Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

timple23

jaymla627 wrote: »

It doesn't make sense, every Irish dealer now usually has their bank details on any invoice produced, so how the man in question didn't get a invoice for goods purchased with bank details from machinery crowd that he checked thoroughly usually bank details are listed on alot of companies websites is baffling, also you'd imagine with the amount of money involved in all likelihood which was borrowed the financial institution should of taken care of the transition and ensured its legitamancy

You see the scammers have access to your email account.

So say Tom was buying something from John, Tom then gets an email from John's email address saying bank details have changed.

Saw this happen myself with an Irish business, only that the person who was paying the invoice phoned to say the got an email saying account details have changed and was just double checking. Would never have been noticed because email was deleted from sent folder. Scammers studied emails and learned that payments were being made 1st of every month, and sent an email on 29/30th saying details have changed. Figure involved would have been close to 6 figures.

funkey_monkey

Are you any better off paying through an intermediary such as PayPal? As long as you get your money to them then it is up to them to pass it on correctly.

Donald Trump

There is a thing called invoice redirection fraud.

Trinity College got stung for a lot in one scam I think a few years back.


The most basic way that it works is that, you do business with some company regularly enough. You get a fake email purporting to be from that business saying "we've changed out Bank account details to 1234567890". You don't question that and update your system. Then next money, you pay as normal. A few weeks later you get a reminder for non-payment. By that stage, the fake account has been long emptied and the money is gone.

That article seems to claim a different version which is that the sellers email was hacked. So one would imagine that that would put the onus on them. If the email was sent from their email account.

It could of course also just have been spoofed.

Donald Trump

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Are you any better off paying through an intermediary such as PayPal? As long as you get your money to them then it is up to them to pass it on correctly.

Yes, you will have more protection. But buying by credit card also gives you protection too.

One thing that you should never do though is to send money through paypal via "friends and family" transfer. That has no protection. It is basically like handing over cash.

Paypal take a few percent of a transferred amount, but it is much less for "friends and family" transfer. So some sellers might ask you to do that so that Paypal take a smaller cut.

I was once buying something relatively small online. Seller wanted me to do that but instead I agreed to pay a bit more to cover the charge. I mean if it was 100 quid, I transferred 103 so that they ended up with 100 but I still had the Paypal protection.

bamayang

We get a lot of those spam mails in work saying our payment details have changed.
Company policy is it must be confirmed over the phone before the account can be changed on payment system.

You’d be surprised the amount of times people genuinely do change their account though. I have to sign off on it and I’m always suspicious until confirmed over phone call.

mayota

How much would a Mchale bale splitter, or similar, be nowadays?

Tileman

mayota wrote: »

How much would a Mchale bale splitter, or similar, be nowadays?

€800-1100 on DoneDeal. €1300-1600 in dealer

9935452

Donald Trump wrote: »

Yes, you will have more protection. But buying by credit card also gives you protection too.

One thing that you should never do though is to send money through paypal via "friends and family" transfer. That has no protection. It is basically like handing over cash.

Paypal take a few percent of a transferred amount, but it is much less for "friends and family" transfer. So some sellers might ask you to do that so that Paypal take a smaller cut.

I was once buying something relatively small online. Seller wanted me to do that but instead I agreed to pay a bit more to cover the charge. I mean if it was 100 quid, I transferred 103 so that they ended up with 100 but I still had the Paypal protection.

Some lads will insist on the friends and family method . Because of the following
They sell something . It gets collected. Then the buyer claims he never got the item . Complains to paypal. Since there is no record of delivery. Paypal refunds the payment

ruwithme

mayota wrote: »

How much would a Mchale bale splitter, or similar, be nowadays?

€1575 inc vat in clarke machinery last November

timple23

How hard is it to arrange a demo of a machine (tedder) in summertime? Dealt with both dealers before, there is no machines being used in the locality that could be looked at. Wouldn't be buying one without a demo first.

Where would be best place to source a second hand loader,plus brackets,valves etc etc

Anyone specialising in likes of this?

jd_12345

timple23 wrote: »

How hard is it to arrange a demo of a machine (tedder) in summertime? Dealt with both dealers before, there is no machines being used in the locality that could be looked at. Wouldn't be buying one without a demo first.

I would think unless there’s potentially a lot of customers in your area or it’s a very new design it ain’t easy.

Surely unless it’s a massive machine (8/10 rotor) there’s one fairly local. As in within half an hours drive. There has to be some dealers nearby who have sold one or is it the particular brand you are looking for?

jd_12345

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where would be best place to source a second hand loader,plus brackets,valves etc etc

Anyone specialising in likes of this?

The loader is the easy part to get. It’s the brackets are the trouble. Afaik they’re very hard to get. Especially recently
Edit: In hindsight my post was less than helpful😂

DBK1

timple23 wrote: »

How hard is it to arrange a demo of a machine (tedder) in summertime? Dealt with both dealers before, there is no machines being used in the locality that could be looked at. Wouldn't be buying one without a demo first.

Unless it’s a new brand of machine your looking at then the chance of a demo is very slim.

When a dealer demo’s a machine it’ll knock 10 or 15% off it’s value straight away. That’s worth it if it’s a new brand or new model and they need to show what it can do and they’ll probably use the same demo machine at various demo’s all around the country.

To expect a demo of a tedder for one man who may or may not buy it wouldn’t justify the cost for the dealer at all. Especially if it’s a common brand like Lely, Claas, Krone etc. You’ll probably just be told they’re working all around the world tedding grass so there’s no reason they won’t do the same for you.

DBK1

Deleted User wrote: »

Where would be best place to source a second hand loader,plus brackets,valves etc etc

Anyone specialising in likes of this?

There’s a man in Monasterevin, Barry Fenton, who specialises in just loaders, new and second hand. Monasterevin Agri he trades as. Could be worth a call.

DBK1

DBK1 wrote: »

There’s a man in Monasterevin, Barry Fenton, who specialises in just loaders, new and second hand. Monasterevin Agri he trades as. Could be worth a call.

Thanks

Exactly what im looking,going by his facebook page,can fit em myself

Grueller

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where would be best place to source a second hand loader,plus brackets,valves etc etc

Anyone specialising in likes of this?

Google Barry Fenton in Monasterevin. Specialises in loaders. If he doesn't have it second hand he will know where it is or it is not available in the country.

Beaten to it above.

Donald Trump

9935452 wrote: »

Some lads will insist on the friends and family method . Because of the following
They sell something . It gets collected. Then the buyer claims he never got the item . Complains to paypal. Since there is no record of delivery. Paypal refunds the payment

If someone picks something up, you can have them sign a receipt that they picked it up. And then email them a copy of that receipt to their paypal registered address.


Paying someone as "friends and family" is akin to sending them an envelope of cash and hoping that they send you what you bought.

If they are picking it up, you can also ask for cash instead anyway. If posting it, you can get tracking

Dozer1

New to me splitter, spotless in fairness.
I know it's the old model but will see me out not too heavy on the tractor aswell.
Worked on the few bales I opened today anyway

Reggie.

Dozer1 wrote: »

New to me splitter, spotless in fairness.
I know it's the old model but will see me out not too heavy on the tractor aswell.
Worked on the few bales I opened today anyway

Well wear

murrak123

Does anyone know is it possible to get a homemade car trailer plated. Based in the northwest/midlands.

lakill Farm

murrak123 wrote: »

Does anyone know is it possible to get a homemade car trailer plated. Based in the northwest/midlands.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/air-brakes-fitted-to-all-agricultural-trailers/23111596?campaign=14


This lad retro fitted hydraulic brakes to the grain trailer for me about 2 years ago. He also "plates"a agri trailers. Well worth asking him . im Westmeath and he had no issue travelling to me .

funkey_monkey

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Just finished the slurry spreading before the bad weather comes in. It was thick stuff. Might as well have put out the midden with the tanker.

Got finished late and so was thinking about retrofitting LED work lights onto rear of tanker.
Seems to be 2 trains of though here:
1. Use fog light wiring in existing cabling
2. 3-core back to the power socket

I am thinking more to the latter as the tractor doesn't have a fog light switch. I'd put in an inline switch into cable inside the cab to operate the lights in field.
The D-plug in tractor should have an earth, switched live and a permanent live - so just a matter of ensuring I get wired into switched live.

Has anyone done this before? What approach was taken?

My latest thought here is to use a light switch for a motorbike handlebar and use a quick-fit clip to snap it onto a door bar. Lights are ordered and I've sufficient cabling. Seen some nice waterproof connections on the net, so I'm getting ready to go here.

I see IFarm WeFarm has just bought a new-to-him 2000R Abbey tanker and is going to upgrade the lights at the back. I think part of it is that he's going to put flashers on it - see read in comments he said will 'something better than a beacon'. Guessing he is putting some sort of high mount LED light bar on it with integrated work lights and beacon - maybe even second set of signal lights.
I'll hold off to see what his guy does first

timple23

funkey_monkey wrote: »

My latest thought here is to use a light switch for a motorbike handlebar and use a quick-fit clip to snap it onto a door bar. Lights are ordered and I've sufficient cabling. Seen some nice waterproof connections on the net, so I'm getting ready to go here.

I see IFarm WeFarm has just bought a new-to-him 2000R Abbey tanker and is going to upgrade the lights at the back. I think part of it is that he's going to put flashers on it - see read in comments he said will 'something better than a beacon'. Guessing he is putting some sort of high mount LED light bar on it with integrated work lights and beacon - maybe even second set of signal lights.

He's going putting an led light bar around the wheelarch like the side of an artic trailer anyway:(

ruwithme

New tyres & rims,nearly new pump,new decals,new gate valve,new rubber hoses for vacuum pump,probably missing something,oh & the new lights.

Don't get me wrong,but he'd being as well go new & he will likely respray much of it by his own admission sometime ahead.

mengele

ruwithme wrote: »

New tyres & rims,nearly new pump,new decals,new gate valve,new rubber hoses for vacuum pump,probably missing something,oh & the new lights.

Don't get me wrong,but he'd being as well go new & he will likely respray much of it by his own admission sometime ahead.

You can get great deals on 2nd hand tanks now though as no one wants them. New tanks are gone very dear due to the grant

kevthegaff

mengele wrote: »

You can get great deals on 2nd hand tanks now though as no one wants them. New tanks are gone very dear due to the grant

Picked up a grand 1600 gallon for 4500,sold old one for 1500.

funkey_monkey

ruwithme wrote: »

New tyres & rims,nearly new pump,new decals,new gate valve,new rubber hoses for vacuum pump,probably missing something,oh & the new lights.

Don't get me wrong,but he'd being as well go new & he will likely respray much of it by his own admission sometime ahead.

Plus dribble bar in future.

To be fair we don't know what he paid for it and it is a very straight tanker with an essentially new pump on it. The hoses were put on by the seller and I don't think them and the washdown valve would have broke the bank.
It does need tyres but he has recouped some money there by selling on the old ones. I've no idea of the cost of them new though - anyone?

I'd not decal it up without a full respray and TBH - respraying a tanker is not really a big job. Good wash, sand and prime the rust spots and blow a couple of coats over it. Abbeys can have poor paint on them for fading and if he tackles the rust now then it'll do a tidy fella like him most of his days.

He did mention that he might be rubber lining the wheel arches to protect against further corrosion.

It'll come in cheaper than a new one definitely and the videos from doing it up will gather in a few quid too .


I like the idea of the extended exhaust hose - would also help for sucking up diesel after its work.

funkey_monkey

timple23 wrote: »

He's going putting an led light bar around the wheelarch like the side of an artic trailer anyway:(

I'll hold fire to see what he does, but I think a couple of work lights will suffice for me!

funkey_monkey

kevthegaff wrote: »

Picked up a grand 1600 gallon for 4500,sold old one for 1500.

Did you get it in Lakeland Farm Machinery?
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