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Eric Cartman

excludedbin wrote: »

FF and FG are both centre right, though. I know on this forum that'd make them "extreme far left" but please, for once, just give it up. I know right wingers are all but immune to criticising their own but you can only deny reality for so long before other people get tired of it.

FF and FG are centrist parties with policies leaning one degree either side of the spectrum, they're not right wing at all.

excludedbin

They're both broadly categorised as having conservative ideologies so I honestly don't know what else to say. Just because they're not right wing enough for you doesn't change the fact that they are, broadly, centre right. And they're the two largest parties in the state. Now parties like the National(ist Socialist Workers) Party may be irrelevant but so are any parties that're commensurately left wing. That doesn't change the fact that the far right have been out on the streets of Dublin holding rallies, repeatedly.

I know a lot of people here have a personal investment in ensuring the idea that the far right doesn't 'really' exist takes hold but the rhetoric is getting just a little bit ****ing old hat, now.

McGinniesta

I'd shaft Miley Cyrus.

Mad_maxx

excludedbin wrote: »

FF and FG are both centre right, though. I know on this forum that'd make them "extreme far left" but please, for once, just give it up. I know right wingers are all but immune to criticising their own but you can only deny reality for so long before other people get tired of it.

both parties ( especially FF ) tout increased spending over tax cuts at budget time , both do nothing to tackle union intransigence in the public sector , instead preferring to pension off the more militant long serving staff while creating less favourable conditions for new entrants , their priority is always to keep unions sweet and the public sector onside , all parties in ireland vigorously court the public sector and today even FG court the welfare class ahead of those who work

thats just economics , there is no centre right party in this country comparable to what passes for same in other western countries , none !

Mad_maxx

Eric Cartman wrote: »

FF and FG are centrist parties with policies leaning one degree either side of the spectrum, they're not right wing at all.

michael martin is the most left wing leader FF have ever had , sure dev was very left wing on economics but martin is as left as anyone in labour or the greens both socially and economically

suicide_circus

McGinniesta wrote: »

I'd shaft Miley Cyrus.

You'd shaft Billy Ray Cyrus

Mad_maxx

keano_afc wrote: »

The "far-right" in Ireland is an invention of the media. As elections show, extremism has no support in this country.

its an invention of the NGO "ism" hustler industry , of course the media are very close to them ideologically

excludedbin

excludedbin wrote: »

They're both broadly categorised as having conservative ideologies so I honestly don't know what else to say. Just because they're not right wing enough for you doesn't change the fact that they are, broadly, centre right. And they're the two largest parties in the state. Now parties like the National(ist Socialist Workers) Party may be irrelevant but so are any parties that're commensurately left wing. That doesn't change the fact that the far right have been out on the streets of Dublin holding rallies, repeatedly.

I know a lot of people here have a personal investment in ensuring the idea that the far right doesn't 'really' exist takes hold but the rhetoric is getting just a little bit ****ing old hat, now.

They're both relatively socially conservative (even with that they allowed gay marriage and abortion referenda), economically they both support a welfare state and the provision of healthcare, generous unemployment payments (relative to other countries) etc etc they just aren't very right wing at all when you compare them with the right wing parties in the UK, US, Australia, France and elsewhere

Dunno what you're on about saying the far right doesn't really exist, but it's quite a stretch to suggest it has any substantive presence in Ireland - the most prominent of that ilk i.e. Gemma O'Doherty are widely ridiculed and derided as eejits (as they should be), their gatherings are disorganised and fairly small.

What are some examples that the far right are tightening their grip on Ireland if it's as real an issue as you suggest? Just seems to be a bit of an ethereal bogeyman to me honestly. They really are a total non-entity here when it comes to electoral politics.

kowloonkev

Antares35 wrote: »

In my opinion, it is very unfair that child benefit is 140 per month for one child, 280 per month for 2 children but if you have twins it's 420. I can understand how having twins would be a bigger cost outlay for say, the first year, but after this it's pretty much the same cost wise whether you've two the same age or two that are say 14 months apart. Over 18 years, someone with twins will get an awful lot more than someone with Irish twins

Maybe it's like a rebate for IVF.

McGinniesta

suicide_circus wrote: »

You'd shaft Billy Ray Cyrus

Right in his achey breaky heart

Antares35

kowloonkev wrote: »

Maybe it's like a rebate for IVF.

We already get 20percent back on medical expenses

The impending collaspe and demise of the irish rugby team is long overdue


The goys just arent good enough

.anon.

Deleted User wrote: »

The impending collaspe and demise of the irish rugby team is long overdue


The goys just arent good enough

Hopefully this means people will stop pretending to like rugby.

Omackeral

.anon. wrote: »

Hopefully this means people will stop pretending to like rugby.

Remember the ''this is rugby country'' ads. Absolute waffle.

Justin Credible Darts

on the topic of Sport I despise the GAA who rake in millions, from RTE, SkyTV, Guinness, etc and wont pay the players a single penny.

Then part of me dont blame them if the players are stupid enough to play for nothing after being brainwashed about some parochial pride.

.anon.

Omackeral wrote: »

Remember the ''this is rugby country'' ads. Absolute waffle.

Or when someone on RTE called it "the people's game".

SineadSpears

People who take drugs shouldn't be automatically labelled a scumbag.

Those who are happy and content in their lives usually don't take drugs. So there is a reason why some choose to go ahead & take drugs. The reasons why, should be explored before branding them scum.

SineadSpears

SineadSpears wrote: »

People who take drugs shouldn't be automatically labelled a scumbag.

Those who are happy and content in their lives usually don't take drugs. So there is a reason why some choose to go ahead & take drugs. The reasons why, should be explored before branding them scum.

Why would taking drugs even lead to being called scum?

SineadSpears

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would taking drugs even lead to being called scum?

Have you not heard of anyone being called a scumbag for taking drugs? I've heard it loads & I don't agree with it.

Omackeral

Omackeral wrote: »

Remember the ''this is rugby country'' ads. Absolute waffle.

Team of us


:pukeface:

cms88

Deleted User wrote: »

The impending collaspe and demise of the irish rugby team is long overdue


The goys just arent good enough

''Unlucky lads''

Quazzie

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would taking drugs even lead to being called scum?

There is very few ways to acquire drugs without dealing with scumbags.

I suppose the user is classed as a scumbag by association.

Omackeral

cms88 wrote: »

''Unlucky lads''

The f*cking Eimernator. Christ. The charisma of a broomstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MeBp07MhhM

astrofool

Omackeral wrote: »

The f*cking Eimernator. Christ. The charisma of a broomstick.

"Quick, turn on the TV, I want to see the Tonga Haka", said no one ever.

jay0109

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

on the topic of Sport I despise the GAA who rake in millions, from RTE, SkyTV, Guinness, etc and wont pay the players a single penny.

Then part of me dont blame them if the players are stupid enough to play for nothing after being brainwashed about some parochial pride.

Do you think they pocket the money! That it pays for their personal credit cards, international holidays or pays their rent!
It all goes into coaching in clubs and schools, keeping kids involved in sport and giving them a reason to get off the couch.

.anon.

.anon. wrote: »

Hopefully this means people will stop pretending to like rugby.

Yeah because anyone that doesn’t like the exact same things as you has to be faking.

Will never understand the sneering types who pretty much celebrate the losses of the Irish rugby team - I can’t fathom wanting a team representing Ireland and trying their best to lose.

Even in sports I don’t like/don’t watch I’d just say fair play and best of luck. Actively hoping for their failure just because you’ve a chip on your shoulder or for whatever reason just comes off a bit bitter and pathetic imho.

Justin Credible Darts

jay0109 wrote: »

Do you think they pocket the money! That it pays for their personal credit cards, international holidays or pays their rent!
It all goes into coaching in clubs and schools, keeping kids involved in sport and giving them a reason to get off the couch.

keep telling yourself that.


and all those directors too are working for free, out of parochial pride I guess too

cms88

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

keep telling yourself that.


and all those directors too are working for free, out of parochial pride I guess too

None of them have every claimed to be doing it for free. There's couches all over the country being paid as well, along with admin staff in county baords grounds men etc

Justin Credible Darts

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

keep telling yourself that.


and all those directors too are working for free, out of parochial pride I guess too

At least the GAA dont go about demanding matches moved to accomandate their games


The absolute farce of irfu,wanting all oirelands(as they call em) moved to accomandate a rwc match,if we had been misfortunate enough to hold it


Arrogant gowls,deserve a knock back,its a woeful spectacle of buzzwords

(But yess the gaa have plenty of gowls,none more so than me.own county)

Justin Credible Darts

Deleted User wrote: »

At least the GAA dont go about demanding matches moved to accomandate their games


The absolute farce of irfu,wanting all oirelands(as they call em) moved to accomandate a rwc match,if we had been misfortunate enough to hold it


Arrogant gowls,deserve a knock back,its a woeful spectacle of buzzwords

I think both the GAA and Rugby have the most obnoxious fans.
Have you ever been out for a pint on a sunday after a game and see their "fans".


It got to the point i would hope cork would lose every game so I would not have to listen to those simpletons go on and on and on as if GAA was some sort of important thing in life.


Then we got the Rugby fans who came out of the woodwork and became almost as bad.