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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Vacuum left in our lives by religion lol. So what, all you rural folk are still devout Catholics?

    That's across the board, far less of the rural middle class are cheering on their own demise however. Climate change is a substitute for religion for many who are searching for meaning in their otherwise dull lives, it has many of the components of a religion and even some of the terminology. Dogma, a priest class, slogans, sins, prophets and saints, the works.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,579 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    The solution is lowering our standard of living. We cant continue as is, even if climate change is a hoax like you all say, the way we are living now means the earth will be depleted and polluted beyond repair sooner or later. Why is it so scary to every one that they may have to live with less choice of crap that we consume?


    I don’t think we have to lower our standards at all, just change how we live our lives, it's gonna require monumental investment though, and that's where the problems start, we ve de-powered our democratic institutions and systems so much now, our governments are struggling to do this


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    That's across the board, far less of the rural middle class are cheering on their own demise however. Climate change is a substitute for religion for many who are searching for meaning in their otherwise dull lives, it has many of the components of a religion and even some of the terminology. Dogma, a priest class, slogans, sins, prophets and saints, the works.

    Rural folk who still go to mass despite all the paedo and oppression stuff are less likely to believe science or use common sense regarding how we are treating the earth. Who'd have thunk it. At least this climate change religion isnt based on make believe like yours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    The solution is lowering our standard of living. We cant continue as is, even if climate change is a hoax like you all say, the way we are living now means the earth will be depleted and polluted beyond repair sooner or later. Why is it so scary to every one that they may have to live with less choice of crap that we consume?

    In other words bicycles for us plebeians while planes are reserved only for the rich. Forget about that package holiday to Spain in future it will be hard to get off this rain sodden island in the North Atlantic unless you are a member of the great and good in Irish society.


    If you think I'm joking ex British prime minister May left a poison pill before she exited office.


    Climate change: Big lifestyle changes 'needed to cut emissions'
    Roger Harrabin - BBC environment analyst
    People must use less transport, eat less red meat and buy fewer clothes if the UK is to virtually halt greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, the government's chief environment scientist has warned.

    Prof Sir Ian Boyd said the public had little idea of the scale of the challenge from the so-called Net Zero emissions target.

    source

    Paul Homewood captured this
    Sir Ian Boyd has lifted the lid on the reality of the programme. We will all have to accept big lifestyle changes – travel less, eat less, consume less.

    And forget about cheap imports from Asia, because these simply offshore emissions.

    As Sir Ian points out, this is likely to mean much higher taxes on sinful consumption. Of course, this won’t matter to Elton John and co, who can afford to pay for their indulgences.

    But eventually some form of compulsion or rationing will be necessary, if climate targets are to be met.


    Ditch cars to meet climate change targets, say MPs

    Roger Harrabin - BBC environment analyst
    In its report, the committee said: “In the long-term, widespread personal vehicle ownership does not appear to be compatible with significant decarbonisation.”

    source


    We need our own great leap forward.





    If you think I'm joking there have been several expressions from western leaders and bureaucrats to do just that here is but one example.


    At Toronto fundraiser, Justin Trudeau seemingly admires China's 'basic dictatorship'
    During the event, which itself was widely criticized for sexist and patronizing undertones, an audience member asked Mr. Trudeau which nation’s “administration he most admired.”

    The party leader responded: “There is a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say we need to go green, we need to start, you know, investing in solar. There is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about: having a dictatorship where you can do whatever you wanted, that I find quite interesting.”

    Noting he was on camera, Mr. Trudeau then said: “But Sun News can now report that I prefer China.”

    source

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Rural folk who still go to mass despite all the paedo and oppression stuff are less likely to believe science or use common sense regarding how we are treating the earth. Who'd have thunk it. At least this climate change religion isnt based on make believe like yours.

    You are assuming I'm religious, I'm not, just realistic. I don't need to participate in the rituals of any cult to feel better about myself.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,579 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Conservative newspaper slates 'socialist' movement, boring!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    Rural folk who still go to mass despite all the paedo and oppression stuff are less likely to believe science or use common sense regarding how we are treating the earth. Who'd have thunk it. At least this climate change religion isnt based on make believe like yours.
    Bigoted stuff. Dublin is the filthiest place in Ireland. So you can protest about the climate but can't even put your rubbish in the bin. Maybe clean up your council estate once in a while.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Conservative newspaper slates 'socialist' movement, boring!
    https://twitter.com/alx/status/1174758954125201408

    Your leader in Antifa attire


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Opinions, however, are not facts. Climate change doesn't give a **** about your opinion. Scientists deal in facts. The scientific consensus* is overwhelmingly (97-98%) in favoure of the fact that climate change is man-made.


    Consensus or dogma? These used to be scientific consensus that the earth was flat. Newtons laws were consensus until Einstein came along. Eugenics was scientific consensus for a long time and you will find all the great and good accepted it and it was in practice in some Sweden & Norway up to the 1970s. The first group systematically killed by the Nazis were those deemed mentally unfit. Hitler got his ideas from the American eugenics policies.

    One of the Supreme Court's Worst Decisions Was About Science
    By the 1920s, eugenics was a genuine movement. As author and pediatrician Paul Offit describes in his new book, Pandora's Lab, Hundreds of colleges taught courses on the subject. It appeared in the majority of high school biology textbooks. There were fairs, meetings, and advertisements. The nationwide campaign convinced citizens and legislatures – forty-one states eventually prohibited marriage by those deemed feeble-minded or insane, and a few states even instituted policies of forced sterilization.

    source

    Science is not done by consensus and the 97% figure often touted is nothing more than a marketing ploy.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande



    Ignore Greta, she is an innocent pawn in this and is being endorsed by adults exploiting her to facilitate their business models.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    Ignore Greta, she is an innocent pawn in this and is being endorsed by adults exploiting her to facilitate their business models.
    Exploiting children is what the libtards do best


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Exploiting children is what the libtards do best

    libtards, lol. This is like right wing bingo. Why are you offended that she's wearing an anti-fascism t shirt?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Exploiting children is what the libtards do best

    All politicians across the spectrum do that when it suits them because nobody is going to attack children, it makes your opponent look like monsters.

    Important to note that Greta is a young adult (16 years) being presented as a much younger child. This is quite deliberate image manipulation by the organisation around her.


    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    All politicians across the spectrum do that when it suits them because nobody is going to attack children, it makes your opponent look like monsters.

    Important to note that Greta is a young adult (16 years) being presented as a much younger child. This is quite deliberate image manipulation by the organisation around her.


    Shes nearly 17 but made look about 11 by her handlers. Very deliberate, helps deflect criticism and aide the climate cultists


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,579 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Your leader in Antifa attire

    my leader!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    libtards, lol. This is like right wing bingo. Why are you offended that she's wearing an anti-fascism t shirt?
    You aren't posh enough for the D4 Greens. Run along now, I'm sure if you beg enough you can be Eamon Ryans butler. He might even let you wash his diesel car, or is he electric now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    my leader!

    Say it like you mean it. :p

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    That's across the board, far less of the rural middle class are cheering on their own demise however. Climate change is a substitute for religion for many who are searching for meaning in their otherwise dull lives, it has many of the components of a religion and even some of the terminology. Dogma, a priest class, slogans, sins, prophets and saints, the works.

    Rural folk who still go to mass despite all the paedo and oppression stuff are less likely to believe science or use common sense regarding how we are treating the earth. Who'd have thunk it. At least this climate change religion isnt based on make believe like yours.

    You do realise that the Catholic Church were basically the scientists of their day. They were the 97% who dubbed sceptics as heretics.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    joe40 wrote: »
    NASA, Royal Society of Chemistry, United Nations, countless universities and professors worldwide,(including Irish) all part of a massive global propaganda campaign.
    Sure what would they know.

    They know where their grant money is coming from.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭JMMCapital


    She’s a great little girl bless her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Yeah fair play to her. Crazy turn outs around the world!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    They know where their grant money is coming from.

    Here is an interview with local scientist Ronan Connolly that touches on this subject.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    That report is just a series of projections (they no longer use predictions) in case the temperatures rose by 1.5C. Was there no climate before 1950? why ever did they pick that year as a starting point?

    In medieval times the average temp was 2c higher than nowadays. Wasn’t catastrophic for those people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Really? What evidence is there that this is what they want to happen?

    Evidence now please, not a strawman argument.

    Maybe he did a “projection”. That’s evidence according to most of the Ecos on this thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    1) Shouldn't Greta be in school?
    2) It's amazing how any Irish kids have American accents now and are being encouraged to engage in hyperbole about something they obviously don't know very much about. They're further cementing the foundations of a future of Daily Mail-esque society, where facts mean very little and emotion and hypocrisy will rule. This shouting that it's mass extinction in our lifetime is nonsense. That little double-barrelled-named upstart on the Six-One news yesterday saying he's never seen such weather on Clare Island as he's seeing now (winter storms and a months drought last year; that's typical Irish climate variability, I'm afraid), as if his 15 or whatever years are anything we should go by. No, I prefer to go with real data, which show nothing at all related to the hyperbole he and the other future anarchists are waffling about.

    One kid was asked yesterday what example he's setting and he said "we have trees in our garden, they've been there for years". Yep, long before you were born. So, what's your personal sacrifice again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    A kind of before and after here! Amazing!

    https://twitter.com/jshield/status/1175144937530298369?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    WE LOVE THE LEADER


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    In medieval times the average temp was 2c higher than nowadays. Wasn’t catastrophic for those people.

    In general yes, however, despite this they were only one harvest away from starvation and when that cycle ended in the 14th century the catastrophic outcome was almost an understatement.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



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