Do you ever go for massages?

greenspurs

Lillyfae wrote: »

If you practice in this area I would fear for the safety of your clients. Just a reminder, I've purposely quoted in full so as not to take anything out of context:







If you are offered a handjob with your massage then you're in a brothel, just to clarify. You're paying for sexual services and not a massage.

Theres always one ………………. :rolleyes:
#Police

Sundaygames

I've only ever had "legit" massages in a spa. Some of those have been really hot though, because the masseuse was really attractive.

@LaptopGremlin

Have you ever had a massage that ended up eliciting a physical response, perhaps unintended?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Lillyfae wrote: »

If you practice in this area I would fear for the safety of your clients. Just a reminder, I've purposely quoted in full so as not to take anything out of context:







If you are offered a handjob with your massage then you're in a brothel, just to clarify. You're paying for sexual services and not a massage.

I'm just glad I'm not his GP.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Lillyfae wrote: »

If you practice in this area I would fear for the safety of your clients. Just a reminder, I've purposely quoted in full so as not to take anything out of context:

You see, that's a part of the problem with society right there.

We are man.

You think just cause a dude is health care professional, he's not subject to the same desires and needs as any other swinging phallus?

That lurid creepy looking dude hung outside the chip shop late Saturday night?
A university professor of cardiac surgery and hospital consultant?

What do they have in common?

Yeah - they both like to get their rocks off - and are basically looking to do it, all of the time.

What you must understand is, any high level professional, inside the hours of his business, knows to implement a professional level of control on their desires.


Yes, I do practice in the area.
No, I have never compromised professionalism, nor do I have the slightest fear I ever would.
Yes, females have made passes and sexual gestures toward me during business hours.
And so long as I'm on the clock - this is simply a no go area for me.

Outside of business hours?

I'm just like every other slime ball, walking up the high street with a creepy smile, leering at hotties, in nightclubs, hooking up with college girls etc.

And yes, in massage parlors, trying to get sticky.

I'm a man, I like to get my rocks off - and I'll never apologize for that.
But don't make the mistake of thinking that impacts my ability to conduct and behave myself like a consummate professional during times when it's appropriate.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Sundaygames wrote: »

I've only ever had "legit" massages in a spa. Some of those have been really hot though, because the masseuse was really attractive.

@LaptopGremlin

Have you ever had a massage that ended up eliciting a physical response, perhaps unintended?

Yes, plenty of times.

In fact, that's the primary reason I attend massage parlors - see if my game is up to par/try to seduce the masseuse, basically.

It's always a good time.

Captain Flaps

Best massage I ever had was in the Imperial Hotel in Cork. Got chatting to the masseuse, the usual bull**** until she mentioned that she was a cage fighter and was doing physical therapy training. She noticed I have bad muscle problems and knots in my shoulders and upper back so after a bit of back and forth and exploratory probing we went from the usual luxury hotel spa experience to this woman basically beating the **** out of my upper back for an hour. My partner was disappointed with her therapist (bit ineffectual, just gently swishing hands around) but mine was bloody marvelous and I felt like superman for days afterwards.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Lillyfae wrote: »

If you are offered a handjob with your massage then you're in a brothel, just to clarify. You're paying for sexual services and not a massage.

Also - by your definition - what would you say the ratio of "brothels" to massage parlors in Dublin, is?

corner of hells

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

Also - by your definition - what would you say the ratio of "brothels" to massage parlors in Dublin, is?

A cousin of mine has his own business providing security for massage parlours / brothels, strippers and working girls.

bo0li5eumx12kp

corner of hells wrote: »

A cousin of mine has his own business providing security for massage parlours / brothels, strippers and working girls.......and business is good.

Fixed that for you.

corner of hells

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

No , I'm tin roofing, just like you.

bo0li5eumx12kp

corner of hells wrote: »

No , I'm tin roofing, just like you.

Lillyfae

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

Yeah - they both like to get their rocks off - and are basically looking to do it, all of the time.

I've said before, I live in the Benelux region. Mixed, nude saunas are quite common here and I attend every few months, as do most people I know. I've often done sessions such as Rasul, where you sit/stand in a sauna and rub yourself with clay, in a group, for anything up to 30 minutes. There are 13 saunas in total in the complex that I go to, all full of naked people being splashed with water from a Eucalyptus branch in 80 degree heat, rubbing themselves with salt in a Turkish bath, many strange and wonderful things, all naked- clothing is just not hygienic in such a setting. Nobody considers it to be sexual.

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

What you must understand is, any high level professional, inside the hours of his business, knows to implement a professional level of control on their desires.

Yes, I do practice in the area.
No, I have never compromised professionalism, nor do I have the slightest fear I ever would.
Yes, females have made passes and sexual gestures toward me during business hours.
And so long as I'm on the clock - this is simply a no go area for me.

I'm a man, I like to get my rocks off - and I'll never apologize for that.
But don't make the mistake of thinking that impacts my ability to conduct and behave myself like a consummate professional during times when it's appropriate.

Your above comment is not normal, just as expecting a massage therapist to find you attractive and give you a handjob is not normal. If you are even having thoughts like this about your clients you are a risk and the only responsible thing for you to do is to take action to mitigate that risk.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Lillyfae wrote: »

I've said before, I live in the Benelux region. Mixed, nude saunas are quite common here and I attend every few months, as do most people I know. I've often done sessions such as Rasul, where you sit/stand in a sauna and rub yourself with clay, in a group, for anything up to 30 minutes. There are 13 saunas in total in the complex that I go to, all full of naked people being splashed with water from a Eucalyptus branch in 80 degree heat, rubbing themselves with salt in a Turkish bath, many strange and wonderful things, all naked- clothing is just not hygienic in such a setting. Nobody considers it to be sexual.

lol - hold up here for one hot minute.

The, "Benelux" region, hmm?
A quick google search and the official language is dutch - seems to be primarily a dutch/Belgian region.

So, if I understand you correctly - you're claiming that region is a, "get naked, but not sexual", kind of deal?

lol - that area is perv central.
The Dutch endorse hooking, encourage it even.
There's probably more pervs per capita there than anywhere else in the world.

They understand the human requisite to get sticky, and thus have not only endorsed it, but regulate it. Government over sight to ensure everything goes down efficiently, and with a base code of conduct (something many other governments insist on turning a blind eye to).
Depravity is a part of their culture.

Bad example to use as a means to demonstrate that "forward thinking" = "sexual deprivation".

If your argument is "getting naked, does not = sexual", then going to the swimming pool, the beach etc, also not sexual; which it's not.
But it's not, because there's the conscious implementation of correct behavior to facilitate an environment as such.

If anything, you're reinforcing the overall point I'm making.
Just cause we exhibit restraint and correct behavior in one environment, doesn't mean we can't act more so on our carnal impulses in another.
You dig??

You think when some dudes leave the bath house, they don't go home and shoot into a kleenex over the thought of some 20 year old breasteses being splashed with mineral water that they saw in living color a few minutes earlier?

lol

Your above comment is not normal, just as expecting a massage therapist to find you attractive and give you a handjob is not normal. If you are even having thoughts like this about your clients you are a risk and the only responsible thing for you to do is to take action to mitigate that risk.

What's not normal here, my sweet - is your attitude.

You see, I know chicks like to get sweaty also. Now, they typically don't show it, cause the ugly reality is - most men simply aren't hot enough to elicit that.

What is this about thoughts of my clients?
Some chick comes in and gets her kit off and maneuvers herself suggestively about the table?
What exactly do you think I'm gonna do?

Endanger my license and ability to practice and my income, over something that's simply unethical?

Restraint, and cognizance - it inhibits these thoughts, in these situations.

And then somehow using that as a means to tell me I'm not "normal" for having sexual feelings outside of that setting?
And then actually insinuating I may even potentially be a danger - simply because I'm a man and my "gear" functions with normal frequency??



......

This initiated as me asking what you felt the benefits of pregnancy massage were, and specifically what techniques were used, and the form of therapist carried it out, physio, massage etc?

A point I'm still interested in.
But don't try and turn it around into some kind of feminist repressive regime of self validation, hmm?


And PS - yes I'll try and seduce a regular masseuse if the feelings are right (and try to get her to give me much more than just a handjob).
Makes me a red blooded male - and there's nothing more "normal" than that.
Sorry if it gets you rustled...... but we are man.

razorblunt

WTF

Wibbs

Lillyfae wrote: »

Your above comment is not normal

Oh stick around L, that particular user seems to have but a passing notion of what constitutes normal.

corner of hells

razorblunt wrote: »

WTF

Some early morning comedy gold.

greenspurs

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

lol - hold up here for one hot minute.

The, "Benelux" region, hmm?
A quick google search and the official language is dutch - seems to be primarily a dutch/Belgian region.

So, if I understand you correctly - you're claiming that region is a, "get naked, but not sexual", kind of deal?

lol - that area is perv central.
The Dutch endorse hooking, encourage it even.
There's probably more pervs per capita there than anywhere else in the world.

They understand the human requisite to get sticky, and thus have not only endorsed it, but regulate it. Government over sight to ensure everything goes down efficiently, and with a base code of conduct (something many other governments insist on turning a blind eye to).
Depravity is a part of their culture.

Bad example to use as a means to demonstrate that "forward thinking" = "sexual deprivation".

If your argument is "getting naked, does not = sexual", then going to the swimming pool, the beach etc, also not sexual; which it's not.
But it's not, because there's the conscious implementation of correct behavior to facilitate an environment as such.

If anything, you're reinforcing the overall point I'm making.
Just cause we exhibit restraint and correct behavior in one environment, doesn't mean we can't act more so on our carnal impulses in another.
You dig??

You think when some dudes leave the bath house, they don't go home and shoot into a kleenex over the thought of some 20 year old breasteses being splashed with mineral water that they saw in living color a few minutes earlier?

lol



What's not normal here, my sweet - is your attitude.

You see, I know chicks like to get sweaty also. Now, they typically don't show it, cause the ugly reality is - most men simply aren't hot enough to elicit that.

What is this about thoughts of my clients?
Some chick comes in and gets her kit off and maneuvers herself suggestively about the table?
What exactly do you think I'm gonna do?

Endanger my license and ability to practice and my income, over something that's simply unethical?

Restraint, and cognizance - it inhibits these thoughts, in these situations.

And then somehow using that as a means to tell me I'm not "normal" for having sexual feelings outside of that setting?
And then actually insinuating I may even potentially be a danger - simply because I'm a man and my "gear" functions with normal frequency??



......

This initiated as me asking what you felt the benefits of pregnancy massage were, and specifically what techniques were used, and the form of therapist carried it out, physio, massage etc?

A point I'm still interested in.
But don't try and turn it around into some kind of feminist repressive regime of self validation, hmm?


And PS - yes I'll try and seduce a regular masseuse if the feelings are right (and try to get her to give me much more than just a handjob).
Makes me a red blooded male - and there's nothing more "normal" than that.
Sorry if it gets you rustled...... but we are man.

I think you should have got rid of the 'morning glory' before you typed all that ….

:rolleyes:

Lillyfae

Oh dear, you had to Google the Benelux region? We speak Dutch, Flemish, French and German officially here- English is also a widely used language. In the Netherlands, prostitution is legal and as well regulated as it can be- which means that despite regulation, trafficking and coercion is still a feature and every precaution needs to be taken in order to stamp it out completely. Keeping accounts, paying taxes and having regular, mandatory health checks makes it safer- doesn't that sound a bit boring and normal? I have the utmost respect for sex workers, both male and female. There are probably some who provide massage services as well as sexual services, both separately and together, but make no mistake- if you receive a hand job during an appointment for a massage, that is sex work.

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

get sticky

get sweaty

my "gear"

The irony of anyone who uses those terms in place of ejaculation, orgasm, intercouse, penetration and penis/ vagina or whatever multitude of terms we have accusing me of sexual repression- delicious!! I'd rather interact normally with people I have a sexual attraction to rather than

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

gets her kit off and maneuvers herself suggestively about the table

in order to

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

seduce a regular masseuse

I have no problem with seeing, talking about, or doing sex. Nudity is not sex. Saunas are not sex. Massages are not sex.

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

simply because I'm a man

Women can be creeps and slimeballs too, although I would suspect that you tend towards the pick up artist side of things which is definitely the making of a lesser man

Dramatik

I think we might need an AMA with a massage therapist to clear up a few things

bo0li5eumx12kp

Dramatik wrote: »

I think we might need an AMA with a massage therapist to clear up a few things

I tried to get that going here but - they were kind of shy about it.

greenspurs

I have had lots of massages.
Both here in Ireland, and outside also, and by men, and by women also.

They have all been 'legit' places, so no extras asked or offered.
To be honest , it doesn't matter to me if its a woman or a man doing the rubbing, I just like a nice relaxing massage, eyes closed, and let the oils work.

Funniest was while on hols in Bulgaria, went to place for massage, it was like a roman bath, men and women in there together, all just wearing those paper underwear things … it was a hot mud massage! It was divine !! amazing feeling....
One guy was on the table , and when the girl got him to turn over, his member just popped out of the paper underwear... the masseuse just popped it back in for him !
Everyone just laughed …. That was probably the best massage I ever had !

smilerf

Only massages I've was when I was in rehab in Dun Laoghaire
My back was totally seized up so they were not pleasent to massages

Lillyfae

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Fully qualified massage therapist here, so yes.

If I paraphrase the lovely Princess Consuela we kind of DO have an AMA...

Deleted User wrote: »

How does one become a fully qualified massage therapist?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

One studies and earns a qualification in holistic massage.

BDI wrote: »

Biggest perv in school gets sent to massage school by career guidance.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That would have been the vice-principal.

In response to our OPs attitude:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'm just glad I'm not his GP.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Lillyfae wrote: »

Oh dear, you had to Google the Benelux region? We speak Dutch, Flemish, French and German officially here- English is also a widely used language. In the Netherlands, prostitution is legal and as well regulated as it can be- which means that despite regulation, trafficking and coercion is still a feature and every precaution needs to be taken in order to stamp it out completely. Keeping accounts, paying taxes and having regular, mandatory health checks makes it safer- doesn't that sound a bit boring and normal? I have the utmost respect for sex workers, both male and female. There are probably some who provide massage services as well as sexual services, both separately and together, but make no mistake- if you receive a hand job during an appointment for a massage, that is sex work.

Okay so, once again - what do figure the ratio of massage parlors to "brothels" (your definition) is, in Dublin?

Ook - doorgaan met Nederlands. Engels, Nederlands, allebei - het maakt niet uit voor mij.

Nudity is not sex.

Not directly - but in the normal course of events, it's a prerequisite, and typically an allusion to it.

Saunas are not sex.

lol - clearly you've never been to the YMCA.

Massages are not sex.

This is like a culmination of the former two in that, it's nudity and hotness/sweaty'ness - plus physical contact.

AW LAWD!!

Women can be creeps and slimeballs too

No sh1t!
My only concern is that they're HOT creepy slimeballs.

....

AW LAWD!!

although I would suspect that you tend towards the pick up artist side of things which is definitely the making of a lesser man

Pure conjecture.
There's no statistics or large scale trials to either confirm or deny this.


PS - do you think your friendly local university graduated male physiotherapist who treats males and females in a professional setting day in day out, doesn't like to get a rub down and some hand "relief" from time to time also?
Cause you know - we are man.

You seem to have poor ability to either comprehend or just simply accept this fact.

bo0li5eumx12kp

greenspurs wrote: »

I have had lots of massages.
Both here in Ireland, and outside also, and by men, and by women also.

They have all been 'legit' places, so no extras asked or offered.
To be honest , it doesn't matter to me if its a woman or a man doing the rubbing, I just like a nice relaxing massage, eyes closed, and let the oils work.

I'm just gonna go on record here as saying, I would LOVE if there were more places that offered this at a reasonable price, in professional manner.

But alas - the majority of outlets opt for the easier/more profitable/stickier option.

Captain Flaps

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

Okay so, once again - what do figure the ratio of massage parlors to "brothels" (your definition) is, in Dublin?

Ook - doorgaan met Nederlands. Engels, Nederlands, allebei - het maakt niet uit voor mij.



Not directly - but in the normal course of events, it's a prerequisite, and typically an allusion to it.



lol - clearly you've never been to the YMCA.



This is like a culmination of the former two in that, it's nudity and hotness/sweaty'ness - plus physical contact.

AW LAWD!!



No sh1t!
My only concern is that they're HOT creepy slimeballs.

....

AW LAWD!!



Pure conjecture.
There's no statistics or large scale trials to either confirm or deny this.


PS - do you think your friendly local university graduated male physiotherapist who treats males and females in a professional setting day in day out, doesn't like to get a rub down and some hand "relief" from time to time also?
Cause you know - we are man.

You seem to have poor ability to either comprehend or just simply accept this fact.

Ok seriously what is actually wrong with you

Spleerbun

I think laptop gremlin is my new favourite poster

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Ok seriously what is actually wrong with you

My guess is that he's been overfed.

fallen01angel

Female here,I had a couple of massages done by girls in hotel spas that were fine, the gentle generic kind of stuff. But on a trip to Ennis I treated myself to a deep tissue massage, my body was in bits with aches and pains. I specifically requested a guy as I have quite a high pain threshold and am kind of bendy.
The premises weren't the prettiest and I did have a bit of a panic thinking is this a happy ending kind of place.
He was completely professional and I can safely say it was the best massage experience I've ever had, if you ever have aches/pains and have never had yourself a deep tissue massage you have no idea what you're missing out onðŸ‘ðŸ‘

petr1

Na, never been to.

To fugly/self conscious/hairy/ etc

Would love to though.

Foam roller is my masseuse. My legs usually have a yellow tinge (bruises) on them.

last password

hi any details of the places for good massage

The One Doctor

Kole Nutty Track wrote: »

Okay so, once again - what do figure the ratio of massage parlors to "brothels" (your definition) is, in Dublin?

Ook - doorgaan met Nederlands. Engels, Nederlands, allebei - het maakt niet uit voor mij.



Not directly - but in the normal course of events, it's a prerequisite, and typically an allusion to it.



lol - clearly you've never been to the YMCA.



This is like a culmination of the former two in that, it's nudity and hotness/sweaty'ness - plus physical contact.

AW LAWD!!



No sh1t!
My only concern is that they're HOT creepy slimeballs.

....

AW LAWD!!



Pure conjecture.
There's no statistics or large scale trials to either confirm or deny this.


PS - do you think your friendly local university graduated male physiotherapist who treats males and females in a professional setting day in day out, doesn't like to get a rub down and some hand "relief" from time to time also?
Cause you know - we are man.

You seem to have poor ability to either comprehend or just simply accept this fact.

Dude... ease up on the drugs.

bo0li5eumx12kp

last password wrote: »

hi any details of the places for good massage

Me personally - no.

But this may be of assistance.