Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

Reggie. · 02-07-2021 11:02am

Morris Moss wrote: »

Shoe is supposed to put the slurry onto the ground better and can spread on heavier covers, that's the sales pitch anyway, the difference in price wasn't huge either.

Feck all difference in the 2 only the trailing shoe is a bastard to block

zetecescort · 02-07-2021 8:09pm

have2flushtwice wrote: »

well my attempts at a one handed video and demo weren't successful!
i took out the hydraulic filter last night and washed with diesel and airline. messy job but it was worth a try. put it back in and she drive for a few yards stopping and starting, but you couldn't go any distance before the pump would be roaring under pressure.
i took out a sample of the hydraulic oil and it was fair watery looking.i had only topped it up after the leak and it hasn't ran 30 mins since then.
i pumped the hydraulic tank empty and have a new filter to go into it with new oil.

apologies if I've missed it but any update on the roller?

westlander · 02-07-2021 9:30pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Last purchase for a while.

Well wear

Aska · 02-07-2021 11:45pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Jcb have a backlog of orders running thru next year apparently. Taking on a good share of staff in the factories. Don't think there will be any drop in prices for a while...

Broughan's the same, Donohues told me today that it would be next year before a Dump & Silage trailer could be got.

Even the local Scania garage priced a new truck in late may and told me it would Feb at the earliest, so scrap that. The goods just ain't coming in quick enough so prices will stay static if not rise in the coming months,

Albert Johnson · 03-07-2021 12:44am

I saw a Hilux jeep and flatbed trailer combination on the road today with a goose neck hitch as opposed to the normal bumper mounted ball and towbar. Is there a reason those sort of setups aren't more popular over here? Surely it would be a lot better and safer to have the tongue weight of the trailer directly over the rear axle of the towing vehicle as opposed to hanging off the back of the chassis.

satstheway · 03-07-2021 1:10am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I saw a Hilux jeep and flatbed trailer combination on the road today with a goose neck hitch as opposed to the normal bumper mounted ball and towbar. Is there a reason those sort of setups aren't more popular over here? Surely it would be a lot better and safer to have the tongue weight of the trailer directly over the rear axle of the towing vehicle as opposed to hanging off the back of the chassis.

In Donegal?? Supposed to be very maneuverable

Albert Johnson · 03-07-2021 1:29am

satstheway wrote: »

In Donegal?? Supposed to be very maneuverable

No Sligo. I don't know about the maneuverability but it would be bound to have better weight distribution and lead to a steadier towing experience. It's the same principle as an artic unit unless I'm mistaken, why don't artics utilise a towbar if it was a better system of attachment.

satstheway · 03-07-2021 5:36am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

No Sligo. I don't know about the maneuverability but it would be bound to have better weight distribution and lead to a steadier towing experience. It's the same principle as an artic unit unless I'm mistaken, why don't artics utilise a towbar if it was a better system of attachment.

Guy in donegal has it. Talking to him once. Think only one in ireland at that time. Has to go to Wales or somewhere to get it fitted and serviced. Hilux fitted with airtank for trailer brakes.

wrangler · 03-07-2021 7:21am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I saw a Hilux jeep and flatbed trailer combination on the road today with a goose neck hitch as opposed to the normal bumper mounted ball and towbar. Is there a reason those sort of setups aren't more popular over here? Surely it would be a lot better and safer to have the tongue weight of the trailer directly over the rear axle of the towing vehicle as opposed to hanging off the back of the chassis.

A local had one here on a landrover about 30 + years ago, He found it difficult to reverse, but I'd imagine it was more to do with the poor lock on the landrover than the trailer.
They nevewr got popular anyway

Grueller · 03-07-2021 10:37am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I saw a Hilux jeep and flatbed trailer combination on the road today with a goose neck hitch as opposed to the normal bumper mounted ball and towbar. Is there a reason those sort of setups aren't more popular over here? Surely it would be a lot better and safer to have the tongue weight of the trailer directly over the rear axle of the towing vehicle as opposed to hanging off the back of the chassis.

Save every h00r coming to borrow your trailer too

Mooooo · 03-07-2021 10:52am

Trailer weight would prob increase too much for regs here. A lot of pickups in the states with that setup would have 5t towing capacity

fergal85 · 03-07-2021 12:44pm

Would anyone be able to give me a rough price to rebuild a JCB 3cx 1984 engine. Non turbo

davidk1394 · 03-07-2021 1:25pm

fergal85 wrote: »

Would anyone be able to give me a rough price to rebuild a JCB 3cx 1984 engine. Non turbo

Ballpark 3 to 4k if you want done right. You might have to pay extra if you can't take out the engine yourself

fergal85 · 03-07-2021 2:51pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

Ballpark 3 to 4k if you want done right. You might have to pay extra if you can't take out the engine yourself

That much? What makes it so expensive? Got a tractor done few years ago for 2k and a rebuilt kit is about 800

davidk1394 · 03-07-2021 3:54pm

fergal85 wrote: »

That much? What makes it so expensive? Got a tractor done few years ago for 2k and a rebuilt kit is about 800

Well do you just want the engine block rebuilt or the entire engine including diesel pump, injectors, water pump and the radiator? If its just the actual engine block probably 2k

straight · 04-07-2021 11:36pm

Nobbies wrote: »

Why the shoe over the dribble bar lads??

I priced a conor tank off a lad in Limerick, wouldn't give a price for dribble bar. Told me he doesn't sell them cos trailing shoe is superior and not much difference in price. He came back to me with the conor tank with trailing shoe price. I asked him bout dribble bar and he said he has only sold 2 of them out of 98 or something. I priced plenty places and didn't get that attitude off anybody else.

Reggie. · 05-07-2021 8:18am

straight wrote: »

I priced a conor tank off a lad in Limerick, wouldn't give a price for dribble bar. Told me he doesn't sell them cos trailing shoe is superior and not much difference in price. He came back to me with the conor tank with trailing shoe price. I asked him bout dribble bar and he said he has only sold 2 of them out of 98 or something. I priced plenty places and didn't get that attitude off anybody else.

Sounds very strange that

Morris Moss · 05-07-2021 12:54pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Sounds very strange that

I suppose Conor could be pushing the trailing shoe as opposed to the dribble bar, where I bought the tank it was all trailing shoes but if you wanted a dribble bar he'd sell you a mastek one.

davidk1394 · 05-07-2021 3:54pm

straight wrote: »

I priced a conor tank off a lad in Limerick, wouldn't give a price for dribble bar. Told me he doesn't sell them cos trailing shoe is superior and not much difference in price. He came back to me with the conor tank with trailing shoe price. I asked him bout dribble bar and he said he has only sold 2 of them out of 98 or something. I priced plenty places and didn't get that attitude off anybody else.

I find the Conor trailing shoe very flimsy compared to other makes like Abbey or Slurrykat. They have a tendency to break around the welds at the fill points where they are extended out to suit the trailing shoe.

degetme · 05-07-2021 9:36pm

straight wrote: »

I priced a conor tank off a lad in Limerick, wouldn't give a price for dribble bar. Told me he doesn't sell them cos trailing shoe is superior and not much difference in price. He came back to me with the conor tank with trailing shoe price. I asked him bout dribble bar and he said he has only sold 2 of them out of 98 or something. I priced plenty places and didn't get that attitude off anybody else.

Priced the same as the lad you priced in adare and same story re dribble bar. Didn't go with them. Did you buy from Gearys?

Say my name · 05-07-2021 9:52pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

I suppose Conor could be pushing the trailing shoe as opposed to the dribble bar, where I bought the tank it was all trailing shoes but if you wanted a dribble bar he'd sell you a mastek one.

And the place I bought the major dribble bar is mostly selling new major tankers with the major dribble bar. There is a few trailing shoes going out but the majority with the major dribble bar.
Big rush seems to be over in sales. But I think that's down to supply and leading times pushed out this year.

funkey_monkey · 06-07-2021 10:25am

Would trailing shoes only be suitable for dairy units where there would be less chance of thick slurry as like the beef farms?
Wonder if Moscha will be looking to get approval for small scale farmers. Up here it is only herds of over 200 livestock units and contractors that require LESSE spreading abilities.

Reggie - how you finding the Moscha? If i remember, you have all 3 options now - Moscha, splash plate & trailing hose. What's your thoughts on them?

Reggie. · 06-07-2021 10:32am

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Would trailing shoes only be suitable for dairy units where there would be less chance of thick slurry as like the beef farms?
Wonder if Moscha will be looking to get approval for small scale farmers. Up here it is only herds of over 200 livestock units and contractors that require LESSE spreading abilities.

Reggie - how you finding the Moscha? If i remember, you have all 3 options now - Moscha, splash plate & trailing hose. What's your thoughts on them?

Splash plate never used.

Moscha very good. Rarely used now really. Very fast emptying. Great coverage with it aswell. Its classed as LESS in Germany.

90% of work is dribble bar these days

wrangler · 06-07-2021 10:51am

Reggie. wrote: »

Splash plate never used.

Moscha very good. Rarely used now really. Very fast emptying. Great coverage with it aswell. Its classed as LESS in Germany.

90% of work is dribble bar these days

The neighbours appreciate those that use the dribble bar around here anyway. but curse those tha put slurry out through the splash plate and those that put slurry with pig sh.. in it out through the splash plate are demonised altogether.
Amazing to have so many slurry experts in our non farming neighbours

funkey_monkey · 06-07-2021 10:59am

Thanks - its a wonder are they not pushing it on a European wide basis for small scale farming.
Doesn't even seem that they have an official website.

Only thing I found was this - doesn't seem to take into consideration the environmental impact of increased time taken to spread with dribble bar/trailing shoe (apparently 30% - 40% longer).
https://pdf.agriexpo.online/pdf/moescha-gbr/comparison-slurry-spreaders/169764-5733.html

kevthegaff · 06-07-2021 3:50pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Thanks - its a wonder are they not pushing it on a European wide basis for small scale farming.
Doesn't even seem that they have an official website.

Only thing I found was this - doesn't seem to take into consideration the environmental impact of increased time taken to spread with dribble bar/trailing shoe (apparently 30% - 40% longer).
https://pdf.agriexpo.online/pdf/moescha-gbr/comparison-slurry-spreaders/169764-5733.html

I'm very cynical between higher diesel consumption, more processing of machinery as they wont last as long as your conventional tank and drawing water.