Trump and the 25th amendment

Cody montana · 25-08-2019 9:17pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Older jewish voters may surprise us this time round with all he's done for israel. Nobody has really polled them since, I reckon thats secured him florida.

Black voters are increasingly, for the first time departing the democrats. Regardless of who's responsibility it was, black unemployment is the lowest its been in the US and donny is taking credit, there are a lot more black Trump supporters than you think.

Latinos - cubans love the guy, a lot of legal latino immigrants are huge fans of the guy, they resent their relatives who came in illegally.

women for trump is a huge movement and if the other side is creepy joe biden, theres a lot more women won't go for joe.

young voters don't turn up at the ballot box.

College educated ...... up to making 120k a year, after that they start leaning heavily GOP.

He literally insulted 80% of Jewish American a few days ago when he called them disloyal.
There was outrage.
Black voters have not switched sides as shown in the midterms.
Half a million less jobs created under trump than stated.
First 30 months of Trump admin created 5.7m jobs.
Last 30 months of Obama admin created 6.6m jobs.
He’s rode the Obama wave and he’s about to hit the sand.
The tiny island of Cuba does not represent the entire Latino community.
Women for trump, the p***y grabber, who’s been accused of raping 17 women?
I’ve seen the women for trump audiences, all old and all white.

He’s also turned off independents.

Slowdown incoming.
Game over.

Cody montana · 25-08-2019 9:20pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Pelosi needs to be removed for dementia first. Its amazing she can string a sentence together any more.

Did she say she was the chosen one?

Cody montana · 25-08-2019 9:23pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Lowest Black unemployment rate in history. And a person who grew up in NYC the narrative that all Latinos favor illegal immigration really is fake news. They see it as a slap in the face to them to doing it the right way.

And do Tell. How has the First Official Pro Gay Marriage President [Obama doesn't get this distinction because he initially as a Traditional Marriage candidate] been horrible to the gay community?

Just because he's not filtering his message through political filters like the Democrats doesn't mean he hates them. He's treating them all equally as Americans. Isn't that what you actually want?

“The Trump administration took its hardest line yet to legalize anti-gay discrimination on Friday when it asked the Supreme Court to declare that federal law allows private companies to fire workers based only on their sexual orientation.“

You’re welcome.

Kimsang · 26-08-2019 3:02am

Cody montana wrote: »

I’ve seen the women for trump audiences, all old and all white.

I see what you did there. You used old and especially white in a derogatory sense. Shame on you.

ILoveYourVibes · 26-08-2019 3:11am

Dog Man Star wrote: »

He won the 2016 election by 75,000 votes, all of which have long gone. He will be destroyed in the 2020 election.

By the same logic though Obama only won by the same amount roughly. Trump won 75,000 votes from only three counties in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan by the same logic, Obama won in 2012 due to three counties in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

Its not how many votes he won by ...its where.

And its who is going to be the Dem candidate.

Clinton got 2.7 more votes than Trump nationwide. But in certain states she was never going to win.

Trump was "the highest vote earner of any Republican candidate ever," exceeding Bush's 62.04 million votes in 2004

I hope trump loses.

But I am not sure he is going to.

He literally insulted 80% of Jewish American a few days ago when he called them disloyal.
There was outrage.
Black voters have not switched sides as shown in the midterms.
Half a million less jobs created under trump than stated.
First 30 months of Trump admin created 5.7m jobs.
Last 30 months of Obama admin created 6.6m jobs.
He’s rode the Obama wave and he’s about to hit the sand.
The tiny island of Cuba does not represent the entire Latino community.
Women for trump, the p***y grabber, who’s been accused of raping 17 women?
I’ve seen the women for trump audiences, all old and all white.

He’s also turned off independents.

How many jews blacks gays etc do you think there are in the states?

The white population make up about 61 % of the population.

Gregor Samsa · 26-08-2019 6:34am

Sonny noggs wrote: »

If Clinton didn’t get impeached, no president ever will.

Impeachment does not mean removal from office, it merely means to be placed under investigation for alleged wrongdoings. Clinton was impeached in 1998, but was not convicted.

There’s no way Trump’s current activity will see a successful use of the 25th amendment. A 2/3s majority in both House and Senate is far too big an obstacle for that. He’s currently got a 41.6% approval rating amongst the US electorate (only 1% lower than Obama’s at the same time in office), and an approval rating of somewhere around 80% among registered Republicans (recent polls put it variously at 79%, 84% and 88%). There just isn’t the democratic mandate to allow Republicans to remove him.

To remove a US president, you need their own party to turn on them. This is not happening with Trump.

And given the mind-boggling inability for both Democrats and Republicans to find and field a viable and inspiring alternative to him, he’s fully on course to win the next election.

notobtuse · 26-08-2019 2:15pm

Apparently anger makes one stupid and the 25th Amendment won’t help you with your Trump Derangement Syndrome. The 25th Amendment is a complex law that is very hard to use by design. Its complexities, supermajority political thresholds, and essential role for the vice president are designed to be a fail-safe against a hostile takeover of the presidency.

The mechanism to remove Trump with the 25th amendment falls under Section 4, which has never been invoked. This section lets the vice president and a majority of Cabinet secretaries (“or such body as Congress may by law provide”) declare the president “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” making the vice president the “Acting President” until the president, through a complex process, is deemed fit to return to office. So if Pence sides with the president, unless the president was clearly incapacitated, it doesn’t matter what Cabinet officials or Congress thinks.

Yes, Trump is unsettling to so many people: He doesn’t ever go down the path of safe choices, polling data, focus groups, or incremental change. He’s a REAL LEADER… someone who doesn’t take no for an answer and works to make things much better than we what they are now. And it’s working... and is what is really driving the Left bat$hit crazy.

So if Trump is removed by use of the 25th amendment it will coincide with Ireland’s reunification, First Contact, and the second coming of Christ. If removal President Trump is your goal it needs to be done the old-fashioned way… at the ballot box.

threeball · 26-08-2019 2:57pm

The economy will remove Trump. All these tariffs hes placing on China, Mexico, France etc. will slow the US economy to a crawl and once that goes so does he. He arrived in the white house as the economy was climbing out of recession and jobs were increasing by the 10s of thousands. He claimed it was his doing from day one. Now that its coming to a shuddering halt its the Federal reserves fault. If the election was this November he'd probably win it but another year of his own political follies will ensure hes toast.

notobtuse · 26-08-2019 3:43pm

threeball wrote: »

The economy will remove Trump. All these tariffs hes placing on China, Mexico, France etc. will slow the US economy to a crawl and once that goes so does he. He arrived in the white house as the economy was climbing out of recession and jobs were increasing by the 10s of thousands. He claimed it was his doing from day one. Now that its coming to a shuddering halt its the Federal reserves fault. If the election was this November he'd probably win it but another year of his own political follies will ensure hes toast.

First it was Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out then it was Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. That too has quietly gone away. Now it’s China, China, China? All past presidents acknowledged China’s currency manipulation, unfair business practices and the stealing of oru intellectual property, but were too afraid to do anything about it because of the political ramifications… as they watched our nation’s jobs and security dwindled because of it. Trump is right to confront China and not continue Obama’s policy of weakness and appeasement. If Trump simply continued the Obama policies, China would grow stronger still at US expense. Nothing good ever comes easy. Trump as been trying to explain to the American people that this test of wills could cost them economically in the short run, but long term benefits will be extremely beneficial to the US. Apparently Democrats and their media minions hope the China negotiations fall through and we’re hit with a recession just to make Trump look bad... with great harm done to US citizens. They are the real actors who should be committed to the loony bin.

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:10pm

The right wing would have had marches in the Capitol if Obama had hereby ordered any American business to so much as blow its nose. It’s Amazing what republicans have devolved into.

Eric Cartman · 26-08-2019 4:14pm

Overheal wrote: »

The right wing would have had marches in the Capitol if Obama had hereby ordered any American business to so much as blow its nose. It’s Amazing what republicans have devolved into.

Obama did a lot of things they didn't like, no marches, no violence, no nothing. 2 terms with nothing but verbal and written complaints about anything. The left are the ones with a mob mentality in the US and thats the fact.

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:16pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Obama did a lot of things they didn't like, no marches, no violence, no nothing. 2 terms with nothing but verbal and written complaints about anything. The left are the ones with a mob mentality in the US and thats the fact.

So you’re absolutely clueless then. No point in engaging you on the subject so.

threeball · 26-08-2019 4:30pm

notobtuse wrote: »

First it was Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out then it was Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. That too has quietly gone away. Now it’s China, China, China? All past presidents acknowledged China’s currency manipulation, unfair business practices and the stealing of oru intellectual property, but were too afraid to do anything about it because of the political ramifications… as they watched our nation’s jobs and security dwindled because of it. Trump is right to confront China and not continue Obama’s policy of weakness and appeasement. If Trump simply continued the Obama policies, China would grow stronger still at US expense. Nothing good ever comes easy. Trump as been trying to explain to the American people that this test of wills could cost them economically in the short run, but long term benefits will be extremely beneficial to the US. Apparently Democrats and their media minions hope the China negotiations fall through and we’re hit with a recession just to make Trump look bad... with great harm done to US citizens. They are the real actors who should be committed to the loony bin.

Sorry how could I have missed it, the man is a genius. An economic mastermind playing the rest of the world like puppets. The simpleton act is just a show to put the guy on ignore while he works his magic and Makes America Great Again.

Or maybe hes just a dunce who has a silver spoon up his ass since day one and can't even take on board the idea that someone could say no to him, like the Danes turning down his request to buy Greenland.

No you're right, hes an intellectual heavyweight the likes of which the world has never seen or will again. We need to savour these moments

JohnMc1 · 26-08-2019 4:34pm

Overheal wrote: »

So you’re absolutely clueless then. No point in engaging you on the subject so.

Conservative run businesses were not refusing to serve Obama voters. Conservatives did not disrupt traffic and near riot in their cities when Obama won. And the Tea party did not wear ski masks/balaclavas and assault anyone with an Obama logo hat or anyone they assumed was an Obama supporters. And Conservatives definitely weren't "doxxing" people for wrong think.

This is the Left. The Left is the Nazis and Fascists that they claim to be against.

notobtuse · 26-08-2019 4:37pm

threeball wrote: »

Sorry how could I have missed it, the man is a genius. An economic mastermind playing the rest of the world like puppets. The simpleton act is just a show to put the guy on ignore while he works his magic and Makes America Great Again.

Or maybe hes just a dunce who has a silver spoon up his ass since day one and can't even take on board the idea that someone could say no to him, like the Danes turning down his request to buy Greenland.

No you're right, hes an intellectual heavyweight the likes of which the world has never seen or will again. We need to savour these moments

Democratic Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer praised President Trump’s decision to place tariffs on $50 billion worth of Chinese goods. Schumer noted: “China takes total advantage of the United States. They steal our intellectual property using cyber theft" “Not only do they steal our intellectual property, they keep our good companies out, and say the only way you’re going to be able to sell your American products in China … is if you come to China, make them there, and give us the techniques and intellectual property” “It’s going to take a little bit of toughness at the beginning. China will bark back. But they need us more than we need them — President Trump is right about that — and we should be strong. So I thought what he did on China is right”

In this time of political hatred of Democrats towards Trump, having Schumer praise Trumps efforts regarding China sure does seem like political genius. Please do savour these times!

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:37pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Conservative run businesses were not refusing to serve Obama voters. Conservatives did not disrupt traffic and near riot in their cities when Obama won. And the Tea party did not wear ski masks/balaclavas and assault anyone with an Obama logo hat or anyone they assumed was an Obama supporters. And Conservatives definitely weren't "doxxing" people for wrong think.

This is the Left. The Left is the Nazis and Fascists that they claim to be against.

Lots of misinformation there ^

JohnMc1 · 26-08-2019 4:40pm

Overheal wrote: »

Lots of misinformation there ^

Nope. All true. Not my fault you can't handle the truth of your side's tactics.

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:43pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Nope. All true. Not my fault you can't handle the truth of your side's tactics.

All true? 100%?

JohnMc1 · 26-08-2019 4:44pm

Overheal wrote: »

All true? 100%?

Yes. Please dislodge you head from your rectum. It's been going on since Trump won.

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:46pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Yes. Please dislodge you head from your rectum. It's been going on since Trump won.

Let the record show you’re a demonstrated liar.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/florida-doctor-opposed-healthcare-law-turns-obama-voters/story?id=10271112

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tea-party-impeach-obama_n_3421585

JohnMc1 · 26-08-2019 4:47pm

Overheal wrote: »

Let the record show you’re a demonstrated liar.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/florida-doctor-opposed-healthcare-law-turns-obama-voters/story?id=10271112

So one example is supposed to whitewash what your side is doing?

Kimsang · 26-08-2019 4:49pm

Overheal wrote: »

Let the record show you’re a demonstrated liar.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/florida-doctor-opposed-healthcare-law-turns-obama-voters/story?id=10271112

Crazy loons under Obama: 1
Crazy loons under Trump: Nearly entire democratic party.

Its not exactly an even score.

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:50pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

So one example is supposed to whitewash what your side is doing?

“My side?”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tea-party-impeach-obama_n_3421585

You said your statement was “100% correct.” It is not. You’re a liar.

JohnMc1 · 26-08-2019 4:52pm

Overheal wrote: »

“My side?”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tea-party-impeach-obama_n_3421585

You said your statement was “100% correct.” It is not. You’re a liar.

LOL@ huffington post. You really are desperate to save your side.

And Yes I did say your side. You clearly are on the Left.

bmc58 · 26-08-2019 4:53pm

Dog Man Star wrote: »

The 25th amendment to the US constitution rules that if the current President can no longer continue his role due to death, resignation or in Trump's case "inability".

Trump is most certainly "unable to discharge his duties" now. His inability to remember what he said the day before. His slurring of words and his total addiction to fentanyl. Constant sniffing, lack of sleep, manic depressive episodes.

64% of Americans say Trump is worthless. Trump's approval has never broken 50%, a record in US politics.

Is it time to eject Trump from office for his total lack of skill or experience to do the job?

Robert Mueller told us that arrest is waiting for Trump when he leaves the White House. Trump will die in jail post indictment, as his friends Manafort and Stone. It must be some predicament to get voted out of the White House and get handcuffed on the same day. That is what Trump is facing.

I think for many Americans who voted for D Trump the chickens are coming home to roost.He has destroyed the status of the US.Now a rescession is just round the corner for the US people are begining to think is Donald Trump a good fit for four more years.He will totally ruin the US with his bully boy tactics.And his maniac rantings on Twitter are beneath such a prestigious office.The man is an egomaniac and totally unstable.Look at his insulting behaviour to an "ally" Denmark last week.Unbelievable from a head of state.

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:54pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

LOL@ huffington post. You really are desperate to save your side.

And Yes I did say your side. You clearly are on the Left.

No point engaging with a flagrant liar. “lULz nEwS I DOnT liKe is FaKe”

Kimsang · 26-08-2019 4:56pm

Overheal wrote: »

No point engaging with a flagrant liar. “lULz nEwS I DOnT liKe is FaKe”

Regarding the news story you posted about the doctor who wouldn't allow democrats as patients after Obama was elected;

Would you dispute the abundance of stories of this ilk since Trump has been elected? Not only refusing entry, but actively shouting and abusing people they regard as Trump supporters.

Overheal · 26-08-2019 4:59pm

Kimsang wrote: »

Regarding the news story you posted about the doctor who wouldn't allow democrats as patients after Obama was elected;

Would you dispute the abundance of stories of this ilk since Trump has been elected? Not only refusing entry, but actively shouting and abusing people they regard as Trump supporters.

It’s not a whataboutism for me: a liar lied about this never happening when the tables were turned, I corrected the record. Do I dispute news as fact? No. Have MAGAts been refused entry places: absolutely. That’s not a comment on whether I agree with any of it, that’s just hashing out of facts vs. misinformation that liars want to peddle around here. People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts.

JohnMc1 · 26-08-2019 4:59pm

Overheal wrote: »

No point engaging with a flagrant liar. “lULz nEwS I DOnT liKe is FaKe”

You constantly lie about your own side. Practice what preach.

JohnMc1 · 26-08-2019 5:00pm

Overheal wrote: »

It’s not a whataboutism for me: a liar lied about this never happening when the tables were turned, I corrected the record. Do I dispute news as fact? No. Have MAGAts been refused entry places: absolutely. That’s not a comment on whether I agree with any of it, that’s just hashing out of facts vs. misinformation that liars want to peddle around here. People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts.

One incident does not make me a liar. Keep crying. That's all your good for.

Trump and the 25th amendment

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