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    #6632
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,458 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    I can tell from that you are someone who hasnt spent 5 minutes in Lisbon yourself.

    how is that relevant?


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    #6633
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    how is that relevant?


    So you have no experince of the drug problem in Portugal, yet you should everyone elses opinion that there is a problem there down.



    Its relevant because 5 minutes in Lisbon is literally all it would take for you to be offered hard drugs.


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    #6634
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,458 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    So you have no experince of the drug problem in Portugal, yet you should everyone elses opinion that there is a problem there down.



    Its relevant because 5 minutes in Lisbon is literally all it would take for you to be offered hard drugs.

    yeah and i can probably do the same in dublin. the difference in portugal is that drug users don't end up with criminal records that make them unemployable, they have social supports in place for those that want to quit that help them become contributing members to society instead of a drain on society, the police dont waste their time arresting drug users so they have more resources to go after the dealers and distributors. Go read up on what they have actually done in portugal https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it


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    #6635
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    yeah and i can probably do the same in dublin. the difference in portugal is that drug users don't end up with criminal records that make them unemployable, they have social supports in place for those that want to quit that help them become contributing members to society instead of a drain on society, the police dont waste their time arresting drug users so they have more resources to go after the dealers and distributors. Go read up on what they have actually done in portugal https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it




    When you spend some time there come back and let us know.
    Dublin hasnt a patch on Portugals drug problems.


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    #6636
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,458 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    When you spend some time there come back and let us know.
    Dublin hasnt a patch on Portugals drug problems.

    so you are just going to ignore the link i posted?


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    #6637
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Speaking the truth is unwelcome because it dares to invite critical thinking.


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    #6638
    The Raging Bile Duct
    Registered Users Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    jaxxx wrote: »
    Speaking the truth is unwelcome because it dares to invite critical thinking.

    Kind of depends on what your perception of the truth is.


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    #6639
    FileNotFound
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    Open discussion is dead or too dangerous to be worth the hassle.


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    #6640
    rossie1977
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    JimmyVik wrote: »
    So you have no experince of the drug problem in Portugal, yet you should everyone elses opinion that there is a problem there down.



    Its relevant because 5 minutes in Lisbon is literally all it would take for you to be offered hard drugs.

    I have been to Lisbon and wasn't offered any kind of drugs...
    JimmyVik wrote: »
    When you spend some time there come back and let us know.
    Dublin hasnt a patch on Portugals drug problems.

    Ireland has on average ten times as many drug overdose deaths per annum than Portugal despite Portugal having twice our population.


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    #6641
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    so you are just going to ignore the link i posted?


    You can get links for anything on the internet. Dont you know this.
    I have lived in Portugal. I know exactly what the problems are there.


    You dont even seem to think people walking up to your kids in front of you and offering them cocaine and herion on a street as busy as Grafton street is a problem.


    Portugals drug problem hasnt gone away. And it is far worse than I have seen in Dublin.


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    #6642
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,458 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    You can get links for anything on the internet. Dont you know this.
    I have lived in Portugal. I know exactly what the problems are there.


    You dont even seem to think people walking up to your kids in front of you and offering them cocaine and herion on a street as busy as Grafton street is a problem.


    Portugals drug problem hasnt gone away. And it is far worse than I have seen in Dublin.

    like talking to a brick wall.


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    #6643
    walshb
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    Vast majority Irish people protesting Israel couldn't give a flying fiddlers about Palestinians!


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    #6644
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    like talking to a brick wall.


    likewise.
    Let me know when you get back from Lisbon how long it took you to be offered cocaine or heroin walking down the street.


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    #6645
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,458 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    likewise.
    Let me know when you get back from Lisbon how long it took you to be offered cocaine or heroin walking down the street.

    you are basing your opinion solely on this. situations tend to be a little more complex.


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    #6646
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you are basing your opinion solely on this. situations tend to be a little more complex.

    "Well your honor we have plenty of hearsay and conjecture, those are kinds of evidence."


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    #6647
    cms88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭cms88


    walshb wrote: »
    Vast majority Irish people protesting Israel couldn't give a flying fiddlers about Palestinians!

    Like many things nowadays it's ''cool'' to be seen as supporting it. Next week it'll be something else for them.


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    #6648
    Purple is a Fruit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Purple is a Fruit


    I think it seems more "cool" and edgy to support Israel.

    Supporting Palestine is conventional. It's understandable too - the IDF is being ridiculously excessive. But the news reports are extremely biased - the perspective of the Israeli people should be covered also.


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    #6649
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Purple is a Fruit wrote: »
    I think it seems more "cool" and edgy to support Israel.

    Supporting Palestine is conventional. It's understandable too - the IDF is being ridiculously excessive. But the news reports are extremely biased - the perspective of the Israeli people should be covered also.

    Where are you in the world? In the US there is demonstrably no shortage of coverage from the Israeli perspective, if anything the Gaza perspective we get is being actively censored by private interests. Mainstream media coverage only soured on Israel when the Associated Press tower was bombed to rubble.

    So on those grounds its hard to say the coverage has been "extremely biased" if your raison d'etre is that they aren't covering the Israeli perspective when there is an ambassador or an IDF agent on a television screen on some channel or another several times a day. Where are the Palestinian panelists on Tucker Carlson?


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    #6650
    Brian?
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    JimmyVik wrote: »
    When you spend some time there come back and let us know.
    Dublin hasnt a patch on Portugals drug problems.

    You seem to equate free availability with problems. To you being offered drugs is a problem. This is a completely subjective opinion.

    The actual problems caused by drugs are the health impacts and the criminality. Both of which have decreased in Portugal.

    I know this is mind blowing stuff for you, but someone offering drugs in public isn't actually a problem. Addiction is a real problem and it's going down.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #6651
    Brian?
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    cms88 wrote: »
    Like many things nowadays it's ''cool'' to be seen as supporting it. Next week it'll be something else for them.

    Irish people have being actively supporting Palestine since the 50s.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #6652
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    likewise.
    Let me know when you get back from Lisbon how long it took you to be offered cocaine or heroin walking down the street.


    My kids being offered heroin and coke isn't a problem. My kids accepting the offer is.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #6653
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Brian? wrote: »
    Irish people have being actively supporting Palestine since the 50s.

    No one is doubting that...


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    #6654
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Brian? wrote: »
    Irish people have being actively supporting Palestine since the 50s.

    Which may correlate along with how reverently the Irish are viewed abroad :cool:


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    #6655
    Purple is a Fruit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Purple is a Fruit


    Overheal wrote: »
    Where are you in the world? In the US there is demonstrably no shortage of coverage from the Israeli perspective, if anything the Gaza perspective we get is being . Mainstream media coverage only soured on Israel when the Associated Press tower was bombed to rubble.

    So on those grounds its hard to say the coverage has been "extremely biased" if your raison d'etre is that they aren't covering the Israeli perspective when there is an ambassador or an IDF agent on a television screen on some channel or another several times a day. Where are the Palestinian panelists on Tucker Carlson?
    Obviously I'm not in the U.S. and this is an Irish website.


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    #6656
    Purple is a Fruit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Purple is a Fruit


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    No one is doubting that...
    It was in response to a post saying "nowadays" it's cool.


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    #6657
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    No one is doubting that...

    The poster I replied to seemed to be

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #6658
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Purple is a Fruit wrote: »
    Obviously I'm not in the U.S. and this is an Irish website.

    "obviously."


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    #6659
    Purple is a Fruit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Purple is a Fruit


    Overheal wrote: »
    "obviously."
    Well if I was, I wouldn't say what I said about the biased coverage.

    Looking for confrontation is no fun.


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    #6660
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 14,093 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Popular Opinion: There's too much discussion in an thread about opinions.

    Unpopular Opinion: Not hurting someone's feelings is more important that facts.


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    #6661
    [Deleted User]
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    Mobile Apple devices should be completely banned in the EU in response to the AirTags launch.

    If you own an Android, there is no way to know you are being followed by an airtag that is constantly using surrounding iPhones to update its location to its owner. Since iPhones are everywhere, your location will always be known. Even if you use an iPhone, these alerts don't come up if you come close to the airtag often, so you can track your spouse for example incredibly easily.

    The logic is simply and impossible to argue against. The surveillance network that provides this tracking shouldn't be for sale.


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