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ohnonotgmail wrote: »i'm not an atheist at all. My issue is that you don't have an issue with religious people preaching but you do have an issue with atheist people "preaching". all very odd.
I think the point being made is that Jimmy doesn’t care much for preaching of any sort - theistic, anti-theistic or otherwise. I’d be of the same opinion, but I’m not sure in Irish society it’s an altogether unpopular opinion. This, on the other hand, is a doozy -ohnonotgmail wrote: »ahem! if you need a religious education to encourage standards, morals and scruples in your children then you have failed as a parent.
Suggesting anyone has failed as a parent because they do not share your values is an opinion which is generally unpopular among people in Irish society. You gonna need your own ambo for that one hombre
In any case, what is not an opinion is that the State does not fund religious education. The State provides for education, and one of the criteria for any organisations which wish to be regarded as Patrons of schools by the State and wish to qualify for funding from the State which provides for education, is that they must teach the national curriculum. Their own curriculum, based upon the ethos of the school, whether it be religious or not, whatever world view it is based upon, is a matter for the organisations in question with regard to the establishment and patronage of schools.
The idea that parents have no choice but to enrol their children in schools in which the ethos of the school conflicts with their own world view, is simply not true. I know you’re familiar enough with the Irish Constitution too to know it’s not true, but for anyone who isn’t -
EDUCATION
ARTICLE 42
1 The State acknowledges that the primary and natural educator of the child is the Family and guarantees to respect the inalienable right and duty of parents to provide, according to their means, for the religious and moral, intellectual, physical and social education of their children.
2 Parents shall be free to provide this education in their homes or in private schools or in schools recognised or established by the State.
3 1° The State shall not oblige parents in violation of their conscience and lawful preference to send their children to schools established by the State, or to any particular type of school designated by the State.
2° The State shall, however, as guardian of the common good, require in view of actual conditions that the children receive a certain minimum education, moral, intellectual and social.
4 The State shall provide for free primary education and shall endeavour to supplement and give reasonable aid to private and corporate educational initiative, and, when the public good requires it, provide other educational facilities or institutions with due regard, however, for the rights of parents, especially in the matter of religious and moral formation.
Bold emphasis my own. What this also means is that while I take on board your opinion that I have failed as a parent (I can think of many more reasons why I have failed as a parent, but that’s enough to be going ahead with), it means that I’m more concerned about whether or not the State is of the opinion that I have failed as a parent, and then Articles 41 and 42A come into play, and no parent wants to go there by having their decisions for their children undermined by the people acting on behalf of the State. People acting on behalf of the State have a rather colourful history in that regard. Even in recent times it appears they can’t catch a break while preparing dossiers on families with children who are autistic, without someone blowing the whistle when they’re of the opinion that something ain’t kosher. In no small irony, those cases too concerned parents who wanted the State to fulfil its legal obligation to their children by providing for their education. Some people acting on behalf of the State obviously thought funds would be better spent on maintaining that the parents had failed in their obligations towards their children.
That’s the reason why I have no cause to be concerned for your opinions as a private citizen of how I raise my own child, but I would have cause to be concerned if people acting on behalf of the State were of the opinion that I had failed as a parent, particularly if I were of the opinion that the State is overstepping their authority in relation to their obligation to respect the inalienable right and duty of parents to provide, according to their means, for the religious and moral, intellectual, physical and social education of their children.
As an aside, I have no idea where anyone was given the impression that they have the authority to determine on behalf of the State how their individual contributions in the form of taxation are to be spent. They certainly have the right to lobby for more funding for their particular cause or causes, and they have the right to lobby for organisations they do not wish to receive funding to be defunded, but that requires a far more compelling argument than any that have been presented here, in order for the State to deprive people of their human rights. It’s actually a good thing for those people that they are protected in Irish law from what in principle is known as the tyranny of the majority, or rather what would be regarded as popular opinion.0 -
I usually whistle when ive done something wrong.
And i dont even notice im doing it.
Total giveaway to those who know me.
My dad does it when he's trying to be all cool and "I'm not bothered" but again it's a giveaway because it's just trying too hard!
I once worked in a place where this numpty customer would come in on a regular basis and whistle his way through entire musicals. The main reason I am no longer in a public facing role!0 -
My dad does it when he's trying to be all cool and "I'm not bothered" but again it's a giveaway because it's just trying too hard!
I once worked in a place where this numpty customer would come in on a regular basis and whistle his way through entire musicals. The main reason I am no longer in a public facing role!
I ... am your father. Luke.0 -
I ... am your father. Luke.
Completely unrelated to the thread but am reminded of a gift shop I visited in Paris a few years ago with all those tacky keyrings and the like, and they had single condoms for sale with "funny" slogans etc on them. One of them said "I...will not be your father" 0 -
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The Jehovah Witnesses went into lockdown before the State did.
Magazines are no longer handed out as used to be the case but you can ask for a magazine no bother. Fun fact, the most distributed magazines in the world are Watchtower and Awake.
It's gone 21st century now and while magazines exist you will be shown a video on a tablet these days now more than a magazine
Nothing is hidden here. They thought your brother was interested but there is no secret list and due to GDPR zero lists and details are even recorded anymore since 2019. It's different in the USA which has less strict rules on data protection. If you request you go on a "do not call" list that gets recorded.
But yeah, not a door has been knocked since Cheltenham 2020
This was years back. It might be worth something so
Also, I wasn't suggesting there was a secret list!
But I'm delighted to hear they are GDPR compliant 
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This was years back. It might be worth something so
Also, I wasn't suggesting there was a secret list! But I'm delighted to hear they are GDPR compliant
I had them at my door last summer trying the compassion route (“lots of people are suffering from depression during these hard times...”). I had a lot of fun with them and strangely i haven’t been bothered since.0 -
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Who's killing who now?
Wouldn't a yearly Covid jab be similar to a yearly flu jab?
SPF does prevent sunburn in fairness. I've super fair skin and it never fails me. I think the lack of vitamin D is due to people completely overdoing it where there is a huge amount of sun, like Australia. Think it's just about getting the balance right.
My limited research on sun cream is this.
If I dont wear it i'll be peeling the skin off myself for the next week in desperate pain.
If I do wear it my skin is fine, though i do hate the feel of it.
So I wear it 0 -
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My limited research on sun cream is this.
If I dont wear it i'll be peeling the skin off myself for the next week in desperate pain.
If I do wear it my skin is fine, though i do hate the feel of it.
So I wear it
Could you not wear a hat and sleeves? A lot of very common sunscreens contain some fairly horrible chemicals. Oxybenzone for starters. Which has been linked with CAUSING skin cancer and it also kills Coral Reefs and is generally terrible stuff to introduce into sea water. So please all you people who love sunscreen please dont go swimming when covered in the stuff.
'Oxybenzone is a cornucopia of nasty side effects. It’s considered a hazardous eye irritant and, as an allergen, is also known to cause skin allergies. As a hormone disruptor to coral, it also causes hormone disruption in humans, affecting estrogen production particularly in women and testosterone production in men. At least one study showed oxybenzone exposure lead to lower testosterone levels in adolescent boys, as well as thyroid problems in both men and women.
If that’s not scary enough, there’s mounting concern that oxybenzone causes skin cancer, according to research groups such as the Environmental Working Group (EWG) and other leading toxicology experts. A team of researchers at the State University of New York and the National Institutes of Health found a link between a concentration of benzophenones (the categorization to which oxybenzone belongs) and poorer reproductive success in men. The same study found that oxybenzone exposure increased women’s risk of other reproductive diseases, like endometriosis.
https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/the-trouble-with-sunscreen-chemicals/#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20sunscreens%20contain,oxide%20and%2For%20titanium%20dioxide.0 -
My limited research on sun cream is this.
If I dont wear it i'll be peeling the skin off myself for the next week in desperate pain.
If I do wear it my skin is fine, though i do hate the feel of it.
So I wear it
Same. Absolutely no way I'm going out in the sun without it. I'll pass on feeling bad about the hormonal/ coral effect for the two weeks a year I wear it, while there are far worse things happening to our planet!0 -
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[Deleted User] wrote: »Next chance I get I'm going to squeeze a tube of sun screen into the ocean.
I'm gonna squeeze it on my OH, if the effect on male fertility is as promised! 0 -
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