Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Tell me how

SJW Lover wrote: »

What does Fox News have to do with you insulting me?

Didn't insult you. I expressed an opinion on your ability to understand the topic.

I'm sorry if you felt insulted by that.

YFlyer

SJW Lover wrote: »

She's talking crap. Engaging in soundbites

Have you listened to Trumps campaign speeches?

1800_Ladladlad

Tell me how wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1176284552387538949

Fox News issued an apology afterwards for the behaviour of the guest in suggesting Greta was mentally ill.

I hope a lot of the people here take note of that, even the ultra conservative Fox News doesn't have time for that nonsense argument.

https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1176296138212724736

hetuzozaho

SJW Lover wrote: »

Eh, no..

Eh yes.

Its OK not to know why she didn't. You know now.
We are all learning every day, nothing to be ashamed of.

SJW Lover

Tell me how wrote: »

Didn't insult you. I expressed an opinion on your ability to understand the topic.

I'm sorry if you felt insulted by that.

Crikey you're a fool.

whisky_galore

Tell me how wrote: »

David Attenborough isn't going to have to live with the consequences, it really is more pertinent for Greta to be getting aggrieved at this.

Doesn't mean he doesn't care. He has a lifetime of experience and well respected. I'd prefer someone with a reasoned approach rather than scowls and a hissy fit.

SJW Lover

YFlyer wrote: »

Have you listened to Trumps campaign speeches?

Yes.

SJW Lover

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Eh yes.

Eh, no.

SJW Lover

whisky_galore wrote: »

Doesn't mean he doesn't care. He has a lifetime of experience and well respected. I'd prefer someone with a reasoned approach rather than scowls and a hissy fit.

Plus he's someone who has some expertise in this field or at least in related fields. What are Greta's qualifications in this area? Any published papers i can have a look at?

YFlyer

SJW Lover wrote: »

Yes.

He's talking crap. Engaging in soundbites

gormdubhgorm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Do you really think a speech like she made yesterday is going to change anyones mind?

It might have gone down a treat with the lads in the room yesterday but it's not them she needs to convince, it's ordinary people around the world that she needs to get on board.

And all they saw yesterday was a kid nearly having a temper tantrum and talking rubbish.

Exactly she seems to be mostly preaching to the choir - climate change events etc.
Sure they are going to lap it up. It is like a politician at thier own Árd Fheis.


It is other people's mind she has to change and she is not going to convince people by going into hysterical rants.
Granted, she might feel good doing it.
But the average fella like me will eventually tune out.

I only heard of the girl in the last few weeks or so because of boards.
Who? Then looked it up.
Never took any notice.
Then I heard a bit on the radio this morning and it sounded really silly. Really OTT actor's at the oscars type stuff.
If I hear her now on the radio it will be off switch no thanks.

And before anyone says oh 'it is because she is a young girl' and all this type of jazz.
Not true, once I hear 'Bono and Africa' mentioned in a sentence - my reaction is I am not listening to that fecking eejit talk about Africa. And change the channel. Same reaction now when I words 'Thunberg and Climate' together in a sentence.
I will know better in future.
Why would you want to listen to someone rant and rave incoherently? And/Or attempt to preech about something they are not an expert in?
You could go to the pub to hear that and at least you would get a drink.

randd1

SJW Lover wrote: »

Eh, no. The point remains. Not going after India or China means her crusade is entirely pointless. Your heart strings were plucked by this kid. Manipulated. Mission accomplished.

The US too. Or practically the whole of Europe.

She's a sweet kid with a wish for the world to be better, and is willing to do what she can to make it happen. Good for her, more power to her, and fair play to her for having the guts that many adults wouldn't show.

But it would be exceptionally naïve in the extreme to not cop on that there's people behind her pushing an agenda, even if in it's ideal is for the greater good.

The problem isn't with Greta, it's with those behind her. The want us to stop harming the planet, they want us to reverse the damage. Decent goals it has to be said.

But how?

Everyone turn vegan? Never going to happen, we're an omnivorous species after all, and most of us tend to have little food.
Use renewable resources? The wind farms that churn out millions of tonnes of emissions in their productions? The dams that raise the salt levels in rivers killing the eco-systems in them? Other form of renewable energy, all of whom have to be backed up by coal/gas in case the conditions aren't right? They do untold damage in themselves.

There's no plan in place to tackle mans influence on the climate or eco-system. Reduce emissions, input carbon taxes, these measures do nothing.

And even if we somehow came up with the technologies or thinking or way of life that helped managed mans input, do we ignore the role nature is playing in climate change, a role far more significant than man could ever play?

All we're getting are speeches on what we've done wrong. When are the prophets of doom who are demanding action going to give us solutions?

Until then the likes of Greta, for all her good work, it simply means their crusade, ultimately, is pointless.

SJW Lover

YFlyer wrote: »

He's talking crap. Engaging in soundbites

So that means Greta is right? Great logic.

YFlyer

SJW Lover wrote: »

Plus he's someone who has some expertise in this field or at least in related fields. What are Greta's qualifications in this area? Any published papers i can have a look at?

Does Attenborough have peer review published papers?

hetuzozaho

SJW Lover wrote: »

Eh, no.

Eh.. Haha.

Good luck with the complaining buddy.

YFlyer

SJW Lover wrote: »

So that means Greta is right? Great logic.

Does it meant he is right?

SJW Lover

YFlyer wrote: »

Does Attenborough have peer review published papers?

Attenborough is a conservationist and a patron of the World Land Trust which raises funds to save rain forests etc. Hence my referring to his being involved in related fields. You should have a try at google. It's a great website.

SJW Lover

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Eh.. Haha.

Good luck with the complaining buddy.

Haha from someone who isnt laughing is just sad. Good luck with hanging on the words of a manipulated kid. You fool.

SJW Lover

YFlyer wrote: »

Does it meant he is right?

Who meant what?

hetuzozaho

SJW Lover wrote: »

You fool.

That's not very nice. This is all getting to you clearly so I'll let it slide

SJW Lover

hetuzozaho wrote: »

That's not very nice. This is all getting to you clearly so I'll let it slide

You do that run along now. There will be a new fad coming soon

hetuzozaho

SJW Lover wrote: »

You do that run along now.

I'll keep posting. I'm interested in it. Learning new things.

You are obviously not.

YFlyer

SJW Lover wrote: »

Attenborough is a conservationist and a patron of the World Land Trust which raises funds to save rain forests etc. Hence my referring to his being involved in related fields. You should have a try at google. It's a great website.

Science doesn't depend on personality. Greta said listen to the scientist.

YFlyer

SJW Lover wrote: »

Who meant what?

Eh Trump.

Tell me how

SJW Lover wrote: »

Plus he's someone who has some expertise in this field or at least in related fields. What are Greta's qualifications in this area? Any published papers i can have a look at?

Yes. The IPCC report from 8th October, 2018.
Knock yourself out.

That is what she is using to justify her views after all.

hetuzozaho

Tell me how wrote: »

Yes. The IPCC report from 8th October, 2018.
Knock yourself out.

That is what she is using to justify her views after all.

Was new to me till lately, makes for some interesting reading.

weldoninhio

KyussB wrote: »

The Green New Deal. Massive and varied Green infrastructure project in the US, with variations of the same GND policy being pushed throughout the western world.

In my view, the GND doesn't go far enough - but it's a start and shows that it is simply not true, that there are no solutions presented.

The solutions like that, just get decryed as 'Communism' by Libertarian/oil-oligarch think-tank puppets (in this very thread, posters are literally citing Exxon Mobil as an authority).

I think I’m beginning to get it. You like the green new deal. Pity it is never going to happen. The likes of AOC will be back to serving coffee once they next US elections take place. Numerous polls have her decimated.

SJW Lover

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I'll keep posting. I'm interested in it. Learning new things.

You are obviously not.

I've learnt you are an easily manipulated person. Let me find a 15 year old to convince you of that

SJW Lover

YFlyer wrote: »

Science doesn't depend on personality. Greta said listen to the scientist.

Why should i listen to Greta?

weldoninhio

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I find it pathetic and laughable how so many seemingly rational thinking adults who should know better are getting so offended over a young girl with more backbone than all of them out together.

Climate Change is real, it’s happening before our eyes and I commend Greta for having the courage to do what we all should have been doing long before now.

After all if we don’t start making changes and taking seriously the threat we pose to our planet it is Greta’s own the generations after her that will suffer.

You commend Greta for stomping her feet bf throwing tantrum after tantrum? Because that is literally all she has done. That and refused to go to school or get a job.