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Clue: A 13 player Murder Mystery game.
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If i dont get on in the AM and die as i expect, id go for Hello 2d.
After that Sully.
I have a weird feeling about Ecto too. She is interactions immune for Friday and today unfortunately. BUT total interactions for D1 - D2 are also very low. 3 one way and 1 the other. So definitely a candidate imo.
I want to believe QB is village but cant shake the feeling of a buss.
Think thats my thoughts though
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Since qb has been more active I’m losing wolfy vibes from her for sure.If i dont get on in the AM and die as i expect, id go for Hello 2d.
After that Sully.
I have a weird feeling about Ecto too. She is interactions immune for Friday and today unfortunately. BUT total interactions for D1 - D2 are also very low. 3 one way and 1 the other. So definitely a candidate imo.
I want to believe QB is village but cant shake the feeling of a buss.
Think thats my thoughts though
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Right so here's some of GnR's ISO - I've tried to pick out the good bits but feel free to have a look yourselves.Agreed, was expecting him to show up last minute
Necros switching votes is wolfie IMO
So immediately post no lynch he's on to shading me. He knows he's made too big a deal out of the simultaneous votes and needs to try and dump some shade.BH, can you explain this? You seem to be saying here that we need to watch that inactive players are not voting but then you go and don’t vote?
It’s beyond strange, if I was the FBI guy this is where my inspection would be
The next morning he's shading BH now, trying to steer the FBI check onto him. Now if Bounty is a wolf he could do this and easily have the third wolf do the munching in case FBI listens.
Though I think it's just steering tbh.
Most of day 1 is spent toing and froing with Baggly, there isn't much in terms of reads its just defensiveness so I've skipped it - this is the next interesting post. Could be some gold here.
He posts not an FFA, but a reads listBH - it feels like they have been after me hard, but no vote here which is weird! Almost like they were putting the heat on me but had Clara lined up, if people had moved to me they would have too. F**k it, purely on the basis of Necro vetoing me I’d have voted me. I’ll be keeping my eye here
Necro- I wanta see some wagonomics outta this guy todau, I know we haven’t found a wolf, and everyone seems weirdly ok with that, but let’s face it your either going to be munched or lynched soon, if your not a wolf the wolves will munch you, otherwise we’ll habe to lynch you in case you are. One of my strongest village feels, I don’t think he’d be as ballsy to go low posting whilst a wolf. Also - really appreciate the low posting
2D- is 2D a man 2D or a girl 2D would be my first question? I find their posting style weird to say the least. They said there was reasons behind it in the last game but I died early, doesn’t explain why they’re at it here. Despite that weird
Stuff I’m villaging here
Baggly- straight up think bags is a wolf, I get that he’s done great work with his spreadsheet but that’s a tactic IMO. Baggly doesn’t bus people but he does do lots of “village” work
Tusk/Paw - really impressed that paw took the time to read the whole thread, like really. Consider myself pocketed for that alone. Tusk was his usual manic self with the voting and the accusation. Almost certain they’re village
Sulli - a teacher I think? Lots of people have said how she’s not round to post much but she’s never gone postal over them saying that? I would have lost the plot with that accusation but then I’m defensive. Sully is one of these people I struggle to get a read on. If she’s a wolf would I be surprised? No
Vale - another blind spot for me, can’t think of anything they’ve done that’s pulsed me either way, MEH
Ecto - like myself, high on FFAs but she has no vote? Weird. BUT I do think she’s village
QB - UNBELIEVABLY quiet, this is a new QB, has a post there about how meta her play is. And I’d almost believe her, almost. Part of a three person dream team
Duff - my favourite for a wolf, has just been that bit off, poking in here and there without actually doing anything constructive, gets in little scuffles without ever really getting dirty, had there been a vote there yet? Just checked, didn’t think so
Right so I've bolded the two I find interesting here. On the face of it, it does look like GnR has lots to say about 2D but just read it. There's no substance to it whatsoever.
Same with Ecto. Some blather about FFAs, and a village read. If Vale wasn't flipped I lock him wolf off this post tbh, it's just so blah but in a way it's good that's narrowed down.Thanks!
My #FFA3 or #3FFA would read
Duffers
Baggly
QB
At the moment with a side of BH
The only FFA of GnR's I can find. See how he's pushing QB to the front here? That starts to steamroll today now.
On top of that he names his munch target here pre-munch, so his plan for the day is plain to go after Baggly and QB. I don't think he names a wolf on his FFA with the knowledge duffers is gonna die and flip village.From your table I’ve yet to interact with Duffers but he is my strongest wolf read and currently where my vote would be
You want something concrete
You said yesterday that your table would lead us to a killer, I’m flat out accusing you of providing data that’s useless. I pointed to a previous game where YOU claimed it led to a wolf. The truth was the seer led you to me being a wolf, I accused QB and you guys killed her. YOU ignored your own data and now with no way of knowing you’re saying that same data would have led you to my wolf buddies? But st the same time you didn’t lynch either of them after that?
So yes, I’m calling BS on your helpfulness, this is what wolf Baggly does
And what’s more - the fact QB hasn’t been all over you is even more dodge, she’s your wolf buddy
Again, arguing with Baggly over the data - there's definitely something in it that he doesn't want people to look at.
Final line also pushing QB as a wolf again.I have stated this a flaw of mine in previous games, I could go whole games and not interact with someone. For further proof I don’t believe I’ve interacted with Ecto, 2D or Vale at all this game. That’s half the roster
Like I say it’s something I do all the time and I know it. If i was a wolf you can be sure I’d have gone out of my way to interact with everyone after I posted this yesterday, I didn’t, purely cause I didn’t feel I had to
More interaction talk and I reckon this could be a crazy soft defence. He's got player salad in there and Vale is now flipped.
Am I crazy thinking he'd name the full team there as a defence for not talking or interacting with them? With a side of another low poster there for some nice shade.32 viewing and no one posting
Obviously glad to have the noose around my neck
This post is just bizarre. I read it now and wonder if it was meant for the wolf room. It's just so out of place. He had no votes at this time....??It seems to me that Sully is coming around to my way of thinking!
No harm but what you’ve posted looks like a logical progression over the course of a game
You’re way too calm QB
Wolfie calm
Later in the day and back on QB being a wolf. Pushing the idea to sully - interesting words here - logical progression. Sully voted GnR on Day 1???
I think he's trying to pocket sully here if I'm honest.Lads I have been banging this drum for a while but QB is a feckin wolf
Stone cold
Another run at QB - yeah I just don't feel this as a team tbh. The language re: QB is a bit harsh, I just don't think this is staged tbh. He's trying to pull a villager or two onto her here for cover, imo anyways.
Right so there's feck all from him then post munch we have an absolute flurry of activity when Pawwed diesWTFWell that makes no sense, it’s just narrowing where we lookBaggly any news?Necro, you pocketing POS, you absolute Mofo
When you see it now it’s so obvious
How the f**k could I have fallen for the veto, I’m a moron, Jesus Christ
Even last nite when I was trying to work it out I had you in the good pile
1, 2, 3, 4 posts in rapid succession immediately trying to force the lynch onto me. It's all soooo staged. He knew exactly what was gonna happen here and just forced this way too early, as I said.Remember I said I put myself in the shoes of a wolf to try and figure it out
So imagine I’m a wolf, I kill Baggly, I don’t want to narrow the pool of suspects, do that and wolf team probably wins
There’s only one player who that isn’t good for, and that’s Necro, there’s posts there from Baggly saying lynch Necro
So wolf Necro does the only thing that he can, he scrambles, tries to cause chaos by leaving Baggly alive
We talked about the panic yesterday but when did it start? It started when the two votes went on BH, only then, FFS we should have known, and there was Necro orchestrating the whole thing, with his vote on himself while he got the troops organised
See it's all planned out there for us, only switching me and BH in for him and the other plotters. Thanks for clearing that up GnR. Lol.Necro and BH are two wolves
Going by the voting yesterday probably QB too but I’d have to look at the earlier patterns to confirm that. They controlled it like a puppet on a string yesterday
Again forces this - yesterday QB was a 'stone cold' wolf. But now we're locked down?I would have been in favour of a no lynch today but there’s no point now, now Baggly is munched and the three wolves can just sow discontent, try and hide one
Trying to force the lynch again, he just pushed it too hard early doors.Hilarious
I’d be fairly certain I’m on a team with 2D alright, he’s the one that started all the confusion yesterday by calling out the same bandwagon that was on Clara as being the same one as on Vale yesterday
Bolded part is great, I think he was kinda gloating here thinking I was a definite mislynch. He's also basically pushing the same argument 2D has been pushing all game here, 'those guys were definite villagers hurdy hur, I knew this but let them die anyways'For future reference BH - this was a misstep, I’d have figured it out anyway I think but this post was rehearsed in your head, a couple of minutes after the announcement and you have the wolf excuse ready to go
And here he doubles down on BH, he turns his attention away from me weirdly and focuses on Bounty, he's pushing his exact plan and his posting pattern post Pawwed munch onto Bounty.
So the only mention of Ecto comes where he village reads her based off minimal interaction.
The only time he mentions 2D before today is in the same post, again a village read.
This is the wolf team, I'm 99% convinced0 -
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Right so 2D.... I'm pretty convinced they're a wolf here but I wanted to run through their posts anyways.
Day 1:Deleted User wrote: »Sorry girls and germs I was out for dindins with the mammy.
No consensus? We just paddling our own canoe tonight?
Meh. Looking for a consensus lynch. The only reason I'm really quoting this is because of their later behaviour in berating people who lynched the person who was well... the consensus lynch.
Day 2Deleted User wrote: »Ahhhh, the two enigmas of the last game collide. BH totally hoodwinked me, wasn't on my radar at all and to this day I still scratch my head about how you (GnR) played that game. I was cracking that we lost a villager (with essentially two lives) but had no regrets voting as it was based on evidence of how you played the game rather than a hunch.
And yes Ecto, it's out of reach of my comprehension anyway.
This is interesting as 2D directly responds to GnR here. It's a very safe way to respond to him though, there's not really anything there re: suspiciousness.
A little mention of Ecto there... I have to ask myself does a first time wolf mention both their buddies like this in an off-key manner? It's probably the easiest way to get some form of interaction - this is BEFORE Baggly produces his interactions stuff.
2D is gone then, pops back in here and there but this is a fairly robust response...Deleted User wrote: »Page after page of absolute waffle, utter bluster.
I read a couple of pages of jibberish, then a few pages later somebody is analysing it, combing through it like the State pathologist.
BH was spot on, people name someone and then give lamentable reasons instead of just saying 'just a hunch'. I'm then supposed to take their balderdash seriously, and then come in and offer my nonsense reply to said balderdash, adding to the big balderdash bonfire.
Maybe I'll understand it the more I play these games but it's perplexing to me.
Clarabel is TOO wolfy - safe.
'Chill' Necro and his 'veto' gimmick, TOO wolfy - safe.
Baggly is handy to have the around for the graphs and stats - safe.
If I had a multi-sided coin I'd flip it between the rest of ye. I'll be on a laptop this evening so I'll try wade through that swamp of bilge that has made up 7/8s of this thread.
Ok so this is the start of his 'defence' of his top villager - Clara... TOO wolfy. Hmmm. Not exactly convincing. Mentions me and Baggly as his villagers as well.
The next post is interesting. He picks out a random GnR post from about 4 hrs previous (again like before the munch of Lough) and gives an in-depth response.Deleted User wrote: »Maybe it's the previous game lingering in my head, and I'm trying not to let it, but I can't fathom you. You're playing this game much different. You were in a super strong position last time and made a pigs ear of it. Jeckyll and Hyde. A lot of your early posts were asking for answers that were obvious. Seemed like fodder.
I'm also not sure of your 'framing' rationale here. It'd be a truly wretched attempt to frame Clarabel given her back and forth with LoughC prior to lynch. Far too obvious. I don't think anyone has mentioned "LoughC was killed last night after that back and forth with Clarabel" as a reason for lynching Clarabel tonight.
I'm continuing my wade through the bilge. This just stood out for some reason. As I say, maybe it's the last game ringing in me ears.
Hard defense of Clara, some more substance at least this time.
A lot of it though is talking about the last game, I'm not even sure if GnR ever responds to either accusation - but at this point he hasn't voted.
I think he's looking for a reason here to jump on something... and low and behold....Deleted User wrote: »Not even Det. Joe Kenda could pick apart those 40-odd pages. If someone has picked up something out of that, fairest of ****s to ye.
I was pig-headed and too linear in the last game and it got me nowhere. Vote changed to GnR.
Boom - he votes GnR - out of absolutely nowhere. He mentioned prior that he would likely still be voting sully, but this is a sudden about turn not really explained in the slightest. It's a really bad look tbh.
He's gone again then till post lynch and the captain hindsight routine begins.Deleted User wrote: »I'm still perplexed by lynching Clarabel given what happened last night.
Fine, understandable post I guessDeleted User wrote: »At least we know it wasn't a double-bluff I suppose which is something to work off.
Kinda contradictory here though. *Shrugs*Deleted User wrote: »If Clarabel was a wolf there's no way LoughC would have been killed.
Again, flipping and flopping.Deleted User wrote: »I did point it out. I also said her, Necro and Baggly were out of bounds for me tonight. I probably could have been a bit more vocal about, that'd be a fair criticism.
Yep, you did tbf.Deleted User wrote: »I be a feller, GnR.
The reason I'm low posting is because I'm trying to add something of substance instead of just adding to the heap. There's too many people posting utter drivel and then saying "hey, look at me, I'm posting a lot and trying to help the village". I grew into the last game when the numbers decreased and there was less **** to sift through. Again, maybe that's something I'll cope with better with experience.
Clarabel last night is a good example. She has been front and centre from the getgo with lots of post, people have meticulously combed through said posts and somehow were convinced that she was the wolfiest. People are taking monotonous posts and making them a big deal. She was this games Choc Chip for me - the one I trusted most.
How experienced players deduced that she was the biggest threat last night is a touch suspicious to me.
This is quite shady, it's trying to poke at the experienced players re: Clara. Again, it's just talking about a dead player though, there's no reads or anything tbh.Deleted User wrote: »I still refuse to believe that four experienced players would vote for Clarabel with good grace and actually believe she's a wolf. I think there's at least one wolf hiding there.
Same thing again but at least they push forward about wolf hunting in that pack of 4 I guess.Deleted User wrote: »I'm resolutely against lynching Valeyard based on the paltry evidence provided.
I see Clarabels hangmen are all loosening the noose for Valeyard too.
Baggly and Necro are all over the shop, like dandelions in the breeze.
My lynch nomination will Baggly, BH or Necro.
Meh. And the defence of Vale begins. Doesn't really discuss the evidence, just starts defending him.Deleted User wrote: »You lynched the one person I trusted. You read the game horribly. You've now switched to Valeyard for absolutely no reason. Yer reason may as well be poems. Utter hogwash.
Maybe Baggly is the FBI. May someone else is and are keeping their powder dry for whatever reason. One thing though, there's no way experienced players read the game so abysmally with regards to Clarabel.
There's a wolf among ye.
First part is nonsensical, nowhere in any of his posts does he state this. Further defence of Vale. Very very easy to defend a villager when you know they're going to flip that way. Have done it myself as a wolf.Deleted User wrote: »Again, I think this is my third time addressing this. I made it clear she was one of the people off my table yesterday. I should have been more vocal and defensive of her, I cannot disagree with that. It's a fair criticism.
Which is why I'm gonna dig my heels in on Valeyard today unless one of you can come up with even a half-witted reason.
It's amazing that even though I don't post much, people still don't pay attention when I do.
I'm paying attention now, 2D. And all you're doing is talking in circles.Deleted User wrote: »You or Necro.
Leaning towards you because if Valeyard is lynched tonight and is village, Necro will have lynched himself.
I'm putting Baggly to the side for now given their currently unchallenged claim. Nope.Deleted User wrote: »Ecto is an odd one alright. Any time I see her post it seems to be about how wolfy I am.
Anyway, I've been honest and consistent about thinking there's a wolf among the Clarabel voters.
Once again doubling down on wolf in Clara voters. Slight mention of Ecto. Not sure what to make of it. Must check Ecto's day 1 posts.Deleted User wrote: »Words are secondary to me at this stage. An awful lot of misdirection going on all around. It was your actions in voting to lynch Clarabel that shot you up my list.
I am resolute in voting for you or Necro. I'm not moving off the two of ye today.
Yawn. Same again. Waffle about misdirection and defending Vale again.Deleted User wrote: »I have nothing to add. I've said I'm not stirring off BH or Necro. Words are secondary to me for now. The action of lynching Clarabel takes precedence for me. I think there's at least one wolf in that group.
I've put you to the side based on your unchallenged claim.
Basically the same post just worded differently.Deleted User wrote: »I'm aghast.
If Vale turns green, BH and/or Necro is a wolf. These two pushed vociferously for Clarabel despite her quite clearly not being a wolf when LoughC departed us. Now they're leading the charge on Vale based on the square root of nothing.
I think Necro has covered every permutation so he can say "Told ya so" no matter the outcome.
Again, defense of Vale. So very very convinced. Too much so, imo.Deleted User wrote: »I'm still with ya Vale. *hugs*
Bleh... such a pockety post.Deleted User wrote: »Nah. Claim seems sound.
Finally accepts Bagglys claim.Deleted User wrote: »How on this planet or any other one is Necro not at least in your top three?
Anyone trying to swerve away from Necro is going on my list.
Him and BH are pissing into the wind, they haven't a clue. They've ****ed up the village the last two nights.
Responds to QB I think putting up a list of players. Interesting they didn't then post for the entire day today??Deleted User wrote: »Well given that BH and Necro were top of my list before lynch and neither got lynched...Deleted User wrote: »I can't wait to see all the post match stats, graphs and interactions.Deleted User wrote: »I've done pretty alright.
These three posts just read as gloating to me tbh. As I said, I think 2D and GnR played their hand far too early. It's about finding the third for me now.Deleted User wrote: »I was right about Clarabel which everyone should have been. Four experienced players lynching her thinking she's a wolf when LoughC dies after their back and forth.
I was right about Valeyard because your reasoning was non-existent.
Hardly makes me Joe Kenda. Fairly rudimentary reading of the game.
More gloating. Lol. Easy to say these things when you know the answers. Seriously over-egging the pudding re: Clara now.Deleted User wrote: »I'm not gloaty, I'm hoping people will actually listen to me for a change instead of swooning over you and BH when there's no evidence that ye are on the right path. Ye have us where we are.
Grand, maybe they would.... but you vanish for the day shortly after this. Why is that exactly??Deleted User wrote: »None of the others voted to lynch Clarabel. That for me is number one issue. I've said it since, I think there's a wolf in there. Four of ye voted. One is dead, the other is FBI.
As QB said, there was a major swing away from Necro yesterday. He even voted to lynch himself during his 'woe is me' routine.
With the benefight of Necro's favourite word, there was no concerned effort to save Vale. There was one to save Necro.
So you say, yet the effort to save Necro was orchestrated by.... well, Necro ie myself. What can I say, I'm convincing. I'm also a villager.
And absolutely nothing post munch till this - post lynch.Deleted User wrote: »Oioi Playboy. Was just in to lynch BH and I did the sums.
I'm off again for a bit.
Sounds like he's given up tbh.0 -
Necro: I’d agree they seem to have gotten a bit over confident yesterday, thinking it was already in the bag. That said they only need 1 and I’m not sure who the final wolf is
2D: got Bobby in my fantasy team so I’m sure you’re relieved about that
and Mane for that matter, good win even though it may have been expected vs Burnley.
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