Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Ash.J.Williams

weldoninhio wrote: »

I've seen many a dipso stand on a street corner and rant nonsensically, same as Greta did at the UN. I'm fairly sure a dipso wouldn't care if s/he was addressing the wall or the UN.

I'm talking about the world stage not a street corner or boards for that matter

Suttree

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Its the scientists using verifiable science that will always make the strongest case.

Not a privileged western teenager telling everyone her childhood has been ruined, before embarking on a tour of North America.

She's not deprived, her childhood was not ruined, so why tell lies?

Unless you've been living in a cave with no access to the news for the last 10 years, you cannot avoid the effects of climate change.

The scientists have been talking for decades and they've been ignored by governments, corporations and an indifferent public.

lleti

Suttree wrote: »

The scientists have been talking for decades and they've been ignored by governments, corporations and an indifferent public.

What does that tell you about society that they have been ignored but people listen to a wealthy kid? Kids being used to manipulate people....and then they talk about Russian propaganda!

ToBeFrank123

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i'm not an expert in Aspergers but is it not possible that a single issue such as the environment could bother a child with that condition, and occupy a lot of head space?

I'm no expert either, but it is possible yes.

Look at some of the teenagers who have come up with inventions to clean up waste in the ocean. This is the kind of people we need, people who come up with ideas and solutions, rather than going on about the problem which we all already know about.

Professor Moriarty

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Trump, Putin and the rest have ignored her. Trump this week is trying to stop California from setting its own emissions limits. Putin said she doesn't understand a complex world.

The really big players have ignored her.

Developing nations like China and India will be the really big polluters this century. When will she head there and make a big deal of it?

You cannot cut back emissions overnight. It takes decades of research and work to do it. Just look at the very slow progress developing affordable electric cars with significant range and even they are not environmentally friendly if you factor in construction.

The EU will make vague commitments, then sign up to the disastrous Mercosur.

Agreed. They will pay lip service to it, as will all governments. If they actually took a stand, they wouldn't be re-elected. At least Greta is trying to call them out on it.

ToBeFrank123

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Of course she does. Even in the quote you keep using about her childhood, she thinks of others. Everyone chops off the end to suit them.

"You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying."


She agrees she is one of the lucky ones. So you agree with her on something

No-one stole her dreams or her childhood.

I'm beginning to suspect someone else wrote or helped her with that speech. Its completely overly dramatic.

I only wish I had her childhood, travelling the world and being celebrated and probably winning a Nobel Prize.

lleti

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

I'm no expert either, but it is possible yes.

Look at some of the teenagers who have come up with inventions to clean up waste in the ocean. This is the kind of people we need, people who come up with ideas and solutions, rather than going on about the problem which we all already know about.

It's clear it's troublesome for her. She visibly breaks down when speaking about trees being cut down.

It's funny she goes "people are dying". Yes Greta, people are dying through wars, conflicts and homelessness every day and there isn't any protests from kids is there?

Ash.J.Williams

lleti wrote: »

It's clear it's troublesome for her. She visibly breaks down when speaking about trees being cut down.

It's funny she goes "people are dying". Yes Greta, people are dying through wars, conflicts and homelessness every day and there isn't any protests from kids is there?

there is actually

Ash.J.Williams

lleti wrote: »

It's clear it's troublesome for her. She visibly breaks down when speaking about trees being cut down.

It's funny she goes "people are dying". Yes Greta, people are dying through wars, conflicts and homelessness every day and there isn't any protests from kids is there?

look before we get into the millions of reason why she is right...here's one...dublin pumps most of it's ****e into the sea ...

gozunda

lleti wrote: »

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Professor Moriarty wrote: »

We do need a 16 year old to champion[ urgent action on climate change in the absence of any other champion.

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Of course she does. Even in the quote you keep using about her childhood, she thinks of others. Everyone chops off the end to suit them.

"You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying."
...

And there are some who will deny she is being treated as a cult figure ....

:rolleyes:

Jimmy Garlic

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

look before we get into the millions of reason why she is right...here's one...dublin pumps most of it's ****e into the sea ...

And most people from Dublin really couldn't care less. Governments love climate change histrionics, they actually encourage it, diverts attention away from real ecological problems on the doorstep, as well as being an excuse to take more of our money.

Ash.J.Williams

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

And most people from Dublin really couldn't care less. Governments love climate change histrionics, they actually encourage it, diverts attention away from real ecological problems on the doorstep, as well as being an excuse to take more of our money.

Wha?

Jimmy Garlic

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Wha?

They took more than enough money off people in Dublin and beyond to more than cover the cost of not pumping **** into the sea.

hetuzozaho

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

I only wish I had her childhood, travelling the world and being celebrated and probably winning a Nobel Prize.

Even with it you may not be celebrated or get a Nobel prize. That's her using her childhood for the better good. Fair play to her.

hetuzozaho

gozunda wrote: »

And there are some who will deny she is being treated as a cult figure ....

:rolleyes:

I did what?

Ash.J.Williams

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

They took more than enough money off people in Dublin and beyond to more than cover the cost of not pumping **** into the sea.

jaysus if only someone would go public and grab the authorities attention and highlight it like greta

Jimmy Garlic

hetuzozaho wrote: »

for the better good

According to who?

Jimmy Garlic

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

jaysus if only someone would go public and grab the authorities attention and highlight it like greta

Greta devotees aren't talking about the $hit dumping in Dublin, they are chanting climate change slogans.

1800_Ladladlad

lleti wrote: »

What does that tell you about society that they have been ignored but people listen to a wealthy kid? Kids being used to manipulate people....and then they talk about Russian propaganda!

They seem to not want to listen to scientists when it comes to this gender crap

hetuzozaho

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

According to who?

The Nobel Prize people. And the 7 Million marching.

lleti

I think tintin should worry more about people stealing her adulthood. She's going to be stuck in childhood forever due to being seen as this child prodigy who saved the planet.

weldoninhio

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I'm talking about the world stage not a street corner or boards for that matter

I know that, did you miss this line??

I'm fairly sure a dipso wouldn't care if s/he was addressing the wall or the UN.

lleti

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Greta devotees aren't talking about the $hit dumping in Dublin, they are chanting climate change slogans.

Not only that, all they're chanting is "climate change has got to go"

About as useful as me saying homelessness has to go.

weldoninhio

hetuzozaho wrote: »

The Nobel Prize people. And the 7 Million marching.

Where were they last Friday? Will they be out tomorrow?? Or was it a one time thing to feel good about themselves??

hetuzozaho

weldoninhio wrote: »

Where were they last Friday? Will they be out tomorrow?? Or was it a one time thing to feel good about themselves??

I thought they were out last Friday?

ToBeFrank123

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

look before we get into the millions of reason why she is right...here's one...dublin pumps most of it's ****e into the sea ...

Wow, if only we properly funded the treatment of water and punished polluters, something like, I dunno, a water charge maybe? (The same water charge rejected by many if not most Irish people. And probably some of the very same people jumping on the Thunberg bandwagon).

Here's a prime example.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/paul-murphy-sets-up-new-political-group-called-rise-1.4035062

A new left-wing group called Rise has been set up by Dublin TD Paul Murphy following his departure from the Socialist Party last week.
Setting out the group’s political objectives in Dublin on Monday, Mr Murphy, and four members of the new group said it would try to build a new socialist movement in Irish society.
The group is aiming to develop a “green new deal” with socialist policies.

Murphy has now jumped on the Green bandwagon, only after opposing water charges to the end. The arch populist.

Everyone is in favour of making changes until they have to pay for it and then you see their real colours.

weldoninhio

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I thought they were out last Friday?

It was Friday week. 20th September. Tumbleweed last Friday.

hetuzozaho

weldoninhio wrote: »

It was Friday week. 20th September. Tumbleweed last Friday.

There were marches last Friday.

https://twitter.com/debdebfish/status/1177396508548747264

hetuzozaho

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Everyone is in favour of making changes until they have to pay for it and then you see their real colours.

That's not true. Some people. Not everyone.

BorneTobyWilde

If Greta looked like this then all the guys who are knocking her would be praising her.
It's a funny olde world, Greta's cause is a noble one, but people are getting personal with her, knocking her, not her cause