Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

selectamatic

Say my name wrote: »

€7100 2006 Mercedes E220 not running.

Odelay wrote: »

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What the fcuk??? Just how??

They're has to be something more to this?

Are ya sure it was 06?
Scrap value would genuinely be plenty for it.

weatherbyfoxer

DBK1 wrote: »

The Massey Ferguson is a Fella rake. If you’re not going to be doing a massive amount of contracting with it there’d be nothing wrong with it but it wouldn’t be in the same league at all as the Krone or Claas. If you’ve to money to buy new I don’t think €2,000 is enough of a reduction relative to the Krone to persuade me to go for the MF. There would also be a much better trade in value on the Krone or Claas in a few years time of it was a machine you were going to update. .

As regards strength the Claas and Krone would be fairly equal and top of the pile over all other makes I’d say. The are both a lot wider on the road than the Fella/MF will be so depending on the roads you’re travelling this could be an issue. Some of the Claas rakes are 10 foot wide which is very wide on the road with the water cuts being an issue if you’re meeting someone on a narrow road.

the krone is actually the narrowest of them all at a shade over 8ft..massey is 9ft and claas is 9ft6...have had a loan of a friends Claas 660 rake for a few days there st the start of the week and at 9ft4 at the axel i wouldnt fancy going much wider

DBK1

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

the krone is actually the narrowest of them all at a shade over 8ft..massey is 9ft and claas is 9ft6...have had a loan of a friends Claas 660 rake for a few days there st the start of the week and at 9ft4 at the axel i wouldnt fancy going much wider

I think the TC640 has width adjustment too? If so and it was me buying at them prices I’d definitely be going with the Krone. They’re a strong well built machine, they hold they’re value very well in the second hand market and at that track width or will be by far the nicest machine to pull. The 9ft6 width of the Claas is very wide especially if being pulled be a small 80 or 90hp tractor.

I’ve a 2016 Kuhn 7501, about an 8 foot track width too. We’ve the back axle adjusted so that the left wheel is exactly following the left wheel of the tractor. We find that the best setup for meeting traffic on the road as you can keep in as far as possible with the tractor and know that the rake is not going to be in the water cuts behind you.

The Kuhn is a good rake too but not able to rake the ground as cleanly as a Krone or Claas without travelling at a slower forward speed. Whenever I’ll be changing it will be either a Krone or Pottinger I’ll be going for. I’ve seen the Pottinger working at an open day 2 years ago and was very impressed with it.

Grueller

selectamatic wrote: »

They're has to be something more to this?

Are ya sure it was 06?
Scrap value would genuinely be plenty for it.

Car is as clean as a whistle. 06 E220 CDI. It is not running and I don't know the problem but my mechanic looked her over for a lad and says he could get it up and running for about €800

Reggie.

DBK1 wrote: »

I think the TC640 has width adjustment too? If so and it was me buying at them prices I’d definitely be going with the Krone. They’re a strong well built machine, they hold they’re value very well in the second hand market and at that track width or will be by far the nicest machine to pull. The 9ft6 width of the Claas is very wide especially if being pulled be a small 80 or 90hp tractor.

I’ve a 2016 Kuhn 7501, about an 8 foot track width too. We’ve the back axle adjusted so that the left wheel is exactly following the left wheel of the tractor. We find that the best setup for meeting traffic on the road as you can keep in as far as possible with the tractor and know that the rake is not going to be in the water cuts behind you.

The Kuhn is a good rake too but not able to rake the ground as cleanly as a Krone or Claas without travelling at a slower forward speed. Whenever I’ll be changing it will be either a Krone or Pottinger I’ll be going for. I’ve seen the Pottinger working at an open day 2 years ago and was very impressed with it.

Only thing is with the krone 640 is that its too small for contractors so your limiting your possible resale customers also I think there's no steering axle on the 640

Limestone Cowboy

Reggie. wrote: »

Only thing is with the krone 640 is that its too small for contractors so your limiting your possible resale customers also I think there's no steering axle on the 640

You'd want the steering axle anyway.

weatherbyfoxer

Reggie. wrote: »

Only thing is with the krone 640 is that its too small for contractors so your limiting your possible resale customers also I think there's no steering axle on the 640

the steering axel is included in the price above,adds about 1000 onto in,would be all balers i row up for at the moment anyway..its a hard one to call.

davidk1394

I have a Kuhn 6501. Grand machine. If I was buying again, I would buy a Claas 2700. All the baler contractors around me have them. They are a good machine with a good resale value

weatherbyfoxer

davidk1394 wrote: »

I have a Kuhn 6501. Grand machine. If I was buying again, I would buy a Claas 2700. All the baler contractors around me have them. They are a good machine with a good resale value

i see a 2016 6501 for sale in one of the TFM garages..looks to be very clean and well priced..interesting looking machine being smaller and lower than the rest of the machine on the market

cute geoge

kuhn are a very light rake compared to claas not suitable for big acres at contracting

Morris Moss

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

i see a 2016 6501 for sale in one of the TFM garages..looks to be very clean and well priced..interesting looking machine being smaller and lower than the rest of the machine on the market

TFM and well priced is rare, you'd want to have a good look at it if you were interested.

weatherbyfoxer

Morris Moss wrote: »

TFM and well priced is rare, you'd want to have a good look at it if you were interested.

maybe so..have be across a fair bit of the country to look at supposedly "mint" machines over the past 2 weeks

kevthegaff

How do you take out the lock in my Murphy's trailer, cant find the key and it's not great anyway

davidk1394

cute geoge wrote: »

kuhn are a very light rake compared to claas not suitable for big acres at contracting

I wouldn't say they are lighter I just think the claas makes a nicer row at a faster speed. It's also easier adjust too. The shaft attaching the guide wheels for the rotor snapped off on the road. Further investigation showed it was bad welding. Kuhn covered cost for a new shaft on either side.

I wouldn't like a fast tractor on a rake. A 1394 works our one and a fast driver is usually the cause of most cracks and bends on a rake.

DBK1

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

maybe so..have be across a fair bit of the country to look at supposedly "mint" machines over the past 2 weeks

I see McCullagh Machinery have a 2013 Claas 2600 for sale too. Could be worth a phone call anyway. Nothing comes out of that place unless it’s virtually as good as new.

weatherbyfoxer

DBK1 wrote: »

I see McCullagh Machinery have a 2013 Claas 2600 for sale too. Could be worth a phone call anyway. Nothing comes out of that place unless it’s virtually as good as new.

was on to them earlier..€16300 inc vat for it..madness altogether

Odelay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ1ha7LJH1M


Thought the silage pit roller was interesting. 3ft diameter railway wheels, spaced apart and weighing 5 ton. Looks to have made a good job of compacting the pit. Could even be too heavy if such a thing could happen.

wrangler

Odelay wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ1ha7LJH1M


Thought the silage pit roller was interesting. 3ft diameter railway wheels, spaced apart and weighing 5 ton. Looks to have made a good job of compacting the pit. Could even be too heavy if such a thing could happen.

The tractor would be heavier, probably 6 ton on four 15 inch wheels compared with 5ton an 10ft wide

Odelay

wrangler wrote: »

The tractor would be heavier, probably 6 ton on four 15 inch wheels compared with 5ton an 10ft wide

I think your calculations are too simplistic, the roller is 10ft wide, but because the sections are spaced, the pressure is far greater.

Each roller is 4 inches wide x10 = 40 inches. Divide by 5 ton = 1 ton per 8 inches.

Tractor is 4x15 inch wheels = 60 inches. Divide by 6 ton = 1 ton per 10 inches.

So more weight per inch width. Then there is also the surface area, the roller has a smaller diameter wheel, so less wheel length over the area, is increased pressure. Then there is also the advantage of the flange on the rollers, each one is say 1 inch, if the wheel didn't bottom out (impossible but the flange certainly will have more pressure on the leading edge and there has to be merit to that), that would be 10x1 inch flange, =10 inches,Divide by 5, = 1 ton per 2 inches. Far better than the tractor at 1 ton per 8 inches.


I don't see how a tractor can push down more ppressure

josephsoap

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/28347977

Ya wouldn’t want to strong of a bullock going in this yolk.

Albert Johnson

josephsoap wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/28347977

Ya wouldn’t want to strong of a bullock going in this yolk.

There's worse yolks on the road in fairness, it would be alright for a few sheep or similar light work. I've come across some real chicken houses at the marts, you wouldn't put a dog into them never mind stock.

There was a dealer used to come a right distance every week (nearly 100 mile) with a bad car and trailer. He arrived this particular evening with the back of the saloon car nearly turned into a hatchback. The hitch and ball were well worn and the trailer had came off a few times during the trip, he had a heavy chain on it and it used to run into the back of the car when it unhitched.

When it near time to go home he pulled the rig onto a flat spot in the yard and produced a wheel brace. He proceeded to take the front tires off the trailer and turned it into a single axle. When he loaded his stock it put a good deal of the weight on the hitch and therefore it wouldn't stir on the return journey.

have2flushtwice

Albert Johnson wrote: »

There's worse yolks on the road in fairness, it would be alright for a few sheep or similar light work. I've come across some real chicken houses at the marts, you wouldn't put a dog into them never mind stock.

There was a dealer used to come a right distance every week (nearly 100 mile) with a bad car and trailer. He arrived this particular evening with the back of the saloon car nearly turned into a hatchback. The hitch and ball were well worn and the trailer had came off a few times during the trip, he had a heavy chain on it and it used to run into the back of the car when it unhitched.

When it near time to go home he pulled the rig onto a flat spot in the yard and produced a wheel brace. He proceeded to take the front tires off the trailer and turned it into a single axle. When he loaded his stock it put a good deal of the weight on the hitch and therefore it wouldn't stir on the return journey.

you could only admire his skills for solving a problem.

have2flushtwice

I've a small ride on roller. it's 1.2 ton, a bomag bw90.
i burst a pipe going to the front drum and it leaked a bit.
pipe replaced, oil level looked ok so I didnt top it up.
when I checked it after it didn't go below the bottom pipe from the tank.

it started and drove about 50 metres and both front and rear drums lost all power.

engine starts fine.
revs fine.
oil is topped up.
fwd reverse linkage to the pump is fine.
the steering works on rams - they are fine.
it goes for a minute and then won't go at all. so it's inconsistent or intermittent.
the pump is whining when in drive. there a a lot of vibration coming to the drive pipe.
the hydraulic oil is gone frothy which looks like air?
i loosened the pipes (just a turn) which were replacex and oil came out. I didn't notice any air.
could it be airlocked?
i can't see and bleed valves.
i had to tow it back up to the yard and it drive a bit. when I took off the tow chain I could move it enough to park it but couldn't move it after that.
i tried to jog it back and forth but it didn't get going again.

any ideas?

have2flushtwice

have2flushtwice wrote: »

I've a small ride on roller. it's 1.2 ton, a bomag bw90.
i burst a pipe going to the front drum and it leaked a bit.
pipe replaced, oil level looked ok so I didnt top it up.
when I checked it after it didn't go below the bottom pipe from the tank.

it started and drove about 50 metres and both front and rear drums lost all power.

engine starts fine.
revs fine.
oil is topped up.
fwd reverse linkage to the pump is fine.
the steering works on rams - they are fine.
it goes for a minute and then won't go at all. so it's inconsistent or intermittent.
the pump is whining when in drive. there a a lot of vibration coming to the drive pipe.
the hydraulic oil is gone frothy which looks like air?
i loosened the pipes (just a turn) which were replacex and oil came out. I didn't notice any air.
could it be airlocked?
i can't see and bleed valves.
i had to tow it back up to the yard and it drive a bit. when I took off the tow chain I could move it enough to park it but couldn't move it after that.
i tried to jog it back and forth but it didn't get going again.

any ideas?

Is it vibrating?


Deos the engine cut out or is it just not driving

have2flushtwice

the vibrator works fine.
engine doenst cut out at all.
it will tick over all day long.
the problem is somewhere in the hydraulics

have2flushtwice

have2flushtwice wrote: »

the vibrator works fine.
engine doenst cut out at all.
it will tick over all day long.
the problem is somewhere in the hydraulics

I know we got plauged with seat switches at times,but maybe thats not it,as this cause cut out

If its not cutting out/stalling its hardly the park brake then either?


Their just a hyd motor and pump like,id be keeping at the forward/reverse linkage,its hardly doing something funny/stupid there?


Other than that,make sure you have oil to/from every drum.motor....dave power plant near youghal are fairly sound...they used sell em and would give a good pointers

zetecescort

just a guess and would be a bit of a coincidence to only show after you worked on it but is it after damaging the key drive on the pump, only catching now and again?

kevthegaff

Who make the best dump trailers lads?

Grueller

kevthegaff wrote: »

Who make the best dump trailers lads?

Neighbour has a near 30 year old hereon that has taken some ignorance off of him in its life time. That is the only experience I have of them.
The new broughans look good.

have2flushtwice

Deleted User wrote: »

I know we got plauged with seat switches at times,but maybe thats not it,as this cause cut out

If its not cutting out/stalling its hardly the park brake then either?


Their just a hyd motor and pump like,id be keeping at the forward/reverse linkage,its hardly doing something funny/stupid there?


Other than that,make sure you have oil to/from every drum.motor....dave power plant near youghal are fairly sound...they used sell em and would give a good pointers

there a no park brake on it. I checked the linkage and all seems fine. the roaring from.the pump is a concern. there a no seat switch. just put a new seat in it a few hours before and no wiring down there.
Dave power are brilliant. I bought new drum mounts from then a few weeks back.
there's no rocks or stones caught in the drum either.