Brexit discussion thread X (Please read OP before posting)

Degag

Just have to say John Bercow is an absolute legend!!

Imreoir2

thecretinhop wrote: »

Brussels will be kind to dem. $$$

Are you suggesting that MPs who voted against their own government, knowing that they would face losing their party whip and the threat of deselection at the next GE did so for personal gain? If that is your opinion, I suggest that it is rather ill considered.

declanflynn

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

TimeToShine wrote: »

This is absolutely fantastic TV, this will make an amazing series in 20 years!

And they still won't have left

It's the best british soap opera/comedy ever

bilston

We are about to see a purge of Pro European Tory MPs. The Conservatives as we know them are finished.

4Ad

Shook looking, condescending snob !

L1011

InTheShadows wrote: »

Nope he's walked these clowns right into it. The public aren't sending Corbyn to Brussels. It's over. No deal inevitable.

He has no power to call an election. He has no majority. He is now effectively powerless.

The FTPA won't pass unless there's a No Deal block through; so his only other options are to lose a vote of no confidence and hope they don't get a caretaker Government in; or just hold on for dear hope - including dear hope that the courts don't overturn the proroguing.

A Dub in Glasgo

Leadsom now saying on the BBC that the Tory MPs get another chance tomorrow, whip to remain for the moment

InTheShadows

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

That isn't how it works.

BoJo is going to a general election having failed to do the one thing he promised to do

The British people would be literally mad to elect the lying Tories yet again.

Their fight isn't with labour.
The threat to the Tories is as always in suburban England where they have massive crossover with the Lib Dems
Then there is the Farage Party hoovering up the vital few percent of rural Tories.

If there is an election before Oct 31'st, Jezza will be PM.
And he'll be there on 1/3rd of the vote.

Step away from the keyboard and get some sleep. Corbyn has zero chance of becoming PM.

declanflynn

InTheShadows wrote: »

Limpy wrote: »

Agreed.. I think he Will be the one going to Brussels.

Labour have screwed the remoaners by keeping Corbyn in. If they had replaced him with someone competent when they had the chance they could have overthrown the democratic will of the public.

Tories are finished

thecretinhop

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Are you suggesting that MPs who voted against their own government, knowing that they would face losing their party whip and the threat of deselection at the next GE did so for personal gain? If that is your opinion, I suggest that it is rather ill considered.

nope. not at all. joe duffy Expunged

Leroy42

So what happens if Labour don't vote for a GE? Johnson will have lost 2 votes out of two, will have lost his majority and could well be faced with having to ask for, and accept if provided, an extension to BRexit.

declanflynn

InTheShadows wrote: »

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

That isn't how it works.

BoJo is going to a general election having failed to do the one thing he promised to do

The British people would be literally mad to elect the lying Tories yet again.

Their fight isn't with labour.
The threat to the Tories is as always in suburban England where they have massive crossover with the Lib Dems
Then there is the Farage Party hoovering up the vital few percent of rural Tories.

If there is an election before Oct 31'st, Jezza will be PM.
And he'll be there on 1/3rd of the vote.

Step away from the keyboard and get some sleep. Corbyn has zero chance of becoming PM.

He just whipped depaffell's ass

Popeleo

bilston wrote: »

Including Nicholas Soames. And we all thought Johnson thought he was the modern version of Churchill.

A chancer like Boris kicking Churchill's grandson out of the Tory party. Sums up Brexit, really.

gmisk

Christ Andrea Leadsom is useless

InTheShadows

declanflynn wrote: »

Tories are finished

Dream on pal.

Itssoeasy

Andrea leadsom talking about a deal. What deal are they talking about ?

54and56

Barnier and Co must be quaffing champagne and laughing their heads off tonight as the Tory party tears itself apart.

All they have to do is sit on their hands, hold their position and stay cool.

Kermit.de.frog

Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

Will their stance harden?

Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...

boggerman1

InTheShadows wrote: »

Nope he's walked these clowns right into it. The public aren't sending Corbyn to Brussels. It's over. No deal inevitable.

Ok Brendan O'Neill we get it

devnull

https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1168998820711190530
https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1168998058417373184

List of Rebels on both sides.

bilston

Popeleo wrote: »

A chancer like Boris kicking Churchill's grandson out of the Tory party. Sums up Brexit, really.

It won't be a good look.

Although Leadsom is being interviewed on Sky now and seems to be rowing back on the idea of removing the party whip.

FrancieBrady

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

Will their stance harden?

Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...

It hasn't been yet.
I would expect nothing to happen at EU level until the GE sorts itself out.

declanflynn

InTheShadows wrote: »

declanflynn wrote: »

Tories are finished

Dream on pal.

May starting to look like a strong leader now, depaffell's first test = huge fail

awec

Johnson's legs have been taken from under him. He's a lame duck.

A Prime Minister who has lost his authority straight out the gate. This will have long term ramifications for him, even if the tories do win an eventual election.

BoJack Horseman

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Andrea leadsom talking about a deal. What deal are they talking about ?

The intention is to re-heat the withdrawal agreement for a 4th time on the 21st October.

And it won't pass anyway.

Because Parliament don't want "no deal"
And the same MP's don't want "deal"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ronan|Raven

InTheShadows wrote: »

Labour have screwed the remoaners by keeping Corbyn in. If they had replaced him with someone competent when they had the chance they could have overthrown the democratic will of the public.

I am not so sure the democratic will of a majority of the people who voted for brexit would be overly excited about just crashing out without a deal and all the misery that will bring.

McGiver

ath262 wrote: »

if the alliance holds he will not get 66% to go ahead with election

3/5ths 60% only, some 380

Itssoeasy

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Surprised no one is asking how will the EU respond to no deal being taken off the table?

Will their stance harden?

Remember Boris is in Dublin on Monday...

It hasn't been taken off the table. They voted to have a vote tomorrow. If they vote tomorrow then that will be off the table.

maynooth_rules

gmisk wrote: »

Christ Andrea Leadsom is useless

But she has children, which makes her better

martingriff

There is only 2 ways the Conservatives will not be in government in that election if it happens.

1) Labour and the other parties come together in how to select people for an election so its 1 on 1
2) Or Labour and other parties get together for a coalition and set it out for the election and then have a majority