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Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yeah, that would have been a better way to put it.

    Anyway, I'm waiting on a price from them for a 16 x 7 similar to the Bridgeway but clad with Aluminum so will be interesting to see the price on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    emaherx wrote: »
    Yeah, that would have been a better way to put it.

    Anyway, I'm waiting on a price from them for a 16 x 7 similar to the Bridgeway but clad with Aluminum so will be interesting to see the price on that.

    Did you try Whites? Just down the road from Geraghty and anytime we've gotten anything off them they've been the cheapest around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    hopeso wrote: »

    No, they look a nice trailer have you any idea on price? I assume you think my 10k wouldn't go far?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Did you try Whites? Just down the road from Geraghty and anytime we've gotten anything off them they've been the cheapest around.

    No, their website shows mostly Ifor Williams Jeep trailers in the livestock section, but might be worth a call.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    emaherx wrote: »
    Did you try Whites? Just down the road from Geraghty and anytime we've gotten anything off them they've been the cheapest around.

    No, their website shows mostly Ifor Williams Jeep trailers in the livestock section, but might be worth a call.

    The tractor trailers Barry has are a northern crowd JNC I think they are called he definitely had a tractor trailer the last time I was there but saying that that was Dec 2017.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/trailers-for-sale/tractor-trailers/21983265


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso


    emaherx wrote: »
    No, they look a nice trailer have you any idea on price? I assume you think my 10k wouldn't go far?

    I have no idea on the price, but I'm guessing it would be towards the upper end, as they look to be a well finished trailer. They may well be as competitive as any of the others....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I have to say I would find a bridge way hard to live with simply because of the way the wheels are boxed into the inside of the body of the trailer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Tuffmac jeep trailers are very popular locally and seem to be reasonably priced compared to other makes. They don't appear to be overly strong from what I've seen but would probably be comparable to the likes of an Ivor Williams or similar. I've yet to encounter a tractor drawn version although to be fair the trailer in the add looks to be a fine job. With the prospect of weigh restrictions on jeeps being more closely enforced in future along with the ever increasing cost of diesel and the day to day running costs of a jeep there might be merit in a tractor trailer. Having said that tractor trailers are a rarity locally and most of the few tractors I see at the marts are only pulling ordinary 12" or 14" jeep trailers.

    Have a tuffmac 12 x 6 here. In terms of strength they are a mile ahead of an ifor but are not as well finished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Grueller wrote: »
    I have to say I would find a bridge way hard to live with simply because of the way the wheels are boxed into the inside of the body of the trailer.

    They don't seam to be.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/new-bridgeway-trailers/22191169

    But they are in my current trailer and it hasn't been an issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Grueller


    emaherx wrote: »
    They don't seam to be.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/new-bridgeway-trailers/22191169

    But they are in my current trailer and it hasn't been an issue.

    OK. They are different to what I had in mind so. They look a nice trailer enough and at €6300 look value too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso


    emaherx wrote: »
    They don't seam to be.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/new-bridgeway-trailers/22191169

    But they are in my current trailer and it hasn't been an issue.

    Flat floor....... http://www.bridgewayengineering.com/index.php/bridgeway-products/bridgeway-trailers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    If going for a new livestock trailer these days for the Jeep would you better off buy a 14 x 6 over say a 12 x 6 ?

    Move space, I’m aware of towing limits etc but I suppose you wouldn’t have to fill it.

    Would I be right in saying a 14 x 6 hold about 4 cows and calves and a 12 x 6 would hold about 3 cows and calves ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Take a look too at a Johnson when you're at it: http://www.johnstonbros.co.uk/Agricultural-Trailers.aspx


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Grueller wrote: »
    Have a tuffmac 12 x 6 here. In terms of strength they are a mile ahead of an ifor but are not as well finished.

    Perhaps I'm being overly critical of the Tuffmac, there definitely very popular and seem good value compared to other makes. Having said that I know a few lads that haul lots of heavy cattle and the Tuffmac got very tired looking faster than I expected. Granted the same lads wouldn't be the easiest on gear.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    josephsoap wrote: »
    If going for a new livestock trailer these days for the Jeep would you better off buy a 14 x 6 over say a 12 x 6 ?

    Move space, I’m aware of towing limits etc but I suppose you wouldn’t have to fill it.

    Would I be right in saying a 14 x 6 hold about 4 cows and calves and a 12 x 6 would hold about 3 cows and calves ?

    Yes the 14" should hold 4 fair teams with reasonable ease. If you can resist the temptation to load it to the hilt then it would be a better job in a way. By this I mean you'd have more scope to separate weaker stock especially on longer journeys. The major drawback apart from the possibility to overload would be that it's 2" longer and harder handled. If you put a long wheel based jeep in front of it your into the length and width of a good sized lorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    hopeso wrote: »

    Fine looking trailer. Did you price it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    hopeso wrote: »

    €14,700 for 16x7 fully galvanized trailer with aluminum cladding/floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    emaherx wrote: »
    €14,700 for 16x7 fully galvanized trailer with aluminum cladding/floor.

    Holy......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso


    emaherx wrote: »
    €14,700 for 16x7 fully galvanized trailer with aluminum cladding/floor.

    It makes the Tuffmac look like value...........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,217 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Did you try amt engineering in castlebellingham?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Did you try amt engineering in castlebellingham?

    Just tried ringing them, number rang out. So left a message on their Facebook messenger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Did you bother with Johnson?
    The Bridgeway is looking like really good value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Did you bother with Johnson?
    The Bridgeway is looking like really good value.

    Are they up north? I've been avoiding pricing anything up north until we see what happens with Brexit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    hopeso wrote: »

    €8500 20ft is the smallest they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    Are they up north? I've been avoiding pricing anything up north until we see what happens with Brexit.

    Yip - northern. I thought with the €/£ it would be worth a shout. They are 15minutes away from Humac - who make the TuffMac trailer. There are loads of them in mid ulster making trailers.
    Johnston, Humac, Eurospec, Herbst, Nugent, Crooks, Woods, Porter are all pretty much within a half hour drive of each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    You've probably seen their ad on DoneDeal. I'd say there were a few thinking it was a scam, but I'm not sure what the £6,000 will get you, if anything.


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/cattle-trailer-livestock-trailer-trailer/22881064


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,593 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Don't think we've mentioned Herbst before. Fancy looking stuff:

    https://herbstmachinery.com/product/livestock-trailer/


    We'll get your money spent yet :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yip - northern. I thought with the €/£ it would be worth a shout. They are 15minutes away from Humac - who make the TuffMac trailer. There are loads of them in mid ulster making trailers.
    Johnston, Humac, Eurospec, Herbst, Nugent, Crooks, Woods, Porter are all pretty much within a half hour drive of each other.

    Possibly, unless revenue decide there is extra VAT and import duties owed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭hopeso


    emaherx wrote: »
    €8500 20ft is the smallest they do.

    It looks to be a decent enough trailer for that money.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    emaherx wrote: »
    hopeso wrote: »

    €8500 20ft is the smallest they do.

    Is this too small for ya?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/cattle-trailer/22513962

    Or have you your heart set on a new one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Is this too small for ya?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/cattle-trailer/22513962

    Or have you your heart set on a new one?

    It's a bit bodged together, with no lights or brakes and tyres are fairly worn looking, they are asking enough for it if you ask me. Any decent looking second hand trailers I've seen are getting close in price to the bottom end price of the new ones I've been looking at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭adne


    emaherx wrote: »
    €8500 20ft is the smallest they do.

    Ex vat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    adne wrote: »
    Ex vat?

    You know, I'm not sure. I didn't enquire too much after he said that was the smallest. Even with VAT added it seems good price compared to Tuffmac 16ft.

    I think 20x8 ft is probably too big a trailer for my 390T?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭visatorro


    emaherx wrote: »
    €8500 20ft is the smallest they do.

    20ft isnt the smallest trailer they do. Must have been a different salesman i spoke to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    visatorro wrote: »
    20ft isnt the smallest trailer they do. Must have been a different salesman i spoke to!

    This was the dealer in Longford, not the manufacturer so possibly. I'm not done looking just yet. Did you get prices?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    If you are going to get a cattle trailer do it right!
    https://www.remorquerolland.com/nos-materiels/rollvan-59-2/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭fanmanad


    That could be the only size of mcm he has left in stockas the factory has stopped manufacturing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    If you are going to get a cattle trailer do it right!
    https://www.remorquerolland.com/nos-materiels/rollvan-59-2/
    The telescopic gates on the back are handy looking . I'd like a roof though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    Bullocks wrote: »
    If you are going to get a cattle trailer do it right!
    https://www.remorquerolland.com/nos-materiels/rollvan-59-2/
    The telescopic gates on the back are handy looking . I'd like a roof though

    I don't like how the wheel arches are in the trailer. I'm not fond of anything that could cause an animal to lose its footing and go down in the trailer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭emaherx


    9935452 wrote: »
    I don't like how the wheel arches are in the trailer. I'm not fond of anything that could cause an animal to lose its footing and go down in the trailer.

    My current trailer is like that and I've never seen it as an issue. It means having a less steep ramp which is easier on cattle while loading.

    Joskin make one which reclines using hydraulic rams that has no ramp at all and cattle can walk straight in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭visatorro


    emaherx wrote: »
    This was the dealer in Longford, not the manufacturer so possibly. I'm not done looking just yet. Did you get prices?

    Everything from 7+vat to 15all in. For 18ft trailers. Amt was near the lower end. Dont have the budget this year anyway it looks like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Put on the kettle. Make a cup of tea. Sit back and enjoy. :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Put on the kettle. Make a cup of tea. Sit back and enjoy. :D


    He does quite a few videos these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Put on the kettle. Make a cup of tea. Sit back and enjoy. :D


    He does quite a few videos these days
    My young lads put me watching him awhile ago. I didn't like him at the start but I find he's fairly honest and shows a lot of different stuff. He has a jape of Jersey x calves as well. I really liked that video of the dosing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Bullocks wrote: »
    My young lads put me watching him awhile ago. I didn't like him at the start but I find he's fairly honest and shows a lot of different stuff. He has a jape of Jersey x calves as well. I really liked that video of the dosing

    Young lad trying his best tbf. Not a whole pile of employment in that part of the country I'd imagine. Some of the jerseys dont look great you'd wonder the last couple of years how he got them to the factory. Machinery wouldn't be very fresh but he is honest about there being no chance of buying fresh stuff. I'd love if my better half came home from work and drew in a few load of grass or helped with cattle!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    visatorro wrote: »
    Young lad trying his best tbf. Not a whole pile of employment in that part of the country I'd imagine. Some of the jerseys dont look great you'd wonder the last couple of years how he got them to the factory. Machinery wouldn't be very fresh but he is honest about there being no chance of buying fresh stuff. I'd love if my better half came home from work and drew in a few load of grass or helped with cattle!

    I'd say they got alot of those calves for next to nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I'd say they got alot of those calves for next to nothing

    Watched a lot of his videos there tonight. Worth watching for his honesty alone. One viewer offered him FREE Jersey x FR bull calves for next year. They were up to 700 cattle at one stage and they also went down with TB in 2016, if I remember right. All in all a good hard working operator. Jeez he has a lot going on.


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