Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

kevthegaff

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Is the reservoir empty?

Any chance the low oil caused the back end to get hot

Wheres the reservoir

kevthegaff

Deleted User wrote: »

2 bleed nuts at top of hubs,and another on trailer brake valve



Though id imagine,your brake o-rings are gone hard,and its leaking into backend oil......would it have 8 to 10,000 hours

About 7000hrs

9935452

kevthegaff wrote: »

Wheres the reservoir

Under the bonnet . About half way back .
Afaik its mineral oil it takes and not brake fluid

This could be of some help for the brake problem
https://www.forum4farming.com/forum/index.php?threads/tm-155-problems.16387/

kevthegaff

9935452 wrote: »

Under the bonnet . About half way back .
Afaik its mineral oil it takes and not brake fluid

This could be of some help for the brake problem
https://www.forum4farming.com/forum/index.php?threads/tm-155-problems.16387/

Jaysus cant find it, theres like a filter under the cavity with a pipe in and a pipe out, hardly that?

timple23

kevthegaff wrote: »

Jaysus cant find it, theres like a filter under the cavity with a pipe in and a pipe out, hardly that?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/119638475213538/

Some very knowledgeable NH people in this group.

kevthegaff

kevthegaff wrote: »

About 7000hrs

the parts are cheap enough for this job....id imagine,you'll be doing them at some stage over next year or so

kevthegaff

Ya reservoir is empty, what's the mineral oil I need. Hope it was the issue

FintanMcluskey

kevthegaff wrote: »

Ya reservoir is empty, what's the mineral oil I need. Hope it was the issue

LHM oil.

emaherx

kevthegaff wrote: »

Ya reservoir is empty, what's the mineral oil I need. Hope it was the issue

It's most likely the reason for no breaks, but you probably still need to investigate why it's empty in the first place.

whelan2

kevthegaff wrote: »

Tm 155 ran low of back end oil, anyway brakes arent working. What is the best way to bleed them

We just got the new Holland mechanic out to do it. 2 person job. Well one of us and the mechanic. At least we knew it was done right

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

We just got the new Holland mechanic out to do it. 2 person job. Well one of us and the mechanic. At least we knew it was done right

Can be done with one person with an easy bleed kit. I've got one that connects to a valve on one of the tyres and uses the air pressure to bleed the system.

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/gunson-brake-bleeding-kit-14-piece-set/33881?gclid=Cj0KCQiA-aGCBhCwARIsAHDl5x9HIt-cKDdf1Jy8VIjTImXh0Kc8YG4qKdCsoaHdTeGZJ3l4bCMqmnYaArr9EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

I had to buy an extra lid and drill a hole in it for my fluid reservoir as none included in the kit fitted.

FintanMcluskey

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/wr-shaw-served-with-notice-of-termination-by-new-holland-607413

Surely one of the biggest shocks in recent years in the trade.

jd_12345

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/wr-shaw-served-with-notice-of-termination-by-new-holland-607413

Surely one of the biggest shocks in recent years in the trade.

Definitely. Has to be a massive branch with all the tractors out on hire. It'll be some loss for New Holland if its not resolved though. Were they paying for their tractors i wonder to compensate for the new branch? That's what happened with the New Holland Dealer in West Cork a few years back. Big losses on stocks and selling new tractors that he wasn't paying for!

DBK1

jd_12345 wrote: »

Definitely. Has to be a massive branch with all the tractors out on hire. It'll be some loss for New Holland if its not resolved though. Were they paying for their tractors i wonder to compensate for the new branch? That's what happened with the New Holland Dealer in West Cork a few years back. Big losses on stocks and selling new tractors that he wasn't paying for!

It’s in the pipeline since before Xmas. There were a few issues being argued over by both sides but payment for new tractors certainly wasn’t one of the problems.

In the end it was New Holland who decided to pull the plug so they must expect to be able to take on another dealer to make up the sales.

They’d want to organise it fairly quick as Shaws have only recently bought out Lyons and Burton so New Holland is gone from their branches too which leaves a very big empty space in the midlands and north Leinster now for NH.

whelan2

DBK1 wrote: »

It’s in the pipeline since before Xmas. There were a few issues being argued over by both sides but payment for new tractors certainly wasn’t one of the problems.

In the end it was New Holland who decided to pull the plug so they must expect to be able to take on another dealer to make up the sales.

They’d want to organise it fairly quick as Shaws have only recently bought out Lyons and Burton so New Holland is gone from their branches too which leaves a very big empty space in the midlands and north Leinster now for NH.

Will Armstrong machinery not just take over now?

Jb1989

emaherx wrote: »

Can be done with one person with an easy bleed kit. I've got one that connects to a valve on one of the tyres and uses the air pressure to bleed the system.

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/gunson-brake-bleeding-kit-14-piece-set/33881?gclid=Cj0KCQiA-aGCBhCwARIsAHDl5x9HIt-cKDdf1Jy8VIjTImXh0Kc8YG4qKdCsoaHdTeGZJ3l4bCMqmnYaArr9EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

I had to buy an extra lid and drill a hole in it for my fluid reservoir as none included in the kit fitted.

Lifted same setup, different name tho, at 20 euro, today in motor Factors, super job.

DBK1

whelan2 wrote: »

Will Armstrong machinery not just take over now?

I suppose they’ll pick up some of the north Leinster customers.

Mike Garahy will probably get more of the midlands lads. M&S and Murphy’s will get back some of the southern lads. When it’s all divided up they might all just gain a small bit and New Holland could still survive without WR Shaw!!

DBK1

DBK1 wrote: »

I suppose they’ll pick up some of the north Leinster customers.

Mike Garahy will probably get more of the midlands lads. M&S and Murphy’s will get back some of the southern lads. When it’s all divided up they might all just gain a small bit and New Holland could still survive without WR Shaw!!

He was stepping on a lot of toes and murphys couldnt compete with him price wise.....may have been a dealer revolt within new holland??


I know one grass machinery brand suffered a similar row years ago,with dealers being undercut across the country by one crowd and then expected to do the warrenty work on machines,they havnt sold

jaymla627

DBK1 wrote: »

I suppose they’ll pick up some of the north Leinster customers.

Mike Garahy will probably get more of the midlands lads. M&S and Murphy’s will get back some of the southern lads. When it’s all divided up they might all just gain a small bit and New Holland could still survive without WR Shaw!!

With a t6 180 dynamic gone north of 100k plus the vat as a example of a popular new holland tractor who's going to have the price of one, the ex-hire tractors where savage value out of their as a example a fully loaded t 6 180 with in our around 700 hours ex-hire where being sold for 80k incl vat out of that dealership in 2018, the contractor/farmer is the only real casualty with the dealership being pulled

DBK1

Deleted User wrote: »

He was stepping on a lot of toes and murphys couldnt compete with him price wise.....may have been a dealer revolt within new holland??


I know one grass machinery brand suffered a similar row years ago,with dealers being undercut across the country by one crowd and then expected to do the warrenty work on machines,they havnt sold

There was a bit of a revolt before he bought out Lyons and Burton alright but it was supposed to have been sorted. A few more issues came up afterwards and there was unresolvable differences supposedly.

He definitely would have been stepping on other lads toes, he was selling to every corner of the country.

DBK1

jaymla627 wrote: »

With a t6 180 dynamic gone north of 100k plus the vat as a example of a popular new holland tractor who's going to have the price of one, the ex-hire tractors where savage value out of their as a example a fully loaded t 6 180 with in our around 700 hours ex-hire where being sold for 80k incl vat out of that dealership in 2018, the contractor/farmer is the only real casualty with the dealership being pulled

I see your point but the number of ex-hires is greatly reduced from now on regardless of Shaws or not. Bord Na Mona were using about 70 new tractors every year and they were all sold as ex hires. Bord Na Mona obviously aren’t renewing that contract as they are finished peat production so them numbers won’t be there in future no matter who the dealer is.

There was also about 20 or 25 tractors hired into the airport and I heard (but can’t confirm) that he had lost that contract already as well so between the two that would be near 100 tractors not available any more as ex hire no matter what. .

kevthegaff

What will Shaws sell now?

DBK1

kevthegaff wrote: »

What will Shaws sell now?

The rumours around here are that he plans to stay sourcing the clean second hand New Holland’s from UK and further afield and sell them.

kevthegaff

I deal with garaghy, worst thing it will be harder to get these lads as theyl take on new clients

DBK1

kevthegaff wrote: »

I deal with garaghy, worst thing it will be harder to get these lads as theyl take on new clients

I deal with him myself too. A sound man and very knowledgeable on what he does. Aileen (his wife) knows almost as much as him when it comes to the spare parts!

timple23

Was comparing last years IFJ machinery price supplement with this year, most big machines/tractors have gone up by 1/2k. Fusions have increased by 5 to 10k on last years price.

French Toast

timple23 wrote: »

Was comparing last years IFJ machinery price supplement with this year, most big machines/tractors have gone up by 1/2k. Fusions have increased by 5 to 10k on last years price.

It'll be interesting to see what it'll do to contracting if gear prices keep on the upwards trend. Not easy for a lad to start out of nothing at it now.

Grueller

timple23 wrote: »

Was comparing last years IFJ machinery price supplement with this year, most big machines/tractors have gone up by 1/2k. Fusions have increased by 5 to 10k on last years price.

That magazine is a crock of ****e. A NH t6.125s was listed at €113,000 last year. I priced a brand new one with an extra spool valve, large hydraulic pump and a quicke Q5m with multi Dock, self levelling and soft drive with an electronic joystick in nh blue. €83k all in. I said it to the dealer afterwards and he laughed and said never mind that yoke, they would sell twice as many tractors if that could be gotten out of circulation.

Grueller

French Toast wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see what it'll do to contracting if gear prices keep on the upwards trend. Not easy for a lad to start out of nothing at it now.

If he can get work in its no problem. All he needs is a pen to sign the finance agreements.

Morris Moss

Grueller wrote: »

That magazine is a crock of ****e. A NH t6.125s was listed at €113,000 last year. I priced a brand new one with an extra spool valve, large hydraulic pump and a quicke Q5m with multi Dock, self levelling and soft drive with an electronic joystick in nh blue. €83k all in. I said it to the dealer afterwards and he laughed and said never mind that yoke, they would sell twice as many tractors if that could be gotten out of circulation.

That including vat? Fair deal all the same.