El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie [Netflix] - *Spoilers*

gormdubhgorm

The Black Oil wrote: »

There was a street sign Holly Ave/Drive, iirc. BB nod there.

Yeah it was explained here in an 'Easter Eggs' video about El Camino.

The character Holly in BB was based on Vince Gilligan real life partner's name Holly.

- Holly avenue.

But there was a further reference to her with Arroz lane as her name is Holly Rice. Arroz means rice in Spanish.

gormdubhgorm

golfball37 wrote: »

Small things like hearing about the Houston businesswoman in a critical condition on radio are things Gilligan does very well. Jesse knew straight away what and who it was.

They even mentioned the 'turbulent week for the Euro' on the radio.
Then I remembered it was supposed to be set in 2013 they are great for the details. Must take them ages!

gwalk

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

If in the south of the Republic, you can get to Donegal without going through Northern Ireland. You cannot reach Alaska by land, without passing through Canada, and American citizens require their passports to do so. Again, by driving there, not by flying.

Amazingly, it's actually a different process than getting to "Donegal via Tyrone".

Just read that back and realise how stupid my analogy comes across

My apologies, can we chalk that up to craky Sunday morning syndrome

weldoninhio

Was also a bit far fetched that Jesse took out the welder with 2 shots from his pocket, but took about 10 shots to hit the second lad, even though he was aiming at him.

Mad_maxx

Passable fare

bodhrandude

Loved it myself, to the poster that suggested a spin off, of a series with Skinny Pete and Badger would love that.

gormdubhgorm

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Was he to just stand there and let the guy shoot him instead? plus this is a guy who was brutally tortured, witnessed the cold blooded murder of a girl that he loves and the threats against her son, plus the welding guy was friends with the Nazis. You go through all that and it changes you.

I thought what was more unbelievable in El Camino - was how bad a shot that fella with the balding red head and Mustache was.

He must have fired four shots at Jesse at point blank range and did not even wound him.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

You’d almost think it was entertainment and not real life. Mad isn’t it.

gormdubhgorm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

You’d almost think it was entertainment and not real life. Mad isn’t it.

It was a bit 'A-Team' though lots of shots no hits.

Penfailed

bodhrandude wrote: »

Loved it myself, to the poster that suggested a spin off, of a series with Skinny Pete and Badger would love that.

Yeah...two fellas getting stoned and playing video games for a series. Great.

Ironicname

Penfailed wrote:

Yeah...two fellas getting stoned and playing video games for a series. Great.

Does sound good to me

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Anyone else notice Walt’s big bulbous head? Clearly some sort of bald cap because he wasn’t going shaving his head for one scene.

gormdubhgorm

I was having a look to see how far Albuquerque New Mexico is away from Haines Alaska.

It is 2937 miles.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albuquerque,+NM,+USA/Haines,+AK,+USA/@49.7534149,-133.1341872,3.88z

Ed Galbraith, 'the vacuum repairman' mentions when they were in Alaska that" it is 40 miles in that direction to Haines"

So I had a look at the Map near the Canada-American border in British Colombia the nearest town is a place called Pleasant Camp.

After Pleasant Camp I looked for a place that is about 40 miles from Haines on the Haines Highway across the border in Alaska.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Haines,+AK,+USA/''/@59.4172096,-136.553024,10z/data=!4m12!4m11!1m5!1m1!1s0x54001f972851b98d:0xb4f19a60eafd118e!2m2!1d-135.445!2d59.2358333!1m3!2m2!1d-136.3583565!2d59.4497435!3e0

gormdubhgorm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Anyone else notice Walt’s big bulbous head? Clearly some sort of bald cap because he wasn’t going shaving his head for one scene.

I didn't notice it to be honest. I was too busy listening to what was being said - in case there was some sort of reveal or nugget of info.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I didn't notice it to be honest. I was too busy listening to what was being said - in case there was some sort of reveal or nugget of info.

I noticed it but like most things like that I’m used to from watching better call Saul.

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I was having a look to see how far Albuquerque New Mexico is away from Haines Alaska.

It is 2937 miles.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albuquerque,+NM,+USA/Haines,+AK,+USA/@49.7534149,-133.1341872,3.88z

Ed Galbraith, 'the vacuum repairman' mentions when they were in Alaska that" it is 40 miles in that direction to Haines"

So I had a look at the Map near the Canada-American border in British Colombia the nearest town is a place called Pleasant Camp.

After Pleasant Camp I looked for a place that is about 40 miles from Haines on the Haines Highway across the border in Alaska.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Haines,+AK,+USA/''/@59.4172096,-136.553024,10z/data=!4m12!4m11!1m5!1m1!1s0x54001f972851b98d:0xb4f19a60eafd118e!2m2!1d-135.445!2d59.2358333!1m3!2m2!1d-136.3583565!2d59.4497435!3e0

Confused - are you saying yer man pretty much just sent Jesse into a trap?


Cos I have to be honest, for some reason, when I was watching it, i felt Jesse was getting set up. When the drone shot at the end shows him driving away, I had a feeling the camera/drone was gonna fly high enough to show the border/patrol cars etc. in front of jesse and that he was driving straight into being caught.


But then that didn't happen, so I presumed I'm just always expecting a twist in the story and left it be.

gormdubhgorm

Deleted User wrote: »

Confused - are you saying yer man pretty much just sent Jesse into a trap?


Cos I have to be honest, for some reason, when I was watching it, i felt Jesse was getting set up. When the drone shot at the end shows him driving away, I had a feeling the camera/drone was gonna fly high enough to show the border/patrol cars etc. in front of jesse and that he was driving straight into being caught.


But then that didn't happen, so I presumed I'm just always expecting a twist in the story and left it be.

Ah no, nothing so elaborate. I was just curious to find out where Jesse's character ended up - Haines Alaska, and to get some idea how far away Alaska is from New Mexico.
Ed Galbraith 'the disappearer' guy has an 'honour among thieves' code (a lot like Mike) 'a deals a deal'.
He would not be the sort to be rat/snitch.

gormdubhgorm

There is a good review of El Camino here -

It goes on about the symbolism etc and BB references.

Gwynplaine

The fella who plays Todd is only 31. I thought he was about 50. Put on some load of weight.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

How is Jesse Plemons throwing it into Kirsten Dunst? Yes, I’m shallow.

Cina

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

How is Jesse Plemons throwing it into Kirsten Dunst? Yes, I’m shallow.

He has the real her trapped on a virtual spaceship.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I wonder if Plemons had put weight on for some other role?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I wonder if Plemons had put weight on for some other role?

He's been a fat bloater for years. He looked even bigger in Fargo.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I wonder if Plemons had put weight on for some other role?

Apparently he put it on for his role in Fargo season 2, and just didn't lose it in the aftermath.

But hey, he worked with Kirsten Dunst on Fargo, so that's probably where they hooked up. Jesse wouldn't be the first man to let himself go a little once he found a good woman.

(Posted while I bathe myself in butter)

Ironicname

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote:

I wonder if Plemons had put weight on for some other role?

Yup. Specifically breakfast rolls

rubadub

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

How is Jesse Plemons throwing it into Kirsten Dunst? Yes, I’m shallow.

apparently he is a great cook and she is hooked on it, banging out 97% these days.

RocketRaccoon

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Anyone else notice Walt’s big bulbous head? Clearly some sort of bald cap because he wasn’t going shaving his head for one scene.

Yep, first thing I said to my wife.

adox

Gwynplaine wrote: »

The fella who plays Todd is only 31. I thought he was about 50. Put on some load of weight.

He was also in Friday Night Lights. Having known him from that excellent series it took some getting used to seeing him as Todd in BB.

rubadub

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Yep, first thing I said to my wife.

I didn't notice it, saw it in the credits -the makeup people who did it.

interesting comment on reddit

Noticed it, but it’s understandable.

Cranston probably didn’t want to shave his head again; either for personal reasons or because it would be a dead giveaway of his involvement in the movie.

also saw this on reddit!

Ironicname

RocketRaccoon wrote:

Yep, first thing I said to my wife.

"Look at that big bulbous head"???

Good night I take it?

peddlelies

Didn't find it great to be honest, wasn't expecting a lot of action or anything but a bit more substance. Jesse searching the apartment for money was mind bogglingly boring, there was a good few scenes like this. Was surprised to see Vince Gilligan's name rolling off at the end.

6/10 for me

gormdubhgorm

Gwynplaine wrote: »

The fella who plays Todd is only 31. I thought he was about 50. Put on some load of weight.

All that soup I assume....

arybvtcw0eolkf

peddlelies wrote: »

Didn't find it great to be honest, wasn't expecting a lot of action or anything but a bit more substance. Jesse searching the apartment for money was mind bogglingly boring, there was a good few scenes like this. Was surprised to see Vince Gilligan's name rolling off at the end.

6/10 for me

6/10, I think you're being very generous.

Watched it last night. It was lazily written and mind numbingly boring

3/10 (and I feel I'm being generous).

brianregan09

Thought it was awful turned it off after an hour and that was ten mins too long

RocketRaccoon

To the people giving 3/10,6/10 and turning it off after an hour. Can you please explain what you were wanting or expecting?

gormdubhgorm

Gwynplaine wrote: »

The fella who plays Todd is only 31. I thought he was about 50. Put on some load of weight.

Apparently there was a reason for it a few years ago Jesse Plemons (who plays Todd) had to gain weight for a film called Black Mass.

https://manofmany.com/entertainment/jesse-plemons-transformed-black-mass

So he used to be even fatter then.

ixoy

This reminded me a little of 'Toy Story 4'. Both were epilogue pieces to a main story arc that was finished but added a little bit of character closure. Neither as good as what had gone before but, independent of that, still both enjoyable.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Hunky Monster wrote: »

He's been a fat bloater for years. He looked even bigger in Fargo.

Deleted User wrote: »

Apparently he put it on for his role in Fargo season 2, and just didn't lose it in the aftermath.

But hey, he worked with Kirsten Dunst on Fargo, so that's probably where they hooked up. Jesse wouldn't be the first man to let himself go a little once he found a good woman.

(Posted while I bathe myself in butter)

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Apparently there was a reason for it a few years ago Jesse Plemons (who plays Todd) had to gain weight for a film called Black Mass.

https://manofmany.com/entertainment/jesse-plemons-transformed-black-mass

So he used to be even fatter then.

To be honest, no judgement here then. The aggressive weight loss and weight gain actors have to sometimes engage in always seems so tough to me and some people might find it harder than others to get back to a healthy weight afterwards. Plemons never was a heartthrob so there’d be less pressure on him to get back to fighting weight than other actors.

Still, it was unfortunately very jarring in El Camino. That was a LOT of extra weight. I’d say Plemons is devising a weight loss plan right about now. Can’t be easy to read all the comments about your appearance! :eek:

Yakult

Watched it last night and only catching up with all the online talk about it now. I enjoyed it. Never expected anything more from BB really so was great to get something like this to tie up the Jesse's story.

Re: Jesse Plemon's weight, I didn't find it in anyway distracting. I noticed it, but couldn't really care tbh. He still had the creepy Todd vibe. I actually can't believe he is being body shamed online for it though. People need to find better ways to spend their time online.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Yakult wrote: »

Watched it last night and only catching up with all the online talk about it now. I enjoyed it. Never expected anything more from BB really so was great to get something like this to tie up the Jesse's story.

Re: Jesse Plemon's weight, I didn't find it in anyway distracting. I noticed it, but couldn't really care tbh. He still had the creepy Todd vibe. I actually can't believe he is being body shamed online for it though. People need to find better ways to spend their time online.

It was distracting to me because this was supposed to be happening during the Series 5 time period and he looked markedly different, far more so than an other character. Body-shaming, really? Does everything need a label now? It pulled me and others (going by reviews and messageboards) out of the show. It’s going to be commented upon if it has an impact on the show.

If you’ve never made a disparaging comment about somebody’s appearance in your life, you’d be unusual.

Joekers

There was no need to make this film. Did I enjoy it yes as did most who enjoyed BB I assume but tbh it felt like 3 decent episodes crammed into 2 hours with nothing significant happening in all that time.

Aaron Paul needs to get himself s good agent and start making good movies cause he can act but just needs the right roles.

Agent Coulson

Joekers wrote: »

There was no need to make this film. Did I enjoy it yes as did most who enjoyed BB I assume but tbh it felt like 3 decent episodes crammed into 2 hours with nothing significant happening in all that time.

Aaron Paul needs to get himself s good agent and start making good movies cause he can act but just needs the right roles.

He was great in The Path and is in the new season of WestWorld I think he is doing great for himself not all actors are movie actors he suits being on TV and in series for me than on the big screen right now in his career.

Hector Savage

Deleted User wrote: »

Apparently he put it on for his role in Fargo season 2, and just didn't lose it in the aftermath.

But hey, he worked with Kirsten Dunst on Fargo, so that's probably where they hooked up. Jesse wouldn't be the first man to let himself go a little once he found a good woman.

(Posted while I bathe myself in butter)

Nice username btw, I assume you are a big fan of The Stand ?

Padraig Mor

Thought this was utter tripe altogether. Boring, pointless, and an answer to a question no one was asking.

Tabnabs

So Badger and Skinny Pete, they're a successful couple who have finally settled down now, right?

Two blithering idiots who could hardly string a coherent sentence together are now living together in suburban bliss? A nice home, thousands of dollars of cash in their pockets. All the trappings of a happy and normal life.

There was more stretch in that storyline than in Todds waistband.

Ironicname

Yakult wrote:

I actually can't believe he is being body shamed online for it though. People need to find better ways to spend their time online.

Oh FFS. Get a grip. Noticing that a character is well over 2 stone heavier than he should be according to the films timeline is hardly Body Shaming.

Even your " I noticed the weight gain, but it doesn't matter to me" reeks of faux superiority.

w/s/p/c/

I really like this, it was exactly what I expected and hoped for... closure for the Jesse Pinkman character (I always wondered where he drove to when leaving the compound in the finale).

More like an extended episode than a movie. Good to see the old characters pop up (noticed WW's bald cap straight away it made his head look huge!!). The character of Todd has to be one of TV's most creepy characters of all time. So cold blooded, more interested in his belt than the body lying on his kitchen floor. Who cares if the actor is a couple of stone heavier!

Hopefully that is that when it comes to Jesse's character and he doesn't make any further appearances anywhere down the line.

Solid 7/10 from me.

Penn

Tabnabs wrote: »

So Badger and Skinny Pete, they're a successful couple who have finally settled down now, right?

Two blithering idiots who could hardly string a coherent sentence together are now living together in suburban bliss? A nice home, thousands of dollars of cash in their pockets. All the trappings of a happy and normal life.

There was more stretch in that storyline than in Todds waistband.

They made a load of money when they were dealing for Walt and Jess back in Season 2. Then Walt paid them to help threaten the Grey Matter couple, so they got a good bit of money out of that (but it only would have been a day or two between them getting that money and Jesse escaping from the compound and coming to Pete's house).

That said, the house and their cars were still fairly basic, and I think Badger was only hanging out at Skinny Pete's house, they're probably not living together. I didn't see any of that as being a stretch of any kind. They regularly did the same with Jesse in the previous seasons.

gormdubhgorm

Yakult wrote: »

Re: Jesse Plemon's weight, I didn't find it in anyway distracting. I noticed it, but couldn't really care tbh. He still had the creepy Todd vibe. I actually can't believe he is being body shamed online for it though. People need to find better ways to spend their time online.

Ah Jayus, you couldn't not notice it!
These type of comments like yours are annoying.
If a person got ripped and toned since you last saw them in role, are you only allowed to comment on it then?
The fact the fella gained a noticeable amount of weight you are supposed to delude yourself it did not happen?
Particulary in light of the fact BB is supposed to be in 2013 still and the viewer trys to buy into that.
As I said in an earlier post it turns out he had to gain a lot of weight for a film called black mass in 2015.
He still carried some of the weight through to Fargo 2016.

https://manofmany.com/entertainment/jesse-plemons-transformed-black-mass

The bit I thought that was very telling was the final paragraph from the article above -

--


Of course, while doing press for Fargo it seemed the reporters were again mostly interested in his figure. In the same GQ interview, Plemons said, “It carried over to Fargo, too. And I had lost a little bit of weight at the Fargo premiere, and I remember this guy, like, ‘What’s your secret to losing the weight? Tell us!’ I was like, ‘Well, I was eating everything, and then I just stopped eating terrible food.’ It’s not too complicated.”


--

I found this very honest and refreshing as it just showed it is all about mindset and putting a bit of effort in. Your type of mindset about 'body shaming' and pretending not to notice does no-one any good.

It gives people an excuse to play the victim. And not only that it allows a certain hardcore subset to collude in the delusion that that they are healthy and 'proud'. Even if they are obese. 'Fat pride' etc. I know that is the other end of the spectrum but that is what it leads to. And that mindset is not healthy.
In reality is as simple as eating the right foods, getting exercise - eating in moderation - routine.
People feel better if they exercise - get the endorphins and blood going.

If anyone does this properly for 3 months they will see benefits physical and mental - unfortunately many people do not even have the will to do that. It is much easier for them to fall back on excuses like it is harder for x or harder for y. Or the 'I am proud of the way I look' - when they are clearly not. The 'body shaming' shtick feeds into this mindset.

The phrase 'body shaming' is a nice phrase, but it is one where many unfortunately try and hide behind, rather than try and solve thier weight issues.
Anyone can exercise and eat properly/better regardless of race, creed, gender, orientation, or ability/disability.

earlytobed

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I was having a look to see how far Albuquerque New Mexico is away from Haines Alaska.

It is 2937 miles.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Albuquerque,+NM,+USA/Haines,+AK,+USA/@49.7534149,-133.1341872,3.88z

Ed Galbraith, 'the vacuum repairman' mentions when they were in Alaska that" it is 40 miles in that direction to Haines"

So I had a look at the Map near the Canada-American border in British Colombia the nearest town is a place called Pleasant Camp.

After Pleasant Camp I looked for a place that is about 40 miles from Haines on the Haines Highway across the border in Alaska.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Haines,+AK,+USA/''/@59.4172096,-136.553024,10z/data=!4m12!4m11!1m5!1m1!1s0x54001f972851b98d:0xb4f19a60eafd118e!2m2!1d-135.445!2d59.2358333!1m3!2m2!1d-136.3583565!2d59.4497435!3e0

Nice Neighbourhood, Jessie will fit right in