Brexit discussion thread X (Please read OP before posting)

gmisk

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Jess Philips is cracking up

She is really excellent, extremely passionate

Itssoeasy

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Jess Philips is cracking up

She's not cracking up, but she's probably articulating how a lot of people in Europe and in the UK feel about the whole sorry mess.

A Dub in Glasgo

gmisk wrote: »

She is really excellent, extremely passionate

Yes, I mean it in the emotional way

LeinsterDub

devnull wrote: »

From what I understand he's tabled a motion that requires a simple majority.

He has. Previous parliaments can't bind future ones and acts can repeal previous acts without explicitly doing so. The fixed term parliament act isn't worth the vellum it's written on

VinLieger

Really love Jess Philips, rarely see her passion in the HOC

Dyr

Jess Phillips is some clueless gawm. Product of Labours gender quotas no doubt.

Headshot

sjb25 wrote: »

This lady bit crazy

Far from it.

She is one of the most honest MP's you can ever see

I have so much time for her

Itssoeasy

Bambi wrote: »

Jess Phillips is some clueless gawm. Product of Labours gender quotas no doubt.

Are there gender quotas in the UK ?

Leroy42

Bambi wrote: »

Jess Phillips is some clueless gawm. Product of Labours gender quotas no doubt.

Take away your bias and try to actually listen to what she is saying.

Johnson is doing all this not because of some higher calling, or because he has some big feeling for the citizens. He is doing all this because that was the best road to power, and not holding on to it.

Podge_irl

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Are there gender quotas in the UK ?

For Labour shortlists I think?

Either way, she's bloody amazing. And she is perfectly right with her fundamental point - there is no way you can trust the current government (or indeed the last one). They lie with shocking frequency.

An Ciarraioch

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Are there gender quotas in the UK ?

All-female constituency selection lists, which was a Blair initiative.

alchemist33

VinLieger wrote: »

Really love Jess Philips, rarely see her passion in the HOC

Always good on any panel shows I've seen her on. Genuinely funny

An Ciarraioch

BBC News confirm two-thirds majority required, so the Opposition can go AWOL.

Leroy42

alchemist33 wrote: »

Always good on any panel shows I've seen her on. Genuinely funny

Its funny, she talks like 'normal' people, she tells it like it is and she clearly understands the issues that everyday people face.

But the people to claim to stand for all that seem to hate her.

Tell me how

Leroy42 wrote: »

Its funny, she talks like 'normal' people, she tells it like it is and she clearly understands the issues that everyday people face.

But the people to claim to stand for all that seem to hate her.

That is the crux of why this is so so fascinating.

The Brexiteers talk so much about undemocratic EU and yet are ok with Cummings dictating national policy and parliament being prorogued. They talk about honour and respect and then JRM behaves as he did on the front bench yesterday during the debate.

It's incredibly interesting.

Itssoeasy

Does John Bercow sound utterly feed up calling the name of Caroline Lucas ? It certainly wasn't with the normal energy.

Leroy42

It is really funny that the Tories are telling everyone that the one thing that the country needs, that people really want is an end to the government. I mean they are basically saying that they are incapable of running the country, on the basis that hopefully the people really want them in power to run the country!

On a separate issue, why do MP's allow other MP's to continue this line that Johnson needs to be able to threaten No Deal on the EU as this will force them to give in to avoid the chaos it will bring yet at the same time continually claim that No Deal will have little negative impact on the UK. It makes no sense.

Capt'n Midnight

In a nutshell

If sneaky tricks continue to be used then a GE won't deliver a new government until it's too late to stop a Hard Brexit.

Itssoeasy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Does John Bercow sound utterly feed up calling the name of Caroline Lucas ? It certainly wasn't with the normal energy.

I thought he had been subbed out. Certainly didn't call on her with the same vigour.

Tell me how

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Does John Bercow sound utterly feed up calling the name of Caroline Lucas ? It certainly wasn't with the normal energy.

He's been no more than rudimentary for the last hour.

FrancieBrady

They said a lot of this stuff last night.

And golly gosh, Corbyn has torn Boris assunder. Decimated him.

Kermit.de.frog

What's funny about this is that if the Tories had not decided to prorogue parliament none of this would be happening now!


Surely that's a capital offence for Cummings who should get the boot?

ArmaniJeanss

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

BBC News confirm two-thirds majority required, so the Opposition can go AWOL.

Is there a trap here though.
If it 'wins' but without 2/3rds majority I wonder do they have a plan to take that to Buckingham Palace with something archaic that overrides the FTPA.

Leroy42

Sorry, but Ken Clarke has been beaten in the zinger stakes by Jess.

"I'm meant to believe that the PM is really doing this because he has a vision for the people in the this country? HE has a vision that comes to him every night and it is his own face"

Capt'n Midnight

Tell me how wrote: »

That is the crux of why this is so so fascinating.

The Brexiteers talk so much about undemocratic EU and yet are ok with Cummings dictating national policy and parliament being prorogued. They talk about honour and respect and then JRM behaves as he did on the front bench yesterday during the debate.

It's incredibly interesting.

“The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.”

― Ralph Waldo Emerson


On one hand there is the thing about loudspeakers being low on the benches. But he could have squatted.

But lording it over a 93 year old to prorogue parliament. Has also defied the whip frequently. Scumbag in a suit.

sjb25

Leroy42 wrote: »

Sorry, but Ken Clarke has been beaten in the zinger stakes by Jess.

Zing

JeffKenna

Thinking back to my history lessons... If the house of Lords blocks it what happens?

Sam Russell

Once parliament is prorogued, all bills die. If the old guard Tories can talk it out, it dies.

Leroy42

Although the SNP MP (didn't catch his name) also had a great line.

"If Ruth Davidson cannot stomach the PM, why should Scotland"

That made me laugh