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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

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    #3722
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,523 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    dont bother wrote: »
    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    I think you are being disingenuous by claiming national debt isn’t serviced through taxation.
    It just undermines your credibility.

    you dont have any credibility to begin with though

    Excellent point. Nonetheless it doesn’t alter the fact that national debt is serviced through taxation.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    #3723
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Do you still believe that national debt isn’t serviced by the money raised through taxation?

    Have a look at the link below. Here is a quote.



    “Interest payments in 2017 were €5.8 billion. This was 10.3% of that years tax revenue”.


    https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/parliamentaryBudgetOffice/2018/2018-11-23_general-government-debt-key-issues-to-consider_en.pdf
    You're taking a discussion I was having with another poster - not with you, another poster... - a discussion involving equating all government spending 1:1 with taxes, and me explaining how that is not how it works, and how debts are often rolled over instead of paid through taxation - and are deliberately reducing it into a statement I didn't say.


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    #3724
    galwayllm
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭galwayllm


    She talks like Stevie from Malcolm in the middle...

    Can't take her serious at all(you know, because I'm not a lemming)... I tell you one thing, she give me a good laugh...


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    #3725
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    dont bother wrote: »
    you dont have any credibility to begin with though
    In reference to Greta:
    dont bother wrote: »
    ...
    i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child.
    she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...


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    #3726
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    KyussB wrote: »
    Again proving my point about the 'Communism!' screeching - proving the disingenuousness of the people in this thread stating there are no 'solutions' presented - and then decrying all potential solutions as 'Communism!', even when there is no connection between the views presented, and that.Only Libertarians are so paranoid, that they spout conspiracy theories regarding Communism all the time - you pretty much never get this from anyone in Ireland - and these same posters have been backslapping those, who have been constantly citing climate change denial propaganda from right-wing Libertarian think-tanks, throughout the thread.

    Many posters have pointed out the links to communism / socialism and your pet theory. Not just me. Theres no conspiracy. Dont like that? Tough.

    And thats quite enough of your rabid theories and derailing the thread on greta in the US to talk about your personal vision of utopia. .

    Not only am I pointing out that what you are writing is complete and utter horse manure - you can drop the personal attacks as well. This is from your previous comment...
    KyussB wrote:
    Nobody believes you or others are 'concerned' for her wellbeing, when you're backslapping the same posters using her being mentally ill, as a term of disparagement.

    Yes I am indeed concerned. And whether you believe otherwise is none of your business. However you proving your lies should be - so go ahead and show each and everyone of the posts I allegedly "backslap" (sic) and agree the girl is "mentally ill". Link or get out and stay out.

    Tbh your comments are pure fantasy at best and bear no relation to the topic of the thread . But the next personal attack like the above bull****e gets you reported faster than you can say "Green New Deal" - understand?


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    #3727
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    KyussB wrote: »
    In reference to Greta:

    tell me exactly how this is less credible than the sh!te from greta and her followers?

    The world is going to explode
    the end of the world is coming
    women should be forced to get abortions to stop the world ending


    why is my belief any less credible than the bat-sh!t crazy beliefs of the climate lemmings???

    because you want to try discredit my opinion?

    l0ser


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    #3728
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    The abuse of anyone that questions the motives behind this is bizarre. Climate change denier, greyhead, alt-right, fascist... “it’s an attack on your masculinity” was the best one I’ve heard :pac:

    Are people talking like this in real life? Doubt it.


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    #3729
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Will I Am Not wrote: »
    The abuse of anyone that questions the motives behind this is bizarre. Climate change denier, greyhead, alt-right, fascist... “it’s an attack on your masculinity” was the best one I’ve heard :pac:

    Are people talking like this in real life? Doubt it.

    Its crazy, the same people saying that science is infallible, are the ones that would be in another thread denying xy and xx chromosomes and saying a boy can be a girl if he wants and vice versa.


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    #3730
    KyussB
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    gozunda wrote: »
    Many posters have pointed out the links to communism / socialism and your pet theory. Not just me. Theres no conspiracy. Dont like that? Tough.

    And thats quite enough of your rabid theories and derailing the thread to talk about your personal vision of utopia. .

    Not only am I pointing out that what you are writing is complete and utter horse manure - you can drop the personal attacks as well. This is from your previous comment...



    Yes I am indeed concerned. And whether you believe otherwise is none of your business. However you proving your lies should be - so go ahead and show each and everyone of the posts I allegedly "backslap" (sic) saying the girl is "mentally ill". Link or get out and stay out.

    Tbh your comments are pure fantasy at best and bear no relation to the topic of the thread . But the next personal attack like the above bull****e gets you reported faster than you can say "Green New Deal" - understand?
    This guy thinks Bernie Sanders, AOC, and much of the Green New Deal supporting Democratic Party in the US are Communists, lads.

    This is the level of idiocy deployed to block discussion of solutions.

    Here is this poster - who is so 'concerned' for Greta's wellbeing - backslapping a post labelling Greta as having 'assburgers':
    https://i.imgur.com/rTdQLsd.jpg
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111099385&postcount=1726

    You try to direct what people discuss in the thread, telling people to 'get back on topic' etc. whenever they say anything you disagree with - so go ahead and report this post, it'll land on you.

    I would be very surprised if the report post system has not been abused several times, by you and others, against me - especially when there was the earlier browbeating way back, with a ton of posters piling on with screeching accusations of 'Communism!'.


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    #3731
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,313 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Its crazy, the same people saying that science is infallible, are the ones that would be in another thread denying xy and xx chromosomes and saying a boy can be a girl if he wants and vice versa.

    Why do you assume this? I think all that trans stuff is nonsense, I just don't give it much thought as it doesn't affect me and never will.
    I've also never been to Bali on a yoga retreat. And I don't eat quinoa.


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    #3732
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Why do you assume this? I think all that trans stuff is nonsense, I just don't give it much thought as it doesn't affect me and never will.
    I've also never been to Bali on a yoga retreat. And I don't eat quinoa.

    Probably the same kind of way that anyone that questions a little girl with Aspergers is assumed to be an old, grey, gammon faced, Trump supporting racist


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    #3733
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,313 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Will I Am Not wrote: »
    Probably the same kind of way that anyone that questions a little girl with Aspergers is assumed to be an old, grey, gammon faced, Trump supporting racist

    Well actually weldinho or whatever is pro Trump and he is very vocal on immigration and dole scroungers on these forums too, lol.


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    #3734
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think Greta is sincere and believes what she says, well because she is actually right on the best evidence we have.

    And no, I don't believe "gender is a social construct" or any of that pseudoscientific psychobabble either.

    What worries me is the army of hangers on who are using her message as part of a wider "social justice" or other political ideological message.

    For example we need nuclear and lots of it - the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation have already developed a much cleaner and safer reactor but the same people supporting Greta are dead against it, yet it is one of the only feasible solutions. China was going to start building lots of them but Trump's trade war put an end to that, stopping them giving the Chinese the technology.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a25728221/terrapower-china-bill-gates-trump/


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    #3735
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,313 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/climate-change-severely-damaging-world-s-oceans-un-report-warns-1.4029859

    More lies from scientists in a new UN report


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    #3736
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/climate-change-severely-damaging-world-s-oceans-un-report-warns-1.4029859

    More lies from scientists in a new UN report

    "IPCC predicts" - wonder if they can predict the lotto numbers. :rolleyes:


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    #3737
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,313 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2211366-china-is-on-track-to-meet-its-climate-change-goals-nine-years-early/

    Oh for all you but what about China people, they're doing pretty well, see above. I was watching something about how much money they're putting into solar power the other day, and I believe they'll be world leaders in renewable energy and cleaning up their act as time goes on, because they get sh*t done.

    What is Ireland doing? Opening up boglands to extraction again, great work lads.


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    #3738
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,313 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    "IPCC predicts" - wonder if they can predict the lotto numbers. :rolleyes:

    I suppose you don't watch weather forecasts either? Sure how would those idiot pink haired snowflake scientists be able to predict anything?


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    #3739
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 21,057 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    dont bother wrote: »
    god only knows.
    one thing's for sure - something is definitely OFF with it all.
    it's very cloak and dagger conspiracy theory territory.

    like any famous "stars" - they're all there to push some agenda.
    this creepy fully grown adult posing as a child "greta" is just the face of this climate change nonsense.

    they obviously wanted a "child", and one with a condition such as aspergers say, so that people on the oppositiion would feel less inclined to argue in a manner that they normally would.

    it's ridiculously obvious.

    now you have all the naive ignorant fools following every word of it - why?
    cos they see "celebrities" like leonardo di caprio and rita ora putting gretas image on instagram and telling braindead masses to "get behind it" when in reality, they're told by their handlers to do this, as it pushes the agenda more.

    it's a sick sad world we inhabit, and it wouldnt bother me in the slightest if it exploded in 11 years like all these nutjobs are saying
    what a strange post


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    #3740
    begsbyOnaTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    What is Ireland doing? Opening up boglands to extraction again, great work lads.

    True. We should have some GMIT lads do a study that says we **could** meet our commitments early **if** a bunch of stuff from 2000 to 2016 continues to play out (no reason why really) and if we exclude a bunch of cities/areas from the study because they don't match up with the result headline we wanted.


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    #3741
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    KyussB wrote: »
    This guy thinks Bernie Sanders, AOC, and much of the Green New Deal supporting Democratic Party in the US are Communists, lads.This is the level of idiocy deployed to block discussion of solutions.
    Here is this poster - who is so 'concerned' for Greta's wellbeing - backslapping a post labelling Greta as having 'assburgers':
    https://i.imgur.com/rTdQLsd.jpg
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111099385&postcount=1726
    You try to direct what people discuss in the thread, telling people to 'get back on topic' etc. whenever they say anything you disagree with - so go ahead and report this post, it'll land on you.I would be very surprised if the report post system has not been abused several times, by you and others, against me - especially when there was the earlier browbeating way back, with a ton of posters piling on with screeching accusations of 'Communism!'.

    Again ignoring the fact that it was the UK socialist party who claimed AOC and the US GND supporters as fellow socialists?.
    https://m.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/29174/29-05-2019/the-green-new-deal-we-need-is-socialism[. Do get with what has been posted. And drop the tripe. No one Is listening.

    So you couldnt find the post you claimed where I back slaped supposedly agreeing the girl was "mentally Ill" No? Cant find it? Still making ****e up? Btw here is you infering another poster is "Mentally unhinged" - more personal type abuse from you. Truely pathetic.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111335898&postcount=3401

    But yeah - 'Level of idiocy' is right for sure. You are just so desperate to throw ****e - that's the best you can do lol... The poster you link to was replying to your previously deranged post. They got a tick for pointing out "Where's all the money going to come from, and where's all the electricity going to come from". Again a complete lack of comprehension. I also note he misspelled aspergers but was correct - she is scared by her doomsday beliefs. Btw you do know the child has aspergers yes? That she states same on her Twitter profile and regularly talks about it yes?

    You really are the gift that keeps giving lol. Sure It's all a big conspiracy against you and your pet theory. But with supporters like you the climate is well and truely fuked ...


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    #3742
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2211366-china-is-on-track-to-meet-its-climate-change-goals-nine-years-early/

    Oh for all you but what about China people, they're doing pretty well, see above. I was watching something about how much money they're putting into solar power the other day, and I believe they'll be world leaders in renewable energy and cleaning up their act as time goes on, because they get sh*t done.

    What is Ireland doing? Opening up boglands to extraction again, great work lads.

    A great bunch of lads?


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    #3743
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    A great bunch of lads?

    Yeah they sure are. Not only are they investing heavily in commissioning new coal fired power plants- they are also manufacturing all those solar panels and other green energy consumables using coal power - isnt that just wonderful? And we marvel that they are "world leaders in renewable energy" - they sure are and laughing all the way to the bank with the profits flogging this stuff to the west...

    And if you cant beat that - not only are they continuing to build hundreds of new coal fire power plants - they are providing the hardware and expertise for a whole bunch of other countries in Africa and elsewhere to also build brand new coal fired power plants - at a nice cost of course. But as you said a great bunch of lads.

    Funny that although been a great bunch of lads! though China had the highest emissions of greenhouse gases in the world and climbing whilst their per capita emissions are at or above the EU average.

    Couldnt make it up eh?

    https://www.npr.org/2019/04/29/716347646/why-is-china-placing-a-global-bet-on-coal


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    #3744
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,603 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Veritas Libertas wrote: »
    74d32f3b84933f9d51adc7e4848e6076.jpg

    ...
    Mongfinder General wrote: »
    Saw her speak today for the first time, narky little cow. She reminds me of veruca salt.


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    #3745
    begsbyOnaTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    gozunda wrote: »
    Couldnt make it up eh?

    Well they made up that report that said they're doing great altogether.


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    #3746
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I have read enough to know that climate and atmospheric conditions on Earth are measured over hundreds of thousands and even millions of years.

    Not 12.

    The human race are but a blip in history. The Earth and humans will be here in 12, 100, 1000 years time. Will the Earth be different? Very likely, but barring an asteroid strike the end of mankind is a long, long way away.

    Things will change, maybe millions might die, but the Earth will survive.


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    #3747
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


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    #3748
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    begsbyOnaTrain wrote: »
    Well they made up that report that said they're doing great altogether.

    I dont disagree - they are making a fortune out flogging green energy consumables whilst merrily burning as much coal as possible.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/04/29/716347646/why-is-china-placing-a-global-bet-on-coal


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    #3749
    begsbyOnaTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    gozunda wrote: »
    I dont disagree - they are making a fortune out flogging green energy consumables whilst merrily burning as much coal as possible.

    Whats for sure China ain't about to ratify any climate convention any time soon

    Just wait until Greta tears into them... Then they'll bend the knee... She'll do it. Anyday now...


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    #3750
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    what a strange post

    elaborate please


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    #3751
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Will I Am Not wrote: »
    Probably the same kind of way that anyone that questions a little girl with Aspergers is assumed to be an old, grey, gammon faced, Trump supporting racist

    even if someone is old grey gammon faced and supports trump, that still doesnt make you "right" about anything.

    people only say sh!t like that because they dont think for themselves and just follow the herd opinion,.


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