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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

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    #3392
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    SJW Lover wrote: »
    Sorry, if you are attending the UN and speaking about major global issues then people can comment. And, if they disagree with what she is saying, they can say that too. Of course, your reaction above is exactly why this child is being utilised in this way.

    Commentary is fine. But that takes a bit of brain power.

    Hurling abusive nonsense at a 16 year old kid because she pulled some stunt to raise a conversation about a topic she cares about is just people being twats.

    If this tread is anything to go by, what passes for "commentary" these days leaves a lot to be desired.


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    #3393
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Scientists don't have actual solutions either, just broad brush strokes on a picture that may or may not be complete.

    More complete if gets implemented.


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    #3394
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Tell me how wrote: »
    RollieFingers wrote: »
    What should we all have been doing long before now? Make speeches to the UN? Doubt they would have given many individuals such a platform.

    And what changes do people need to make on a personal level to stop future generations "suffering"? People always seem to preach the need for change but don't expand on what they want us to do.

    God yeah, if only they had said something like 'Listen to the scientists', 'do whatever needs to be done to keep the global temperature rise as low as possible'.....

    What would scientists like people to do on an individual level? Clearly more needs to be done on government and big business levels, just curious as to what I need to do to stop future generations suffering?


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    #3395
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tell me how wrote: »
    She is saying 'listen to the scientists' Gozunda. You told yourself have been told this directly at least 10 times on this thread alone at this stage. She offered no statement at the US congress other than to submit the IPCC report from Oct 2018, she referenced that same report in her talk at the UN yesterday. Why are you ignoring this fact?

    I've "told myself" - have I?

    And yet she is evidently not listening to the scientists. What gives?

    To paraphrase - You yourself have been told this directly at least 10 times on this thread alone at this stage. With quoted examples. And you keep ignoring that she is repeating this type of rubbish ad nauseam in her videos and speeches which at best is hogwash based on fear and scare. She also told the gathering at the UN - that they have stolen her childhood - hardly a basis for a rational scientific argument is it?

    Why are you ignoring these facts and have unrealistically placed this teenager on a pedestal of your own making?


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    #3396
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Commentary is fine. But that takes a bit of brain power.

    Hurling abusive nonsense at a 16 year old kid because she pulled some stunt to raise a conversation about a topic she cares about is just people being twats.

    If this tread is anything to go by, what passes for "commentary" these days leaves a lot to be desired.

    you see when people come out with this tripe it instantly lets me know that they are not exactly intelligent.

    brainwashed.

    this so-called child is a puppet being used by adults on the world stage so that nobody will feel OK about challenging her outbursts.

    i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child.
    she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...


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    #3397
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    US2 wrote: »
    This tweet sums it up really.

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1176435614050394112?s=19

    A bit of traffic to his sites to supplement his vitamin pill business.


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    #3398
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    YFlyer wrote: »
    More complete if gets implemented.
    What gets implemented?


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    #3399
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Wrong name, or wrong quote, or something.

    Jibberish mainly.

    You responded to my retort to faugheens remark that Greta was doing this off her own bat.


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    #3400
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 18,079 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Right wing mouthpiece Fox news has just apologised after one of it's guests called Greta a "mentally ill Swedish child". They apologised for the "disgraceful" remark and say they have no plans to book him again in future

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/24/fox-news-greta-thunberg-michael-knowles


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    #3401
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    dont bother wrote: »
    i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child.
    she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...
    Are you serious? You're going on about her being a woman in her 40's in a couple of threads, here...

    I hope that's meant to be some kind of parody/joke - as it genuinely comes off as being mentally unhinged.


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    #3402
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Can you point to one individual in history, across the human race who did absolutely everything on their own.
    You're implication that her sailing on someone elses yacht to NY invalidates her argument is nonsense. What do you think she should have done, swam there? Or cut down a tree, hollowed out the trunk and made a canoe and rowed there?

    A simple Video connection? No need to reinvent the wheel is there now ...


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    #3403
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RollieFingers wrote: »
    What would scientists like people to do on an individual level? Clearly more needs to be done on government and big business levels, just curious as to what I need to do to stop future generations suffering?
    It's one of those hard questions that stops conversations on this topic, largely because people have not thought that far nor even considered it. We do have a plan, flawed as it may be, but it has targets and apparently ways to achieve them. A little more of that all round would make for eminently more sensible discussions.


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    #3404
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Right wing mouthpiece Fox news has just apologised after one of it's guests called Greta a "mentally ill Swedish child". They apologised for the "disgraceful" remark and say they have no plans to book him again in future

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/24/fox-news-greta-thunberg-michael-knowles

    She is a swedish child with a mental illness?


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    #3405
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,747 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    gozunda wrote: »
    A simple Video connection? No need to reinvent the wheel is there now ...

    Why did Leo or Johnson, or Merkel travel over so?


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    #3406
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    dont bother wrote: »
    you see when people come out with this tripe it instantly lets me know that they are not exactly intelligent.

    brainwashed.

    this so-called child is a puppet being used by adults on the world stage so that nobody will feel OK about challenging her outbursts.

    i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child.
    she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...

    :rolleyes:


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    #3407
    optogirl
    Registered Users Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭optogirl


    US2 wrote: »
    She is a swedish child with a mental illness?

    ASD is not classified as mental illness. It is a developmental disorder.


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    #3408
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,747 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    US2 wrote: »
    This tweet sums it up really.

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1176435614050394112?s=19

    The 5 countries they targeted are those who have ratified the UN charter on the rights of the child. China, amongst others, has not, so they were excluded.


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    #3409
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I'd say the 4M people who marched last week are indicative as to how many around the world feel about the problem.
    A whole lot were kids and while it was great that they did, marches really don't have much effect on anything.


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    #3410
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,602 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    dont bother wrote: »
    you see when people come out with this tripe it instantly lets me know that they are not exactly intelligent.

    brainwashed.

    this so-called child is a puppet being used by adults on the world stage so that nobody will feel OK about challenging her outbursts.

    i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child.
    she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...

    Jaysus so this is where they are dwelling these days.


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    #3411
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    gozunda wrote: »
    A simple Video connection? No need to reinvent the wheel is there now ...

    I work remote a lot.. but for important meetings where possible I like to be in the room. So many connection issues / its just not the same imo.

    Maybe she feels the same.


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    #3412
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    is_that_so wrote: »
    What gets implemented?

    Cut back on fossil fuels and use alternatives. No till or low till cultivation be two steps.


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    #3413
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    US2 wrote: »
    This tweet sums it up really.

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1176435614050394112?s=19

    Some info on her twitter regarding this..

    Not my area so might be worth you following her.

    https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1176525238206640136?s=19


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    #3414
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 18,079 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    US2 wrote: »
    She is a swedish child with a mental illness?

    Here's what he said: “If it were about science it would be led by scientists rather than by politicians and a mentally ill Swedish child who is being exploited by her parents and by the international left,”

    The far right are very misunderstood in this case, they genuinely care about the parenting of this child, her clear mental disability and her exploitation by the far left. Oh yes and something about the climate. But the real issue is this girl, this annoying mentally ill Swedish girl


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    #3415
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Why did Leo or Johnson, or Merkel travel over so?

    Did they "swim there? Or cut down a tree, hollowed out the trunk and made a canoe and rowed there? " as was in the post I was replying to or see you just ignoring that bit?

    But you say they sailed in a millionaires yacht as well? Must have been cosy ... I never knew .... ;)


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    #3416
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    I work remote a lot.. but for important meetings where possible I like to be in the room. So many connection issues / its just not the same imo.
    Maybe she feels the same.

    That was in response to the previous posters wail of "what was she supposed to do"

    Btw she is not in employment or work. She was invited as a guest. So no she is not an official or governmental attendee. She didn't want to fly? Fine. Use a video link. Simple. The whole circus wouldnt have attracted so much attention - but maybe that's what some wanted ...


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    #3417
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    gozunda wrote: »
    That was in response to the previous posters wail of "what was she supposed to do"

    Btw she is not in employment or work.

    Even for meetings outside of work I like to be in the room if possible. Personal thing though. No right or wrong.

    The UN climate summit, personally I'd probably try to be in the room. YMMV.

    Think wailing on about how she got there is becoming tiring at this stage ;)


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    #3418
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Tell me how wrote: »
    Can you point to one individual in history, across the human race who did absolutely everything on their own.
    You're implication that her sailing on someone elses yacht to NY invalidates her argument is nonsense.

    What do you think she should have done, swam there? Or cut down a tree, hollowed out the trunk and made a canoe and rowed there?

    Faugheen one minute you are saying that she has done all this “off her own bat”. Next minute you are contradicting yourself. Can you make up your mind?
    Unless you’re accusing me of sock puppetting then you have your wires crossed their chief.


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    #3419
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Even for meetings outside of work I like to be in the room if possible. Personal thing though. No right or wrong. The UN climate summit, personally I'd probably try to be in the room. YMMV.

    Use video conferencing regularly and its absolutely fine. Quicker and more economical than flying or taking a sailboat with a full crew half way around the world. Obviously my PR agent doesn't think so ...


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    #3420
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    dont bother wrote: »
    Tony EH wrote: »
    Commentary is fine. But that takes a bit of brain power.

    Hurling abusive nonsense at a 16 year old kid because she pulled some stunt to raise a conversation about a topic she cares about is just people being twats.

    If this tread is anything to go by, what passes for "commentary" these days leaves a lot to be desired.

    you see when people come out with this tripe it instantly lets me know that they are not exactly intelligent.

    brainwashed.

    this so-called child is a puppet being used by adults on the world stage so that nobody will feel OK about challenging her outbursts.

    i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child.
    she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...

    Sounds like you’re the brainwashed one.

    Absolutely laughable stuff here from someone who refuses to accept what’s in front of them and gets offended by a teenager telling it like it is.


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    #3421
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    gozunda wrote: »
    Use video conferencing regularly and its absolutely fine. Quicker and more economical than flying or taking a sailboat with a full crew half way around the world. Obviously my PR agent doesn't think so ...

    I guess they don't. Maybe someday they will.


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