Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

funkey_monkey

Where is he based?

leoch

I think longford area

Waffletraktor

davidk1394 wrote: »

A different way to sowing corn
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2333836220264212&id=1638978756416632

That’d be on the brecks (sand land)in Norfolk around thetford most likely. It’s called a minimat.
It has a lot of veg grown on it but only since irrigation became a thing. It was just rough grazing hence how Guinness’s ended up with such a big spot back in the day.

visatorro

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

I'd say they got alot of those calves for next to nothing

He's contracting if he took the calves instead of money he's definitely losing money!

148multi

Has a case cs95 one or two hydraulic filters

selectamatic

Anyone hear of a large tractor dismantlers yard having a closing down sale in the munster area somewhere?

I saw a somewhat cryptic post on Facebook so was just wondering.

Never wrestle with pigs

selectamatic wrote: »

Anyone hear of a large tractor dismantlers yard having a closing down sale in the munster area somewhere?

I saw a somewhat cryptic post on Facebook so was just wondering.

Saw the same post lol. I don't know where but a place in Kerry sprung to my mind first. I could be wrong. I don't know the name of it but they have hundreds of the vintage type tractors that he was talking about.

dzer2

If.either has a name I would appreciate a pm. Doing up a Nuffield atm

selectamatic

An aul spot in cork sprung to mind for me tbh but I don't think the same men would be throwing in the towel just yet...

whelan2

emaherx wrote: »

You know, I'm not sure. I didn't enquire too much after he said that was the smallest. Even with VAT added it seems good price compared to Tuffmac 16ft.

I think 20x8 ft is probably too big a trailer for my 390T?

Any update on the trailer?

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

Any update on the trailer?

Not yet, busy trying to get FYM out between showers + had to move cattle between out farms and a few into shed for winter (ironically new trailer would have made that easier).

Should be quite after Halloween, will have time then to go and look properly.

I'm leaning towards the Bridgeway possibly the 18x7. I wouldn't mind spending the bit extra if I see a similar trailer sheeted in Aluminum but I think the 16x8 Tuffmac is just that bit too wide for my tractor.

GrasstoMilk

emaherx wrote: »

Not yet, busy trying to get FYM out between showers + had to move cattle between out farms and a few into shed for winter (ironically new trailer would have made that easier).

Should be quite after Halloween, will have time then to go and look properly.

I'm leaning towards the Bridgeway possibly the 18x7. I wouldn't mind spending the bit extra if I see a similar trailer sheeted in Aluminum but I think the 16x8 Tuffmac is just that bit too wide for my tractor.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/cattle-trailers-amp-truck-bodies/23000425

Have you tried these guys? They're near us, do a good job

Reggie.

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/cattle-trailers-amp-truck-bodies/23000425

Have you tried these guys? They're near us, do a good job

Cheap enough at €1000

emaherx

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cattletrailers-for-sale/cattle-trailers-amp-truck-bodies/23000425

Have you tried these guys? They're near us, do a good job

Not yet, but I've already saved that add, so I must have been going to.

Madisonmenece

Bought a Volvo 622 loader over the weekend, needs some TLC but starting and driving okay. Will give it a full service once it gets down and perhaps flush and replace both transmission and hydraulic fluid.

Would lifting two bales of silage be too hard on it at this stage of its life, 3300 kg lift out of factory but that's near 40 years ago.

Any others things that need to looked out for? only for feeding cows and pushing up doing heap.

Odelay

Madisonmenece wrote: »

Bought a Volvo 622 loader over the weekend, needs some TLC but starting and driving okay. Will give it a full service once it gets down and perhaps flush and replace both transmission and hydraulic fluid.

Would lifting two bales of silage be too hard on it at this stage of its life, 3300 kg lift out of factory but that's near 40 years ago.

Any others things that need to looked out for? only for feeding cows and pushing up doing heap.

Well wear! That’s an interesting buy.

They are built well. Id think two bales would be easier on it than running twice the distance with one.

i hear new Volvo parts for them can be got from Pat O’Donnell.

Any chance of a few pics?

hopeso

Madisonmenece wrote: »

Bought a Volvo 622 loader over the weekend, needs some TLC but starting and driving okay. Will give it a full service once it gets down and perhaps flush and replace both transmission and hydraulic fluid.

Would lifting two bales of silage be too hard on it at this stage of its life, 3300 kg lift out of factory but that's near 40 years ago.

Any others things that need to looked out for? only for feeding cows and pushing up doing heap.

Well wear....A real classic at this stage.

I'd say so long as the hydraulics are up to lifting the two bales it will be no hardship on her. She'll be more able for it than some of the modern tractors that they're lifting two bales on....

Madisonmenece

Odelay wrote: »

Well wear! That’s an interesting buy.

They are built well. Id think two bales would be easier on it than running twice the distance with one.

i hear new Volvo parts for them can be got from Pat O’Donnell.

Any chance of a few pics?

Only getting it on Tuesday/Wednesday, link to the add below. Now I'd say she sat for a year since the add went up, it's certainly not sexy

https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/volvo-622/19449520

wrangler

Madisonmenece wrote: »

Only getting it on Tuesday/Wednesday, link to the add below. Now I'd say she sat for a year since the add went up, it's certainly not sexy

https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/volvo-622/19449520

You should try to get the bits to convert to four wheel drive if what the seller says is true, they're very poor on land

Madisonmenece

wrangler wrote: »

You should try to get the bits to convert to four wheel drive if what the seller says is true, they're very poor on land

Id say that would be down the line, it is mainly yard work or stack bales in the summer, but 4wd would certainly be a plus

roosterman71

Madisonmenece wrote: »

Only getting it on Tuesday/Wednesday, link to the add below. Now I'd say she sat for a year since the add went up, it's certainly not sexy

https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/volvo-622/19449520

I think it's fantastic to see things like that still being used and being made use of instead of being left to rot somewhere

emaherx

They weren't pretty, but a lick of paint helps

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/classic-corner-is-this-the-ultimate-value-for-money-volvo/

Good look with the Loader, hope you have plenty of work for it.

Muckit

They were supposed to be a great loader on their day. Would have worked in quarries. Indeed a few still have them tipping about

tractorporn

Was behind a lorry today that was carrying one of those real small teleporters. The passageways here are only 9'8" and I've been thinking about a small loader like a Kramer for a while. This was a weidemann I think as it was coming out of Clarkes, anyone have any experience with them? Anyone any idea of price?

Odelay

tractorporn wrote: »

Was behind a lorry today that was carrying one of those real small teleporters. The passageways here are only 9'8" and I've been thinking about a small loader like a Kramer for a while. This was a weidemann I think as it was coming out of Clarkes, anyone have any experience with them? Anyone any idea of price?

No idea on price, but have been using one on a large industrial site. It’s a very popular machine there and a favorite of all users.

tractorporn

Odelay wrote: »

No idea on price, but have been using one on a large industrial site. It’s a very popular machine there and a favorite of all users.

Fairly solid machine? Did you find it easy to get to grips with the controls Odelay?

Odelay

tractorporn wrote: »

Fairly solid machine? Did you find it easy to get to grips with the controls Odelay?

Solid, very quick on a rough yard which surprised me. Didn’t try it with bales, but it handled a ton of water ok.
Controls are mostly easy, however it has some sort of hydrostatic drive. Basically if you take your foot off the throttle she breaks. Very annoying but probably can be tuned out of it.
View to the rhs is poor, but that’s probably the nature of them.

tractorporn

Odelay wrote: »

Solid, very quick on a rough yard which surprised me. Didn’t try it with bales, but it handled a ton of water ok.
Controls are mostly easy, however it has some sort of hydrostatic drive. Basically if you take your foot off the throttle she breaks. Very annoying but probably can be tuned out of it.
View to the rhs is poor, but that’s probably the nature of them.

Ya I test drove a jcb 520-50 and the rhs is the same. Sounds like they're a good little machine, I saw Grassmen had one in a video and they were impressed with it. Price is the only thing, that JCB was a 2010 and it was coming in at 30k

SuperTortoise

I drove one years ago on the sites for a very short while, would'nt lift a huge ammount with the boom out from what i remember but in fairness i was probably asking an awful lot of her.

Is there crab steering on the small ones? Would a skid steer be as usefull?

Grueller

SuperTortoise wrote: »

I drove one years ago on the sites for a very short while, would'nt lift a huge ammount with the boom out from what i remember but in fairness i was probably asking an awful lot of her.

Is there crab steering on the small ones? Would a skid steer be as usefull?

I know they are great in a tight space but I honestly think skid steers are the most overrated uncomfortable yoke to be near. Give me a small telehandler any day.

tractorporn

SuperTortoise wrote: »

I drove one years ago on the sites for a very short while, would'nt lift a huge ammount with the boom out from what i remember but in fairness i was probably asking an awful lot of her.

Is there crab steering on the small ones? Would a skid steer be as usefull?

Looks from the website that only the bigger one has crab steering. I have thought of a skid steer but as Grueller said most dont have a cab and aren't great for the winter and I think our pit would be a bit too high for a skid steer.

When you add a full cab onto them the price isn't far off a small teleporter.

MickeyShtyles

Muckit wrote: »

They were supposed to be a great loader on their day. Would have worked in quarries. Indeed a few still have them tipping about

There’s a quarry on yer left hand side between Kiltormer and Ballinasloe that I’m nearly certain has one of those Volvo’s. You’d probably pass it more often than me.

MfMan

Odelay wrote: »

No idea on price, but have been using one on a large industrial site. It’s a very popular machine there and a favorite of all users.

New ones starting €44k+VAT, (you probably won't have much change outta 50k by the time you have it all specced with attachments etc.) Hard enough to get second hand ones, people tend to hold on to them for a good few years. Wilsons of Rathkenny in Antrim advertising a couple of newer seconds; unsure of price, but probably north of 30k I'd imagine. Not as good as skid steers in tight passages, or for cutting out silage blocks either, as the view of the grab is better in the skiddie.

Muckit

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

There’s a quarry on yer left hand side between Kiltormer and Ballinasloe that I’m nearly certain has one of those Volvo’s. You’d probably pass it more often than me.

Yes indeed. Whytes Concete.

tractorporn

MfMan wrote: »

New ones starting €44k+VAT, (you probably won't have much change outta 50k by the time you have it all specced with attachments etc.) Hard enough to get second hand ones, people tend to hold on to them for a good few years. Wilsons of Rathkenny in Antrim advertising a couple of newer seconds; unsure of price, but probably north of 30k I'd imagine. Not as good as skid steers in tight passages, or for cutting out silage blocks either, as the view of the grab is better in the skiddie.

That's not as bad as I had thought, I would have guessed 60k if i had to. I've seen a couple of demos advertised on dungdeal last night I'll make some enquiries.

3 the square

What year opinion on jcb 527 58 eci jcb have a 2017 for sale are they all electric yokes??

Mooooo

MfMan wrote: »

New ones starting €44k+VAT, (you probably won't have much change outta 50k by the time you have it all specced with attachments etc.) Hard enough to get second hand ones, people tend to hold on to them for a good few years. Wilsons of Rathkenny in Antrim advertising a couple of newer seconds; unsure of price, but probably north of 30k I'd imagine. Not as good as skid steers in tight passages, or for cutting out silage blocks either, as the view of the grab is better in the skiddie.

What size of a machine is that?

funkey_monkey

On the handler subject, which ones apart from the Dieci Agri Handler and the Merlo MultiFamer have 3 pt linkage and services at the rear?

MfMan

Mooooo wrote: »

What size of a machine is that?

It's the Weidemann T4512. The price I mentioned earlier would be as per ploughing match last year, bound to have risen a bit since again. The Wacker Neuson TH412 is the exact same machine, but maybe slightly cheaper.

Dozer1

Anyone got experience of the mchale rs4 bale splitter thinking of pricing one

funkey_monkey

I've used the standard one without the wrap retainer. It was used off the 3pt linkage. What I found was that the knife did not retract sufficiently to allow proper stabbing of the bale for transport. Although in hindsight it might have been better to stab into the base of the bale as per the McHale videos/photos - but then we stack bales vertically and flicking them over in the compound etc was a hassle. Also as there were 3 prongs on it, it made it more difficult to stab the bale as it had a tendency to slide.

I found them to be no more useful than a front end loader. When we split the bales longitudinally we found that they were no easier to graip as they fell cut side up which didn't give anything to get the graip stuck into. So, we then had to raise and lower the split bale to loosen it up. For us it also took up the entire passageway which meant we were having to walk over the cut bale and so we were stinking of silage.
We gave up using it and went back to using the loader to bring them in and using the graip initially. We then would use the prongs to lift the bale and let it break apart in the air when the bale tightened after the swiss roll effect wore off. This was not much slower than the knife.

If you don't have a loader, I'd look at one of those first - much more versatile. If you do have a loader I'd question the need for the splitter unless you are in a big way of going feeding multiple bales daily.

As the RS4 looks to be a loader attachment, it seems you already have a loader so could you not re-lift your bale in the feeding area offset and it would then disintegrate?

If you are loading a feeder wagon, then it would be a really good job for that.

Dozer1

thanks for that,
I'm in an old school yard so its a safety issue for me,
I'm putting the cows in a shed then lifting bale on front loader, driving into the front of the barrier with the bale lifted over it,
hopping out then to cut the plastic & net (having to reach under loader) and dropping the bale
off shaped bales are inclinded to fall before I'm safely in the tractor
I'd rather not become a statistic..

Mooooo

Dozer1 wrote: »

thanks for that,
I'm in an old school yard so its a safety issue for me,
I'm putting the cows in a shed then lifting bale on front loader, driving into the front of the barrier with the bale lifted over it,
hopping out then to cut the plastic & net (having to reach under loader) and dropping the bale
off shaped bales are inclinded to fall before I'm safely in the tractor
I'd rather not become a statistic..

With bales here we cut off the end of bale plastic and tip it out on It's end then, and use the prong to pull off the plastic then as you're pulling it out of the bale, works most of the time anyway. Hop down to roll the net off the bale then. Hate bales.

funkey_monkey

Dozer1 wrote: »

thanks for that,
I'm in an old school yard so its a safety issue for me,
I'm putting the cows in a shed then lifting bale on front loader, driving into the front of the barrier with the bale lifted over it,
hopping out then to cut the plastic & net (having to reach under loader) and dropping the bale
off shaped bales are inclinded to fall before I'm safely in the tractor
I'd rather not become a statistic..

Yes, that's a good reason to look into them. Have you thought about a bale slicer instead like the Tanco or the Keltec?
I've read that the Tanco allows you to split the bale between two locations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CZjE9FxdMI

funkey_monkey

Back to the livestock trailers - are fail safe brakes a requirement now or when is it coming in?

Reggie.

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Back to the livestock trailers - are fail safe brakes a requirement now or when is it coming in?

Better to have it on the trailer if possible. Theres one on my new one anyways

funkey_monkey

Reggie. wrote: »

Better to have it on the trailer if possible. Theres one on my new one anyways

Are they expensive to retrofit?

Reggie.

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Are they expensive to retrofit?

Not sure, most are just like a handbrake on a ratchet with a wire rope out of it. If the trailer comes off then the rope is pulled and the handbrake pulled and help on by the ratchet. Suppose it could be added after wards but handier to get it put on when it's new really.

emaherx

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Back to the livestock trailers - are fail safe brakes a requirement now or when is it coming in?

Fairly sure they are required on all new trailers since 2016. Chains sufficient on older trailers, but like Reggie said if you can fit them all the better.

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

Not sure, most are just like a handbrake on a ratchet with a wire rope out of it. If the trailer comes off then the rope is pulled and the handbrake pulled and help on by the ratchet. Suppose it could be added after wards but handier to get it put on when it's new really.

Hubs would have to have brakes in them too