Expectation of Men to do physical Work in certain Jobs

Problem Of Motivation

With this thread I hope to highlight the situation that some men are put in with the expectations upon them to do the lifting, and how people may take for granted of them. The problem is that people will think a guy is a pussy if he takes caution or refuses to lift things, but I would actually say that sometimes it takes courage to refuse to lift.

One day in a factory where I worked, I was being passed heavy boxes over 4 foot wall. It wasn't in my usual line of work. I said I'd do a few, but then the boxes just kept coming and coming. Eventually I put my foot down and said to the supervisor "I need to know how many more of these boxes are due to come, and I might need help in lifting them". He was surprised that I said this and smiled at me. He said "yeah yeah, of course", and I called another guy from further up the line to come lift with me. I'm bloody glad I did ask for help because there were about another 40 boxes came!! It wasn't just the fact that it was badly planned, but the attitude of the supervisor when I spoke up. And I know it's very unlikely but any time a freak accident happens, it will be a guy that gets something like a finger chopped off.

Another time I remember when I was taking bacterial samples in a factory, once part I had to get to was up a high ladder. The lady showing the routine (first day) had to get another guy to go up there to show me the routine because she was "afraid of heights". When it came to asking someone to climb the ladder for her, there was this sudden change in her demeanor and she sort of acted like a little girl... like it was supposed to be cute that she couldn't be bothered putting herself at risk. She eventually said to a senior male colleague "can you get 'one of the lads' to go up there for me?". He replied "if you want me to go up the ladder, just ask". He had to bring me up and show me what to do.

Story about another manual Labor Dilemma I once faced

Another day at this factory I was working on a production line and part of the task involved lifting 25 kg boxes from a pallet and lifting them over to the conveyor line. There were about three people on each side of the production line, but the pallet of boxes was on one side of the conveyor. After a few minutes of work, the supervisor (female) came by and just said "two guys on this side". Seeing as I had been doing all the lifting work the previous day, I decided I'd stay where I was on the side that didn't involve lifting. Another poor guy on my side realised that I wasn't budging so he moved over instead of me. For the next hour I could tell that he was sort of looking over towards me with disgust at my laziness. You see if it were a male supervisor calling these same shots then at least I might feel that he'd have done years of lifting himself!

But the previous day when I had been doing all the heavy lifting, I had made sure that I was lifting correctly, and that I took my time. At one point in time I could see this supervisor staring at me. Maybe I'm surmising, but it was as if she was thinking to herself "would that lazy guy not go a bit faster?". When there was a bit of down time, I decided to sit on the boxes for about 30 seconds or so. Every now and then when I'd sit on the boxes I'd be aware that she could see, and I knew that I wouldn't get into trouble as long as I didn't do it right in front of her. But this day, I'd had enough of her nastiness towards me. I sat there until I knew she'd have to do something. She gave a gesture with here hands for me to get up, as if I was a dog almost. I just looked right at her. I got up in my own time... albeit only a few seconds later. But it was enough to piss her off. Straight away she walkie talkied to some manager, and then told me to report to him. I said to her that if that manager wants to speak to me, then he knows where I am. At this point she threw a complete tantrum.

Later she was gossiping about me to other Polish fork lift drivers that were passing by. I could tell by the way they were looking over at me. For about the next hour I was fearing when and if that manager was going to show up and see me, and what would happen if he did? He didn't show in the end! I'm not saying I got away with it, but that was all that happen that day.

Beechwoodspark

Sounds like a potential case of bullying OP

ILoveYourVibes

Expectation of Men to do physical Work in certain Jobs

I expect physically strong men to do physical work etc. Obv not all men are as physically strong or as fit as others.

You were right to look after your body OP.

They should realize that kind of work you need to be broken in to gradually etc.

Just because you are a man doesn't mean you can do things some other men can do. Your body is individual.

And it does not sound like it was your job.

They should that job needs the person to build up a level of strength and fitness.

Not all guys can do the lifting.

Uncharted

TLDR.

OP is lazy

BDI

Were you the lad who never had his runners on P.E. day and had to sit in the corner?

Problem Of Motivation

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Sounds like a potential case of bullying OP

Oh you're so funny. I can see why you like boards! You little cowardly keyboard warrior.

HappyAsLarE

Relatively speaking, you’re a bit soft.

BDI

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Oh you're so funny. I can see why you like boards! You little cowardly keyboard warrior.

Careful lads, he spent a day lifting 25kg boxes.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Here we go again. Even a carton of milk was a problem.

Sir Osis of Liver.

Maybe factory lifting work doesn't suit you.
Ever considered becoming a masseur?Plenty of links to places in the massage thread.
Good money to be made in diddy **** I'd say.

Roger Hassenforder

Bro, do you even lift?

Roger Hassenforder

OP Username checks out too

ILoveYourVibes

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Relatively speaking, you’re a bit soft.

Not necessarily not being able for hard physical labor doesn't mean a man is soft.

I doubt Rees Moggs wouldn't last a min in a job requiring hard labor. I wouldn't call him soft.

Beechwoodspark

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Oh you're so funny. I can see why you like boards! You little cowardly keyboard warrior.

I meant they were bullying u

riffmongous

the current state of AH trolls

Problem Of Motivation

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I meant they were bullying u

Sorry, you're right. I'm just so used to sarcasm from people on boards.

Beechwoodspark

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Sorry, you're right. I'm just so used to sarcasm from people on boards.

Well I’m not being sarcastic I was just giving my opinion on what you wrote.

Beechwoodspark

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

Sorry, you're right. I'm just so used to sarcasm from people on boards.

Well I’m not being sarcastic I was just giving my opinion on what you wrote.

pinkyeye

OP, you're lazy and if you've only just started in this job you're going to get the sack without a doubt.

Problem Of Motivation

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

I'm just so used to sarcasm from people on boards.

You're too fat-skinned for that.

Problem Of Motivation

pinkyeye wrote: »

OP, you're lazy and if you've only just started in this job you're going to get the sack without a doubt.

These stories were from a while back as you should be able to tell from my phrases like "I remember once".

Wanderer2010

This is still definitely a thing. I see it in my work and even though there are countless campaigns emphasising health and safety and to "share the load" when lifting or transporting loads from one area to the other there is still a hidden inference that by actually asking for help, you are being a bit of a nuisance and are somehow less of a man for asking. Now for me to say that I have evidence to back it up as I have seen lots of guys roll their eyes when asked to help me and a little passive aggressive dig or joke along the lines of "Jaysus did you ever put your back into anything?" which I usually respond with "this place isn't worth putting your back OUT for!".

Of course this is just my workplace and experience, im sure all workplaces are different.

wexandproud

looks too me like you have two problems . One is doing a bit of physical work and the other is being supervised by a female

Problem Of Motivation

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

I have evidence to back it up as I have seen lots of guys roll their eyes when asked to help me and a little passive aggressive dig or joke along the lines of "Jaysus did you ever put your back into anything?" which I usually respond with "this place isn't worth putting your back OUT for!".

Oh yes, I love good retorts like that. That was good!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

These stories were from a while back as you should be able to tell from my phrases like "I remember once".

Going by all your work issues posted this year, you go through jobs at an alarming rate.

Now, what could be the common denominator?

Roger Hassenforder

Adrian Future Cheesecake wrote: »

Going by all your work issues posted this year, you go through jobs at an alarming rate.

Now, what could be the common denominator?

Could it be...




Could it be...



Could it be....



A motivation issue?






Ill get me coat and see myself out. Dont get up

wexandproud

Adrian Future Cheesecake wrote: »

Going by all your work issues posted this year, you go through jobs at an alarming rate.

Now, what could be the common denominator?

its like when one person tells you , ''you have a problem'' then you can question him but if everybody tell you , ''you have a problem '' . then its time to question yourself

ILoveYourVibes

OP if physical work isn't for you then you should try for a job that doesn't require it.

Irritates me a bit that too. I work in a majority female building. Most of the men in there are life long pen pushers and desperately unfit. But we are always called for some lifting or pushing stalled cars. I get particularly pissed off when asked to lift a box that is light.

Just be thinking why can't you carry that yourself. Bur you'd be the talk of the building if you refused though.

The building is always warm. I don't want to go back to my desk a sweaty mess any more than the women do.

Problem Of Motivation

Deleted User wrote: »

The building is always warm.

That's probably the women's call too!

wexandproud

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

That's probably the women's call too!

seem you really do have a problem with the women folk

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Problem Of Motivation wrote: »

That's probably the women's call too!

A woman told you to get the milk.
A woman was smoking while instructing you.
A woman made fun of you playing the radio in the canteen.

It's quite clear that you have serious issues with any woman telling you what to do. I thought we had moved on from this attitude in this country.

I think it's a problem of motivation

Yer Da sells Avon

I knew a woman once, but she died soon afterwards.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

bluewolf wrote: »

I think it's a problem of motivation

Unfortunately so.

Sunny Disposition

There are people who don’t respect manual work or workers and who expect others to do things they wouldn’t do themselves, male and female.
Those people are not to be respected!

tigerboon

In fairness to the OP, his boss called him over out of the blue and expected to throw probably about a quarter tonne of boxes at him (estimated 40 x heavy box). That's a bit ignorant if nothing else. In the 2nd example, 25kg is a heavy box. Bag of cement is 15kg. If there's any more than a few then it's a 2 man job. The tone of the post doesn't earn the OP any sympathy however.

beauf

If you injure yourself doing lifting you're not used to good luck getting any help or even paid after that.

Greyfox

I have lovely soft hands as I sit in front of a pc all day and if lifting is required at home that's what the landlord is for. I just want my cup of tea on the evening so I can't devote any time to the whole lifting thing, it's just not for me

ILoveYourVibes

Greyfox wrote: »

I have lovely soft hands as I sit in front of a pc all day and if lifting is required at home that's what the landlord is for. I just want my cup of tea on the evening so I can't devote any time to the whole lifting thing, it's just not for me

Know thy self and to thine own self be true.

wakka12

You seem to really rub people up the wrong way from what you say in your posts anyway. It does sound like they are being unfair toward you, especially your supervisor, but you dont seem to be dealing with the episodes of confrontation very well or maturely at all either.

Silentcorner

wakka12 wrote: »

You seem to really rub people up the wrong way from what you say in your posts anyway. It does sound like they are being unfair toward you, especially your supervisor, but you dont seem to be dealing with the episodes of confrontation very well or maturely at all either.

He is dealing with an amateur supervisor, who has fostered a fairly noxious working environment, as amateurs tend to do and he is struggling to stand up for himself in a manner that is effective for him...if this was a young woman who was being made to make the tea for everyone or expected to clean the kitchen the tone of this thread would be a little different also!

greencap

theres no problem op.

we lift the shyte, they look after the kids.

biceps and boobies.

blinding

Aren’t women supposed to give you sex for doing physical work ?

Force Carrier

blinding wrote: »

Aren’t women supposed to give you sex for doing physical work ?

Sexing women counts as physical work.
How much more work must we do??

blinding

Force Carrier wrote: »

Sexing women counts as physical work.
How much more work must we do??

No matter how much you do for them they always want more

My Cocks wore down

Force Carrier

blinding wrote: »

No matter how much you do for them they always want more

My Cocks wore down

Less is more.

Dave_The_Sheep

Anecdotal bull**** coming right up.

Used to work in a sports store in Liffey Valley. Boxes of gear used to come in boxes that had to be carried upstairs. Not a single female carried those 20+ daily boxes up to the stockroom upstairs. Few females even worked in the stockroom other than the unboxing jobs.

Generally, the girls did the clothing lines, the guys did the footwear lines, the guys did the stockroom. There were occasional exceptions, but they were serious outliers.

All that being said, I don't really care. They got paid 77% less than I did so **** it.

Force Carrier

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

They got paid 77% less

Too right.

You were doing all the foot work.

Dave_The_Sheep

For the record I was taking the piss entirely.

ILoveYourVibes

Being passed never ending boxes over a wall....sounds like a dream.