All-Ireland SFC Final 2019.- Dublin V Kerry - Read Mod Note in Post #1

jimmytwotimes 2013

D'Agger wrote: »

Agreed - Lyne coughed up posession looking for a free, I don't know what his club form has been like of late but he must be doing something in training that PK put him in ahead of Shane

It was a free tho

Crash Bang Wall

Deleted User wrote: »

Have to disagree with the other Dubs here, I thought the ref did okay. There were probably more questionable decisions that went against Dublin but the vast majority of the ones which didn't were way more important / in crucial areas of the pitch.

Cooper is an eejit for getting sent off. Nobody to blame but himself. Second yellow for the Kerry lad would have been harsh. Haven't seen a replay of Connolly fouling Lyne but at the time I thought the "no foul, Dublin line ball" call was correct.

Bottom line: Dublin played as badly as I've seen in maybe 4 years. Decision making, shot selection, marking, tracking runners..... All well below par. Kerry team didn't exactly light the place up but, relatively speaking, an above average performance. I was chuffed we managed a draw, relief was pouring off me. Genuinely can't see a repeat of that poor showing n the replay.

I actually dont think the ref done all that well to be honest. The pen should have been retaken, O Sullivan got a yellow for a tackle that Cooper only got a tick for.....I though both of Smalls (tick and yellow) were both yellows. O Brien in the second half was denied a stone wall 21 yard free straight in front of the hill, while in the first half, he gives a free, when Con was surrounded but not fouled. Add to that O Sullivans tick was actually a yellow card offence for me.

Also, the turnovers at the end, there was at least 2 fouls in there that he missed....thats not the issue for me, as I wouldnt expect Gough to give those, but based on the frees he was giving earlier, a) he should have given them, and b) as a ref you have to be consistent.....and I felt he wasnt

harpsman

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I remember there was rumours that Paidi could pick him for the footballers.
Vinnie said it was never going to happen.
My auld fella taught in Vinnie's former secondary school, and said as a young lad Vinnie was a way better hurler than footballer.

Is there any Dublin footballer who isn't a better hurler than footballer? Imagine how many all irelands Dublin would have if they could get their best hurlers to play(hurling)

Poor_old_gill

harpsman wrote: »

Is there any Dublin footballer who isn't a better hurler than footballer? Imagine how many all irelands Dublin would have if they could get their best hurlers to play(hurling)

I wouldnt say Michael Darragh has the finesse to play the game but I could be wrong

ArielAtom

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I wouldnt say Michael Darragh has the finesse to play the game but I could be wrong

You're correct of course, he's a far better baller, international actually!!!!

Bonniedog

harpsman wrote: »

Is there any Dublin footballer who isn't a better hurler than footballer? Imagine how many all irelands Dublin would have if they could get their best hurlers to play(hurling)

There are players on the Dublin panel who have never played hurling at any sort of serious level. O'Callaghan and Connolly are the only genuine dual stars and it will be interesting to see if Connolly plays with Vincents this year as he got little game time last year.

They are both lads who would most likely excel at any team/ball sport they turned their hand to. A pretty rare phenomenon now in any county.

gormdubhgorm

harpsman wrote: »

Is there any Dublin footballer who isn't a better hurler than footballer? Imagine how many all irelands Dublin would have if they could get their best hurlers to play(hurling)

Yeah Costello, Killkenny, Con O'Callaghan - it is the great 'what if' of Dublin GAA.

Plus Shane Ryan/Dotsie O'Callaghan only went back to the hurlers when they were surplus to requirements for the footballers

davegilly

davegilly wrote: »

When Kerry played Mayo in the league final I left Croker that day depressed. Kerry were destroyed that day, men against boys and I resigned myself to another year without an All Ireland.

However a week later I popped into Paddy Power and put €100 at 6/1 that Kerry would win the All Ireland. Why? Well thinking about the league final, that Kerry team that played Mayo were essentially kids. Kids that had managed to get to the final the first year of asking. They would learn loads from the game, being bullied by Mayo would stand to them and if they improved a little more then there was a chance, small and all as it was that they would go well over the summer.

And improve they have. Every game so far this year they have improved. Kept an improving Cork at bay. Thrashed Mayo. Didn't panic against Donegal to not lose. Came from 4 down to beat Tyrone by 3. With possibly more improvement to come?

Dublin are definitely on the way down, there is no doubt about that. I know they have hammered everyone this year again but it's taken longer each game to kill off teams. There are lots of things that weren't present also previously such as, not making a league final, being beaten a few times in the league, Cork and Meath walking through their defence, Mayo turning them over at ease (first half obviously ðŸ˜) and Connolly coming back.

All of this gives Kerry a chance on Sunday of turning over Dublin. Have Kerry progressed enough and Dublin regressed enough for this to happen? Who knows. I'm going to Croker more in hope than expectation. This Dublin team are in all likelihood either one of or the best team of all time. Kerry will need the performance of a lifetime to beat them. Kerry have scope for massive improvement which makes the odds of 1/6 for Dublin ridiculous in my opinion. It's probably a 65/35 game in Dublins favour which is a small enough gap to give Kerry hope.

My one fear is that I'm wrong about Dublin on the way down and they end up hammering Kerry. We'll know by 5pm on Sunday one way or another!

Well my one fear didn't materialise anyway!! And Kerry have scope for even more improvement!!!!!

On a side note - I just presumed my bet was finished as the game ended up a draw. However a friend of mine told me that the bet was in all likelihood still valid as I picked AI Winner and not game winner. Anyway, I checked and he was right BUT what I did notice was the odds. I didn't back them at 6/1 but 4/1. In MAY. They were 5/1 for the actual match itself. There must have been some amount of money on the Dubs for PP to price up like this.

Roll on Saturday week!

harpsman

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Yeah Costello, Killkenny, Con O'Callaghan - it is the great 'what if' of Dublin GAA.

Plus Shane Ryan/Dotsie O'Callaghan only went back to the hurlers when they were surplus to requirements for the footballers

I think one of the Cuala forwards was a sub with the footballers earlier in the year-is that right?

I was told in the past that Bernard Brogan was a great hurler as well, by a plunketts man

Joekers

harpsman wrote: »

I think one of the Cuala forwards was a sub with the footballers earlier in the year-is that right?

I was told in the past that Bernard Brogan was a great hurler as well, by a plunketts man

Mark Schutte ?

Bonniedog

Anyone see the Kerry Maor Úisce throw water over McMenamen near the end as he mad run along the line?

It's about three minutes into added time.

davegilly

Bonniedog wrote: »

Anyone see the Kerry Maor Úisce throw water over McMenamen near the end as he mad run along the line?

It's about three minutes into added time.

Tramp.

He didn't throw water. He squirted the water bottle at him and missed. Not one of his better ideas to be fair but I would imagine it was a spur of the moment thing.

Bonniedog

Doesn't matter whether it was spur of the moment or not. Nor if he missed, if he did. He was interfering with play.

davegilly

Bonniedog wrote: »

Anyone see the Kerry Maor Úisce throw water over McMenamen near the end as he mad run along the line?

It's about three minutes into added time.

Tramp.

He didn't throw water. He squirted the water bottle at him and missed. Not one of his better ideas to be fair but I would imagine it was a spur of the moment thing.

munster87

Hopefully Kevin Mc is OK and doesn’t rule him out of the replay

Seadin

munster87 wrote: »

Hopefully Kevin Mc is OK and doesn’t rule him out of the replay

At least it didnt give him the runs anyway

ddub11

Anyone know why the prematch parade did not go down the hill end?

The_Kew_Tour

munster87 wrote: »

Hopefully Kevin Mc is OK and doesn’t rule him out of the replay

Let's be Frank, if it was other way around Kerry fans would have had a petition up on facebook faster then you can say David Gough

liosnagceann75

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Let's be Frank, if it was other way around Kerry fans would have had a petition up on facebook faster then you can say David Gough

Yerra I don't know what all the fuss is about. Sure he was only trying to cool him down

Bonniedog

It's all great gas when its someone else at the other end of the shennagains.

Fair play, only Kerry people thought Keneally boasting about taking out Nicholas Murphy was a bit of crack.

So what will the old Maor Uisce do the next time if he gets carried away - trip him up maybe?

corny

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Let's be Frank, if it was other way around Kerry fans would have had a petition up on facebook faster then you can say David Gough

Not so much Kerry fans but you could imagine the national media would launch a campaign alright. Probably end in a ban for the Dublin person.

They went bananas when Kennedy interfered at Nowlan Park earlier this year. Even though the ref had his back to play and there was no way Reids free was ever going to be allowed to be taken quickly.

Kev Mc got his own back acting the maggot with the keeper anyway. They all play the same when it comes to this stuff.

munster87

John Toal, now there was an effective maor uisce.

aodomhnaill

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Let's be Frank, if it was other way around Kerry fans would have had a petition up on facebook faster then you can say David Gough

Had my post deleted suggesting the same. very hard to say anything contrary to Dublin football abuse.

technocrat

Bonniedog wrote: »

It's all great gas when its someone else at the other end of the shennagains.

Fair play, only Kerry people thought Keneally boasting about taking out Nicholas Murphy was a bit of crack.

So what will the old Maor Uisce do the next time if he gets carried away - trip him up maybe?

3 days later and your still whinging about not getting the handy win most Dublin fans expected.

Your team underperformed and it’s all the refs fault and now the maor uisce for near attempted assault with water on Kevin Mc. Just laughable!!!

Bonniedog

Not whinging. I was delighted with the way Dublin pulled the game out of the fire, dominated the last ten minutes and had chances to win. Most heroic performance since 1983,

I am merely correcting the record as the new campaign ramps up. Only saw the Kevin Mac incident today watching it again.

liosnagceann75

Bonniedog wrote: »

Not whinging. I was delighted with the way Dublin pulled the game out of the fire, dominated the last ten minutes and had chances to win. Most heroic performance since 1983,

I am merely correcting the record as the new campaign ramps up. Only saw the Kevin Mac incident today watching it again.

Fair play for merely correcting the record.

99problems1

Bonniedog wrote: »

Anyone see the Kerry Maor Úisce throw water over McMenamen near the end as he mad run along the line?

It's about three minutes into added time.

Yes, should have been a free out.

Bonniedog

99problems1 wrote: »

Yes, should have been a free out.

Technically he should be banned from the sideline.

But DCB will not be prompting former Dublin players to turn this into a media circus

Look, it could happen to a Bishop. Uncle of mine who was managing a minor team once hooked an opposition player on a solo run up the sideline in a county final

Edgware

Kerry had the game to win but hadnt the confidence to go for it. The replay will be won in the players heads not on the pitch

D'Agger

Edgware wrote: »

Kerry had the game to win but hadnt the confidence to go for it. The replay will be won in the players heads not on the pitch

That's gas because I won a load of county finals in my head and yet I've fúck all county medals in my pocket.

Edgware

D'Agger wrote: »

That's gas because I won a load of county finals in my head and yet I've fúck all county medals in my pocket.

They dont give them to the lads selling the choc ices