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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I'm upgrading my tank from a 1300 to a 1600, was gona buy a second hand one on done deal but see alot of rust on the back of abbey ones, is it just visual or are they a weaker tank, lads keep telling me tractor tyres are better on the hills, do you need different rims? Do the galvanise tanks keep better on the inside also?

    Abbey has a noticeably quieter pump than a hispec is all my guidance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,230 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    Abbey has a noticeably quieter pump than a hispec is all my guidance.

    Tis when the noise stops that I worry


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I'm upgrading my tank from a 1300 to a 1600, was gona buy a second hand one on done deal but see alot of rust on the back of abbey ones, is it just visual or are they a weaker tank, lads keep telling me tractor tyres are better on the hills, do you need different rims? Do the galvanise tanks keep better on the inside also?

    I’ve an old 20 plus year old galvanised tank open it every couple of years and it’s perfect inside and out


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭hopeso


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I'm upgrading my tank from a 1300 to a 1600, was gona buy a second hand one on done deal but see alot of rust on the back of abbey ones, is it just visual or are they a weaker tank, lads keep telling me tractor tyres are better on the hills, do you need different rims? Do the galvanise tanks keep better on the inside also?

    The tractor type tyres will be better on softer ground. Yes, they are on different rims, but if you're buying second hand the correct rims and tyres will already be fitted. If your ground is in any way soft, I'd be looking for the biggest wheels possible. The wheels make all the difference, and the price difference won't be huge on a used tanker. There's supposed to be some good value around on used tankers with people upgrading to dribble bars and claiming the grant on new tankers.
    I've heard of people claiming that rust was an issue on Abbey tankers, but I don't know if they're any worse than other makes. Galvanise would be well worth going for, on any make of tanker.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,450 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    hopeso wrote: »
    The tractor type tyres will be better on softer ground. Yes, they are on different rims, but if you're buying second hand the correct rims and tyres will already be fitted. If your ground is in any way soft, I'd be looking for the biggest wheels possible. The wheels make all the difference, and the price difference won't be huge on a used tanker. There's supposed to be some good value around on used tankers with people upgrading to dribble bars and claiming the grant on new tankers.
    I've heard of people claiming that rust was an issue on Abbey tankers, but I don't know if they're any worse than other makes. Galvanise would be well worth going for, on any make of tanker.

    In fairness any tanker will get rust if used enough at slurry


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    Reggie. wrote: »
    In fairness any tanker will get rust if used enough at slurry

    No rust on my old tank apart from the axel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,450 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    No rust on my old tank apart from the axel.

    Still rust on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I'm upgrading my tank from a 1300 to a 1600, was gona buy a second hand one on done deal but see alot of rust on the back of abbey ones, is it just visual or are they a weaker tank, lads keep telling me tractor tyres are better on the hills, do you need different rims? Do the galvanise tanks keep better on the inside also?

    We have a 1300 gal Abbey here since 2008. It was 15 years old when we bought it. Still going strong. Had to replace 1 tyre with a second hand one as it burst aprox 5 yrs ago. A few bits of surface rust / flaking paint on the outside but nothing to worry about. Was toying with the idea of tidying it up a bit but going to leave as is. Hope to a few more years out of it.... might upgrade to a 1600 gal 2nd hand then. I'd have no issue buying Abbey going on this experience if they still put the same stuff into them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I'm upgrading my tank from a 1300 to a 1600, was gona buy a second hand one on done deal but see alot of rust on the back of abbey ones, is it just visual or are they a weaker tank, lads keep telling me tractor tyres are better on the hills, do you need different rims? Do the galvanise tanks keep better on the inside also?

    We bought a 2000 gl couple of years ago,went from 1300.if you asked me at the time i would have said theres a few places we ll never take it into but all those places are now being done with it.in fact we now intend to keep it when we buy a tank with a dribble bar to do the hilly bits.i think you have tm 155 now ,shed boss a 2000 gl


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,230 ✭✭✭Grueller


    K.G. wrote: »
    We bought a 2000 gl couple of years ago,went from 1300.if you asked me at the time i would have said theres a few places we ll never take it into but all those places are now being done with it.in fact we now intend to keep it when we buy a tank with a dribble bar to do the hilly bits.i think you have tm 155 now ,shed boss a 2000 gl

    If the ground is flat she would murder a 2500 gallon to be fair.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭minerleague


    hopeso wrote: »
    The tractor type tyres will be better on softer ground. Yes, they are on different rims, but if you're buying second hand the correct rims and tyres will already be fitted. If your ground is in any way soft, I'd be looking for the biggest wheels possible. The wheels make all the difference, and the price difference won't be huge on a used tanker. There's supposed to be some good value around on used tankers with people upgrading to dribble bars and claiming the grant on new tankers.
    I've heard of people claiming that rust was an issue on Abbey tankers, but I don't know if they're any worse than other makes. Galvanise would be well worth going for, on any make of tanker.

    Contractor does slurry here, machinery getting bigger every time he upgrades, has big 150 hp tractor 2750 gallon tank dribble bar on back. Outfit doesn't leave ruts on soft ground but is it acting like a roller compacting ground as still a lot of weight to be carried?? (slurry from baled silage so usually too thick for umbilical system + outside blocks)


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    https://youtu.be/JmuN4zdophk


    Interesting modification made to a McHale bale splitter here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,996 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    K.G. wrote: »
    We bought a 2000 gl couple of years ago,went from 1300.if you asked me at the time i would have said theres a few places we ll never take it into but all those places are now being done with it.in fact we now intend to keep it when we buy a tank with a dribble bar to do the hilly bits.i think you have tm 155 now ,shed boss a 2000 gl

    Contractor has a big and small tank and cant travel most of the ground here with the 2250 and that's with a 180hp jd


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Contractor has a big and small tank and cant travel most of the ground here with the 2250 and that's with a 180hp jd

    Would the pipe do on the hills?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,996 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Would the pipe do on the hills?

    Done some already, but struggles on higher ground


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    josephsoap wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/JmuN4zdophk


    Interesting modification made to a McHale bale splitter here.

    Tidy job. Great idea.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I’ve an old 20 plus year old galvanised tank open it every couple of years and it’s perfect inside and out

    +1

    Rossmore galv 1300 tank here and it will see me out hopefully. I don't think people realize how much damage compaction is doing to soil. Get the biggest tyres you can Kev.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    What are lads thoughts on a tandem axle tank over a single axle ? Would it reduce the amount of compaction ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭dzer2


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    What are lads thoughts on a tandem axle tank over a single axle ? Would it reduce the amount of compaction ?

    More turning resistance, tear soft ground. Not as good in close yards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    dzer2 wrote: »
    More turning resistance, tear soft ground. Not as good in close yards.

    Even with a steering axle ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,694 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Even with a steering axle ?

    They still tear the place up 3500 gallon hi spec tandem on 750 tyres does alot more damage than the same contractors 2600 gallon on 30.5/800's in the same field, neighbour remarked on it last year when he had them in and the damage the tandem done versus the single


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    The tandem would suit a lot of roadwork but as said ground conditions would want to be good in the field as well. Spread everything bar a few loads of parlour washings with the pipe here


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    They still tear the place up 3500 gallon hi spec tandem on 750 tyres does alot more damage than the same contractors 2600 gallon on 30.5/800's in the same field, neighbour remarked on it last year when he had them in and the damage the tandem done versus the single

    3500 gallon is some weight behind a tractor. Has it have a trailing shoe on the back of it aswell?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,694 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    3500 gallon is some weight behind a tractor. Has it have a trailing shoe on the back of it aswell?

    They have a trailing shoe for it, but is rarely on it, hilly very variable ground around here, it's a tank that you could only be going into half the yards they do in the spring


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,175 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Mooooo wrote: »
    The tandem would suit a lot of roadwork but as said ground conditions would want to be good in the field as well. Spread everything bar a few loads of parlour washings with the pipe here

    It's the way everyone's going now, winters gone too wet now for tankers in areas with heavy land


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Contractor has a big and small tank and cant travel most of the ground here with the 2250 and that's with a 180hp jd

    There might only 3 days in the year when you could do some of ours


  • Registered Users Posts: 767 ✭✭✭degetme


    Mooooo wrote: »
    The tandem would suit a lot of roadwork but as said ground conditions would want to be good in the field as well. Spread everything bar a few loads of parlour washings with the pipe here

    Got the pipes here for the 1st time this year. It's an ideal system for farms with all there land in 1 block. Our silage ground is 3/4km away and by right that should be getting the best of the slurry all the time especially when tis cut 3 times a year. It's great for watery stuff in jan on milking ground.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,996 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    K.G. wrote: »
    There might only 3 days in the year when you could do some of ours

    Gravity and traction


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Gravity and traction

    Moisture


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Guys - I asked a question over here in relation to cheap diggers in AliBaba (I was asked about them...)
    Anyone with some knowledge..?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058153228


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