Werewolf - Winter Is Here - Game of Thrones II Game Thread

Necro

I'm gonna ISO beaker during the night if I can

Ectoplasm

Necro wrote: »

Mick wagon is pure I'd imagine.

Caveat is how did they know about trit being Jaime.

Stu possibly a convert? Or just lucked out with a wild claim

Discuss

I thought that earlier...that if evils had managed to convert 2 named in OP they would know for sure Trit was Jaime.

sKeith

Ectoplasm wrote: »

Am assuming the morning will be a straightforward munch?

they have to win prizes to have a munch,


id say after that lynch, they are all prized out.

Guffy

Necro wrote: »

What you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Why would I bus the Night King from day 1.

If you're a villager you've been stupidly tunnelling on me since early on about the prize while I've been... oh, you know - CATCHING THE FOOKING NIGHT KING.

Deserves another smug gif

Sound kill me tomorrow, lynch me.

Every villager i am the convert... lynch me. Shoot me, burn me do not revive me.






Necro you identified mick as nk on day 1, day 0 well done.

You won a prize on day 1 made a silly decision not to use it AND announced it on thread nice and early.

You got converted on day 2 and andy was killed. (Convert the useful prize, kill the dangerous).

You couldn't then turn around and say that mick is a swell guy. So kept going, knowing that you would get brownie village points and wouldn't be left in a corner.

You knew that the converted would survive and that you would have the bonafides. I mean you were the most vociferous on Mick (you had to be you were at him from the start).



I am the converted kill me. Bandwagon it. If by a miracle I turn good. I mean it wont happen but if by some small chance i do... please kill necro before skunk. Don't let him try to say look i said skunk too.

Necro

Guffy wrote: »

Sound kill me tomorrow, lynch me.

Every villager i am the convert... lynch me. Shoot me, burn me do not revive me.






Necro you identified mick as nk on day 1, day 0 well done.

You won a prize on day 1 made a silly decision not to use it AND announced it on thread nice and early.

You got converted on day 2 and andy was killed. (Convert the useful prize, kill the dangerous).

You couldn't then turn around and say that mick is a swell guy. So kept going, knowing that you would get brownie village points and wouldn't be left in a corner.

You knew that the converted would survive and that you would have the bonafides. I mean you were the most vociferous on Mick (you had to be you were at him from the start).



I am the converted kill me. Bandwagon it. If by a miracle I turn good. I mean it wont happen but if by some small chance i do... please kill necro before skunk. Don't let him try to say look i said skunk too.

Nonsense.

Beaker also spews me as not converted day 2. Go on, read back I'm waiting.

Beaker coming out and trying to clear me as Gendry makes no sense.

Lord TSC

Ectoplasm wrote: »

I thought that earlier...that if evils had managed to convert 2 named in OP they would know for sure Trit was Jaime.

At the time, wasn't it a case of Trit and Stu being the only non-outted people, and Jamie and Jon being the only two unclaimed rolls?

I genuinely don't get what Mick's plan was, claiming the peek power without claiming to have earned it. Could have hidden it as a prize he'd won, but deliberately said it was a starting power. Was it a plan, or was Mick just genuinely that disengaged?

In which case, would the wolves have had any real fears busing him, and trying to use him for credibility?

Ectoplasm

sKeith wrote: »

they have to win prizes to have a munch,


id say after that lynch, they are all prized out.

So fighting it out for prizes? Be interesting anyway.

I'm off to bed. Will look back at Trits posts to see if there was any hints they were Jaime anywhere. Otherwise I think that may be clue to converted. Or actually Mick & co could have won a peek?

sKeith

Guffy wrote: »

Sound kill me tomorrow, lynch me.

Every villager i am the convert... lynch me. Shoot me, burn me do not revive me.






Necro you identified mick as nk on day 1, day 0 well done.

You won a prize on day 1 made a silly decision not to use it AND announced it on thread nice and early.

You got converted on day 2 and andy was killed. (Convert the useful prize, kill the dangerous).

You couldn't then turn around and say that mick is a swell guy. So kept going, knowing that you would get brownie village points and wouldn't be left in a corner.

You knew that the converted would survive and that you would have the bonafides. I mean you were the most vociferous on Mick (you had to be you were at him from the start).



I am the converted kill me. Bandwagon it. If by a miracle I turn good. I mean it wont happen but if by some small chance i do... please kill necro before skunk. Don't let him try to say look i said skunk too.

How did micks know who trit was?

sKeith

sKeith wrote: »

How did micks know who trit was?

Thats addressed to you gufffy, if you want me to believe your claim.

Guffy

Necro wrote: »

Nonsense.

Beaker also spews me as not converted day 2. Go on, read back I'm waiting.

Beaker coming out and trying to clear me as Gendry makes no sense.

I pointed that out last night, made no sense. Thought he tried to pocket you but its very convenient post for you to fall back on now isn't it? The badie lied about his role and said i was good.

Necro

Guffy wrote: »

I pointed that out last night, made no sense. Thought he tried to pocket you but its very convenient post for you to fall back on now isn't it? The badie lied about his role and said i was good.

Not really, it's total spew. I'm clearer than anyone in the game I don't even have to explain myself tbh, but if you're actually a villager I'm giving you a MOUNTAIN of evidence to prove that

Necro

beakerjoe wrote: »

Maybe pushed hard is over stating it, but you see what Im saying.

If you are evil, it could be seen as a way to push Trit over Mick.

Keeping a possible NK alive that bit longer.

That said, the more I think about it, would another convert get involved if Trit and Mick are evil ?

Right now I think either Trit and Tusk cant both be evil, its either one or the other..... or neither...... just not both

Tusk spewed clear, not a convert

Guffy

sKeith wrote: »

Thats addressed to you gufffy, if you want me to believe your claim.

Wasnt around today so will have to go back for a read.


But i can tell you, as can anyone left in a house.. i had no idea that trit was jamie. I had no idea of anyone else's roles so there is no way i could have said it if that's what you mean.

My personal preference would be for necro skunk/stu. There were only two roles left so he either took a stab and guessed right or he, identified something in the thread or stu told him his role. My role is cersei so and there were 2 left after i came out so no way i could have guaranteed the role to the player.

Necro

beakerjoe wrote: »

Why would guffy claim that if he knew. Thats a terrible play

Soft defence of Guffy

Necro

Beaker's posts hold the key to this game. I implore people to go over them with a fine tooth comb, he's always been bad so we can find who he's not talking about.

Mick has nothing in his posts bar sKeith talk really, but I will look over them again

Guffy

Necro wrote: »

Not really, it's total spew. I'm clearer than anyone in the game I don't even have to explain myself tbh, but if you're actually a villager I'm giving you a MOUNTAIN of evidence to prove that

Yes you do have a lot of village points. Your saying im nailed on convert. Im offering myself to the village to be lynched. Not going to fight it. When i turn good i suggest killing you personally.


Again...... the nk does not leave that prize on the table.

Guffy

Necro wrote: »

Soft defence of Guffy

Lol... very convenient again for you to find there necro.... gosh its almost like ye planned a trail in the backroom.


KILL ME!!!!!!

Necro

Guffy wrote: »

Yes you do have a lot of village points. Your saying im nailed on convert. Im offering myself to the village to be lynched. Not going to fight it. When i turn good i suggest killing you personally.


Again...... the nk does not leave that prize on the table.

Why would you want me dead if I have a lot of good village points? This is what I don't understand? I'm trying to see you as village here.

We're dominating the game, why would you take me out?

There's absolutely ZERO chance I get lynched this game.

None, zip, zilch.

It's the wrong target

Necro

I think sKeith is clear too, there's a couple of posts from yesterday and today where I can see Beaker trying to softly put doubt in people's minds about his Qyburn claim. Gonna pull them up now

Guffy

Necro wrote: »

Why would you want me dead if I have a lot of good village points? This is what I don't understand? I'm trying to see you as village here.

We're dominating the game, why would you take me out?

There's absolutely ZERO chance I get lynched this game.

None, zip, zilch.

It's the wrong target

Because of your prize and your confidence.


#1 Nk doesn't not convert the prize
#2 your playing your villager points.

sKeith

Guffy wrote: »

Wasnt around today so will have to go back for a read.


But i can tell you, as can anyone left in a house.. i had no idea that trit was jamie. I had no idea of anyone else's roles so there is no way i could have said it if that's what you mean.

My personal preference would be for necro skunk/stu. There were only two roles left so he either took a stab and guessed right or he, identified something in the thread or stu told him his role. My role is cersei so and there were 2 left after i came out so no way i could have guaranteed the role to the player.

did you not talk to each other at all?


you're not making any sense!

Guffy

sKeith wrote: »

did you not talk to each other at all?


you're not making any sense!

We dont have a backroom. There are no backrooms for the houses only the nk. I don't know anyones role

Guffy

Guffy wrote: »

We dont have a backroom. There are no backrooms for the houses only the nk. I don't know anyones role

Like i said, any other house player will confirm this

Necro

Guffy wrote: »

Because of your prize and your confidence.


#1 Nk doesn't not convert the prize
#2 your playing your villager points.

Oh yeah, I'm definitely supremely confident, I'll give you that. Ego has inflated to twice its normal size cos I was bang on about Mick

They didn't convert the prize.

I've no clue why they didn't, but I'm still a villager. Bad move on their part tbh.

sKeith

Guffy wrote: »

Yes you do have a lot of village points. Your saying im nailed on convert. Im offering myself to the village to be lynched. Not going to fight it. When i turn good i suggest killing you personally.


Again...... the nk does not leave that prize on the table.

You said you are the convert, why would you turn good.

Necro

Necro wrote: »

Mick wagon is pure I'd imagine.

Caveat is how did they know about trit being Jaime.

Stu possibly a convert? Or just lucked out with a wild claim

Discuss

Yeah I was one of the first to shine a light on MJ and his dodgy insistence on having a lock on the NK so early. I was also one of the first to vote for him in Day 2's lynch, as well as posting "MJ has to go tomorrow, right?" late last night. I also expressed suspicion about Beaker last night.

Ya got me.

Necro

beakerjoe wrote: »

FFA2

Mick
Guffy
GnR
Trit

Hmmmmm

Does beaker put a convert into the mix here?

Does he ever mention Guffy before or after this?

Necro

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah I was one of the first to shine a light on MJ and his dodgy insistence on having a lock on the NK so early. I was also one of the first to vote for him in Day 2's lynch, as well as posting "MJ has to go tomorrow, right?" late last night. I also expressed suspicion about Beaker last night.

Ya got me.

Ah will you give over it's phrased as a question not an accusation :cool:

I'm going through beaker's posts now to try and see where he's not pointing, wanna give me a hand?

Guffy

sKeith wrote: »

You said you are the convert, why would you turn good.

Because im not wasting the next 24 hours trying to fight postmaster Necro. He's got the villy points and says im 1 of 2 players converted (at the time) and yer going to go with him.

I said kill me so, make the decision easier and tell ye im converted so off with ye. But the the smug git put up his smug gif and twigged me and dragged me back in.

Necro

I'm gonna say tusk is pretty much golden from beaker's early morning discussions today. But someone else have a look and sanity check my work.

This is a big ISO so I'll pull snippets now and try an in-depth one a bit later if I can

Didn't BJ end up voting to lynch me?

Guffy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah I was one of the first to shine a light on MJ and his dodgy insistence on having a lock on the NK so early. I was also one of the first to vote for him in Day 2's lynch, as well as posting "MJ has to go tomorrow, right?" late last night. I also expressed suspicion about Beaker last night.

Ya got me.

Ya necro. By your reasoning for yourself stu is no way a convert say whats good for the goose isnt good for the gander???

Necro

Guffy wrote: »

Because im not wasting the next 24 hours trying to fight postmaster Necro. He's got the villy points and says im 1 of 2 players converted (at the time) and yer going to go with him.

I said kill me so, make the decision easier and tell ye im converted so off with ye. But the the smug git put up his smug gif and twigged me and dragged me back in.

This one

Necro

Necro wrote: »

Ah will you give over it's phrased as a question not an accusation :cool:

I'm going through beaker's posts now to try and see where he's not pointing, wanna give me a hand?

Give over? I'm pointing out that I'm not the convert albeit in a sarcastic manner. Didn't accuse you of throwing cheap shade or anything like that though.

Sure I'll help with Beaker's posts, since you seem to be busy claiming all the credit for getting the NK

Guffy

Necro wrote: »

This one

Man i sooo hope im right and you do actually get got. Or at least i just look like less of an idiot.

Necro

beakerjoe wrote: »

Quigybo..... I mean Qyburn..... interesting

beakerjoe wrote: »

Im very suspicious Qyburn is a character used over others on teh game to say the least

Anyways, smugness aside I'm going back to work.

I think fake-Gendry here is trying to push doubt onto sKeith here.

Given there's been no conversions since this, AND Mick was pushing hard on sKeith since day 0 then I'm gonna say sKeith is pretty much spewed clear

sKeith

Guffy wrote: »

Because im not wasting the next 24 hours trying to fight postmaster Necro. He's got the villy points and says im 1 of 2 players converted (at the time) and yer going to go with him.

I said kill me so, make the decision easier and tell ye im converted so off with ye. But the the smug git put up his smug gif and twigged me and dragged me back in.

Do you, or do you not have access to the room that mick and bj were in?


You said you were the convert.


If you have access to that, you'd know what mick and bj new, therefore you know how mick new trit was jamie.


now, that you can't answer this simple thing, makes me wonder if that will flip green. and if it were to flip green, why the heck would i that the word of villager guufy over my own investigations..


I WOULD NOT.

Necro

Deleted User wrote: »

Give over? I'm pointing out that I'm not the convert albeit in a sarcastic manner. Didn't accuse you of throwing cheap shade or anything like that though.

Sure I'll help with Beaker's posts, since you seem to be busy claiming all the credit for getting the NK

I don't think you're the convert, I was just musing on ways they could know trit's identity.

Having you as a convert is one of them so I wanted to chuck it out there for discussion is all.

sKeith

Deleted User wrote: »

Didn't BJ end up voting to lynch me?

you did the whole 3/4 thing, you can't recall?

Necro

Necro wrote: »

I'm gonna say tusk is pretty much golden from beaker's early morning discussions today. But someone else have a look and sanity check my work.

This is a big ISO so I'll pull snippets now and try an in-depth one a bit later if I can

Can't look just now cause I'm on mobile and my few notes are on laptop, but I noted somewhere around post 1200 that Beaker sort of unnecessarily chimed in for Tusk. Mick had Tusk in a possible list of suspects and mentioned that it was Tusk's birthday on Sunday as a concession, and Beaker replied with something like "In fairness Tusk barely played yesterday".

As it turns out, that was Craster (Beaker) talking to the NK (Mick) about Tusk.

Could it have been them attempting to give their newly recruited Tusk a clean slate in the mind of other players?

Sorry Tusk, not accusing, just sleuthing.

Necro

Gendry was clearly a fake identity given to the OG wolves as Beaker immediately claims it in a post.

Guffy

sKeith wrote: »

Do you, or do you not have access to the room that mick and bj were in?


You said you were the convert.


If you have access to that, you'd know what mick and bj new, therefore you know how mick new trit was jamie.


now, that you can't answer this simple thing, makes me wonder if that will flip green. and if it were to flip green, why the heck would i that the word of villager guufy over my own investigations..


I WOULD NOT.

Lol.

I do not have access to any backroom.

I already said that.

Never even hinted at a backroom mick or bj were in.

Never even hinted at any backroom.

Even if i WAS in a backroom with them, I still COULDN'T say that trit was jamie because i had NO WAY OF KNOWING!!

Necro

Necro wrote: »

Anyways, smugness aside I'm going back to work.

I think fake-Gendry here is trying to push doubt onto sKeith here.

Given there's been no conversions since this, AND Mick was pushing hard on sKeith since day 0 then I'm gonna say sKeith is pretty much spewed clear

Necro wrote: »

Gendry was clearly a fake identity given to the OG wolves as Beaker immediately claims it in a post.

Yep, I posted last night that's what had me suspicious about Beaker along with his early Day 1 vote.

He was immediately shooting down sKeith's claim of Qyburn for reasons that he wasn't a popular enough character to include in the game. But...Gendry???

sKeith

sKeith wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Didn't BJ end up voting to lynch me?

you did the whole 3/4 thing, you can't recall?

The North Recalls.

Guffy

Guffy wrote: »

Lol.

I do not have access to any backroom.

I already said that.

Never even hinted at a backroom mick or bj were in.

Never even hinted at any backroom.

Even if i WAS in a backroom with them, I still COULDN'T say that trit was jamie because i had NO WAY OF KNOWING!!

Ah no ur right i did say i was the convert so obvs that implies backroom.

sKeith

Guffy wrote: »

Lol.

I do not have access to any backroom.

I already said that.

Never even hinted at a backroom mick or bj were in.

Never even hinted at any backroom.

Even if i WAS in a backroom with them, I still COULDN'T say that trit was jamie because i had NO WAY OF KNOWING!!

so, you were converted, but wernt given access to a backroom?

Guffy

Guffy wrote: »

Ah no ur right i did say i was the convert so obvs that implies backroom.

sKeith wrote: »

so, you were converted, but wernt given access to a backroom?

Are yis messing or what's going on here? I'm clearly missing something.

Guffy

sKeith wrote: »

so, you were converted, but wernt given access to a backroom?

Stop playing stupid keith and read the conversation at the time.

Necro was accusing me.

I said grand im the convert everyone kill me. Pointed out why necro was the convert and came back again with when i turn good kill necro.

sKeith

Guffy wrote: »

Sound kill me tomorrow, lynch me.

Every villager i am the convert... lynch me. Shoot me, burn me do not revive me.






Necro you identified mick as nk on day 1, day 0 well done.

You won a prize on day 1 made a silly decision not to use it AND announced it on thread nice and early.

You got converted on day 2 and andy was killed. (Convert the useful prize, kill the dangerous).

You couldn't then turn around and say that mick is a swell guy. So kept going, knowing that you would get brownie village points and wouldn't be left in a corner.

You knew that the converted would survive and that you would have the bonafides. I mean you were the most vociferous on Mick (you had to be you were at him from the start).



I am the converted kill me. Bandwagon it. If by a miracle I turn good. I mean it wont happen but if by some small chance i do... please kill necro before skunk. Don't let him try to say look i said skunk too.

Deleted User wrote: »

Are yis messing or what's going on here? I'm clearly missing something.

this post stu..

Guffy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Are yis messing or what's going on here? I'm clearly missing something.

I honestly dont know where keiths trying to lead me or us he just doing as a wolf what i would to a player tunnelling a goodie and fuel them