VW ID.4

Black_Knight

Deleted User wrote: »

So with the Max you get the travel assist ?

Travel assist (lane keep "ping pong" in the 1st)
Power seats with massage (heated only on the 1st)
12" display vs 10" on the 1st
HUD - Bob loves this
Wireless phone charging (2 USB C front + 2 USB C rear only on 1st)
360 camera and rear camera which "turns" as you turn the wheel (Rear view camera only on 1st)
Adaptive chassis
Electric open/close boot.

21" wheels (20" on 1st)
Pano roof
Funky lights that do "tricks" and are Matrix headlights (LED with auto dip on 1st)
A few extra lights (door handle lights, light bar on the dash, fancy turn signals) - Welcome lights in the 1st model only.

the_amazing_raisin

JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »

And automatic boot, 360 cameras, electric seats (with massage), HUD, and a few more bits!

All the trimmings


I didn't realise the automatic boot was only on the max, glad I went for it now as that's a nice feature to have


Closing your own boot is so last decade

the_amazing_raisin

Black_Knight wrote: »

Travel assist (lane keep "ping pong" in the 1st)
Power seats with massage (heated only on the 1st)
12" display vs 10" on the 1st
HUD - Bob loves this
Wireless phone charging (2 USB C front + 2 USB C rear only on 1st)
360 camera and rear camera which "turns" as you turn the wheel (Rear view camera only on 1st)
Adaptive chassis
Electric open/close boot.

21" wheels (20" on 1st)
Pano roof
Funky lights that do "tricks" and are Matrix headlights (LED with auto dip on 1st)
A few extra lights (door handle lights, light bar on the dash, fancy turn signals) - Welcome lights in the 1st model only.

The matrix lights do look pretty cool, and from the tests they seem very useful on unlit roads at night


They'll blank out sections of the full beams when it sees other cars, so you can keep the full beams on without blinding other drivers

JohnnyJohnJohns

No wireless charging on the 1st? Only on Max? Thats a pity.

the_amazing_raisin

JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »

No wireless charging on the 1st? Only on Max? Thats a pity.

A few of the guys over on the ID.3 forum have been asking about adding the wireless charging plate. It sounds like the interface under the center console is the same on all trims so it could be as easy as just getting the part and swapping it


I don't have any phones that support wireless charging, and I believe Android Auto only works via the wired connection so I'll be using USB all the way


I do like how the phone can be hidden away under the cover, good for removing any temptations to gawk at your phone while driving

Black_Knight

cruisey1987 wrote: »

A few of the guys over on the ID.3 forum have been asking about adding the wireless charging plate. It sounds like the interface under the center console is the same on all trims so it could be as easy as just getting the part and swapping it


I don't have any phones that support wireless charging, and I believe Android Auto only works via the wired connection so I'll be using USB all the way


I do like how the phone can be hidden away under the cover, good for removing any temptations to gawk at your phone while driving

It says apple carplay is wireless, so it'd appeal to those sheep buyers.

Lantus

Where this car excels is in delivering a family friendly car with an almost octavia boot and roof rack and tow bar with good range. That's a lot of boxes ticked which the leaf, ioniq, niro and kona don't have.

This is a game changer and sets a new level.

eagerv

Black_Knight wrote: »

It says apple carplay is wireless, so it'd appeal to those sheep buyers.

As a ID.3 owner who was recently fleeced , must say the wireless Car Play is great, particularly the sat view on Google maps.


And the phone charging curve is quite similar to my car:), flies if you plug it in with under 20%, a bit slower from about 50- 80%, then crawls the last 20%.

JohnnyJohnJohns

I think wireless Android auto is promised too isn't it?

eagerv

JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »

I think wireless Android auto is promised too isn't it?

I don't know, they didn't mention it on the ID.3 specs previously, but would be surprised if it wasn't available also.

Silent Running

JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »

I think wireless Android auto is promised too isn't it?

From what I have read, the wireless Android Auto works as long as your phone is running the latest version of Android.

JohnnyJohnJohns

Silent Running wrote: »

From what I have read, the wireless Android Auto works as long as your phone is running the latest version of Android.

Cool, my phone is a pixel so generally up to date!

the_amazing_raisin

JohnnyJohnJohns wrote: »

Cool, my phone is a pixel so generally up to date!

I've a OnePlus 3T so it's running Android god knows what version, doubt I'll ever get wireless Android auto

Luckily I think it's incompatible with all the spyware the Chinese and American governments are using

EDIT: Apparently I'm running Android 9, I didn't even know there was an Android 9, whatever happened to 8???

Mr Q

Silent Running wrote: »

From what I have read, the wireless Android Auto works as long as your phone is running the latest version of Android.

Android Auto works wirelessly on the ID.3 with the recent software update so can't see it being an issue on any ID.4

MarkN

Impressed.

the_amazing_raisin

Looks great Mark, thanks for sharing those pictures

Anything in particular you liked or disliked about the car?

Also please post a link to the video when it's published

MarkN

B pillar is huge, if you've the passenger seat at a certain point, the headrest with the pillar is significant.

100% (or I'm nearly sure it was 100) displayed 325kms. 2 degrees outside and it has obviously had many different people driving it so I wouldn't go by that range compared to a one driver ID4. Very stable range however at motorway speeds. A solid, solid car and one that felt premium. As I was the only one to have the car today, I wasn't being rushed so hopefully it will be a fairly in depth look.

KCross

Check the software version @MarkN..... its in Settings somewhere.

0783 is the 2.0 version.

If its a smaller number than that its on the original software which doesnt do battery heating quite as well and might affect your efficiency figures so its worth noting what you have for your tests.

eagerv

I think it's 0784 in the ID.4, but as KC says above it's worth checking..

the_amazing_raisin

eagerv wrote: »

I think it's 0784 in the ID.4, but as KC says above it's worth checking..

I think I say a guy in Netherlands testing his ID.4 and it said 0783 as well

Hopefully they didn't put the software for the wrong car on it

the_amazing_raisin

MarkN wrote: »

B pillar is huge, if you've the passenger seat at a certain point, the headrest with the pillar is significant.

Does it create a big blind spot? Or at least bigger than on another car?

How was the blind spot detection (the lights on the mirrors)?

eagerv

cruisey1987 wrote: »

I think I say a guy in Netherlands testing his ID.4 and it said 0783 as well

Hopefully they didn't put the software for the wrong car on it

I am not sure, but remember one of the Youtubers (Battery Life?) mentioning something about the 4 for The ID.4..

the_amazing_raisin

eagerv wrote: »

I am not sure, but remember one of the Youtubers (Battery Life?) mentioning something about the 4 for The ID.4..

I remember that too which was why I was a bit surprised to see 0783 on an ID.4

MarkN

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Does it create a big blind spot? Or at least bigger than on another car?

How was the blind spot detection (the lights on the mirrors)?

Bit of rubber necking required at times. Messing around with the passenger seat will probably solve it.

I didn’t check the software and now it’s too late but I was under the impression from others that it was the latest. I didn’t have any issues with it anyway - the ID3 I had was quite different.

KCross

eagerv wrote: »

I think it's 0784 in the ID.4, but as KC says above it's worth checking..

I have my doubts on this too.

The initial version in the ID.3 had 0564. An interim update had 570 and the latest is 783. There is nothing in those version numbers to suggest that the last digit represents the model.

I'd say someone put 2x2 and got 22.

MarkN

9am tomorrow morning

digiman

MarkN wrote: »

9am tomorrow morning

Just release it now!! What’s the idea of doing it at 9am? I assume it works better for views, but interested to know how

MarkN

digiman wrote: »

Just release it now!! What’s the idea of doing it at 9am? I assume it works better for views, but interested to know how

It’s only uploading at moment and is 95gb. No point putting it live at 2.30am or whenever my Virgin has it up but yeah generally, you upload when your channel is busier / viewers are awake which is easy to work out in YouTube analytics

the_amazing_raisin

Great review, thanks Mark!

Thanks for measuring the boot and showing the blind spot detection, both look great

Black_Knight

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Great review, thanks Mark!

Thanks for measuring the boot and showing the blind spot detection, both look great

Was that 125cm wide including the little pouches at the side, or just the floor?