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How are ye dealing with the compulsory homosexuality in Ireland?

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    #302
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    jochenstacker wrote: »
    And you know what you're going to do about it?
    You're going to post aggressive sh*t about it on an internet forum, safe behind your keyboard.
    And you know what else you'll do?
    Nothing, the LGBTQ community has a right to exist and they can be as butch or camp about it as they like.
    If it offends the good sir, may I suggest the following course of action.

    IMF]

    This post doesn't even attempt to debate what the user said. Just another bs whataboutry post looking for thanks with a highly educated pic attached.


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    #303
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    This post doesn't even attempt to debate what the user said. Just another bs whataboutry post looking for thanks with a highly educated pic attached.

    There really isn't anything to debate in his post though. He holds a pretty dickish opinion about a group that don't impact him in the slightest.


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    #304
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    This post doesn't even attempt to debate what the user said. Just another bs whataboutry post looking for thanks with a highly educated pic attached.

    Just as the poster in question didn’t attempt to debate what I said to him. So this pictorial response to him is justified. By his own ‘logic’ he ‘pussied out’


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    #305
    nkl12xtw5goz70
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    dont bother wrote: »
    they are Jealous. why? they see the legitimisation of being gay as "rubbing it in their face" why? because Gays finally have options.
    they are stuck with some moaning woman, who then has kids, which means they are forced to work to pay for the kid for pretty much the rest of their days.

    they are financially burdened by the very life they "choose" to live (ie: the straight one) , they are stuck in the rat-race of the straight life... they MUST go to their mundane jobs to support "the family" and they are essentially imprisoned. they HATE that gays can keep all their earnings for themselves if they choose, there'll be no moaning wife, they can continue to go to the pub/drink/socialise like they were still 18.

    they are simply Jealous that gay men are not "Stuck" into the rat-race life of the straight man.

    Where to start with this?

    -- The fact that a man identifies as gay doesn't mean he has never had sex with a woman, or that he has no children. It's also possible for gay couples to adopt.

    -- Many lesbians also have children, either through relationships with men, artificial insemination or IVF, or adoption.

    -- Most gays and lesbians also go to their "mundane jobs" and work to support themselves.

    -- The assumption that gays and lesbians are all out there carrying on like they're still 18 is stereotyping at its worst.


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    #306
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Terrell Nutritious Lubricant wrote: »
    Where to start with this?

    -- The fact that a man identifies as gay doesn't mean he has never had sex with a woman, or that he has no children. It's also possible for gay couples to adopt.

    -- Many lesbians also have children, either through relationships with men, artificial insemination or IVF, or adoption.

    -- Most gays and lesbians also go to their "mundane jobs" and work to support themselves.

    -- The assumption that gays and lesbians are all out there carrying on like they're still 18 is stereotyping at its worst.


    it's not though.

    i agree wholeheartedly with everything you said... you proved my point - gay people have a CHOICE and a lot more choices and options to live a decent life the way they want to. they just have to realise that. once that is known to the person, only then can they begin to feel "oh, people who give out about me, or are homophobic towards me are jealous of my choices".

    i see it as a payback to gay people to have this easier run of things in later life (adult life) as they had to endure a lot of crap when they're growing up for being gay. it's a nice reward for those of us who make it out of all of that crap without having killed themselves.

    obviously anybody who thinks that they can spew the absolute drivel that lefty and his ilk are coming out with are the exact type who were the bullies to gay people when they were in school, and are fuming now that the world has changed and left them behind and they are stuck in their sh!tty mundane boring lives feeling bitter about it.

    Lefty, you are full of sh!t, and no doubt are gay as christmas, and very confused. i feel sorry for you.


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    #307
    Annasopra
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    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    It's not homophobic to despise attention-seeking behaviour.

    It's not homophobic to say that we as a society have become 'pussified'. If you had enquired, you would discover that I amongst others use that term on these boards in very broad contexts that have ZERO to do with the issue of homophobia. But you didn't ask.

    It is juvenile to suggest that a person is homophobic because they despise the cringy, shrill, loud, boring, fakeness of so many gays in the public eye.

    The problem with you, and your ilk, is that you paranoically think any criticism of any gay person is an attack on the totality of the gay community.

    At the very least, you make that accusation reflexively, over and over again.

    Tactically, in other words.

    You can deny it all you want. Your posts are literally laden with homophobia and mysogyny.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #308
    Annasopra
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    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    This post doesn't even attempt to debate what the user said. Just another bs whataboutry post looking for thanks with a highly educated pic attached.

    What is there to debate? Would you seriously have a debate with drivel and nonsense about all gay men being shrill attention seekers and the pussification of Ireland?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #309
    tayto lover
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    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    It's not homophobic to despise attention-seeking behaviour.

    It's not homophobic to say that we as a society have become 'pussified'. If you had enquired, you would discover that I amongst others use that term on these boards in very broad contexts that have ZERO to do with the issue of homophobia. But you didn't ask.

    It is juvenile to suggest that a person is homophobic because they despise the cringy, shrill, loud, boring, fakeness of so many gays in the public eye.

    The problem with you, and your ilk, is that you paranoically think any criticism of any gay person is an attack on the totality of the gay community.

    At the very least, you make that accusation reflexively, over and over again.

    Tactically, in other words.

    You’ll soon be told that even to think that is homophobic.
    That is always the fall back position when you question anything or point out things that go against their grain.
    Wait and see.


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    #310
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Terrell Nutritious Lubricant wrote: »
    Where to start with this?

    -- The fact that a man identifies as gay doesn't mean he has never had sex with a woman, or that he has no children. It's also possible for gay couples to adopt.

    -- Many lesbians also have children, either through relationships with men, artificial insemination or IVF, or adoption.

    -- Most gays and lesbians also go to their "mundane jobs" and work to support themselves.

    -- The assumption that gays and lesbians are all out there carrying on like they're still 18 is stereotyping at its worst.

    Pink Pound i.e disposable income due to lack of comparative family commitments. It's still a thing.

    For what it's worth none of my gay friends or acquaintances have kids. That is likely to change but not at any great speed.

    And I can stay standing longer on a night out than I used to in my 20's. I just learned to pace myself after decades of practice. Not that I'm bragging. Gay people certainly do in my experience have much more active social lives than their heterosexual counterparts on the whole - and it's not a stereotype accusation that I would take as an insult even if it were meant as such.


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    #311
    jochenstacker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 390 ✭✭jochenstacker


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    This post doesn't even attempt to debate what the user said. Just another bs whataboutry post looking for thanks with a highly educated pic attached.

    OK, let's deal with the point in the post I was replying to.
    who do those fags think they are strutting around like the own the place

    To which my reply is Fcuk off.
    No more needs to be said.


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    #312
    sbsquarepants
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    dont bother wrote: »
    i agree wholeheartedly with everything you said... you proved my point - gay people have a CHOICE and a lot more choices and options to live a decent life the way they want to. they just have to realise that. once that is known to the person, only then can they begin to feel "oh, people who give out about me, or are homophobic towards me are jealous of my choices".

    i see it as a payback to gay people to have this easier run of things in later life (adult life) as they had to endure a lot of crap when they're growing up for being gay. it's a nice reward for those of us who make it out of all of that crap without having killed themselves.
    .

    I personally think you're coming at it from the wrong direction entirely. If anything, gay people have more limited choices than straight people do, even still.

    I'm straight, I have kids, but they weren't compulsory ( in fact you wouldn't believe what i had to do to make them, let's just say I don't think you'd like it;)) I know plenty of long term straight couples who have opted out of having kids to focus more on themselves.

    At the end of the day, it's a lot easier for a straight couple to not have kids and go partying every night, than it is for a gay couple to get their jazz hands on a half a dozen ankle biters!


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    #313
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    I personally think you're coming at it from the wrong direction entirely. If anything, gay people have more limited choices than straight people do, even still.

    I'm straight, I have kids, but they weren't compulsory ( in fact you wouldn't believe what i had to do to make them, let's just say I don't think you'd like it;)) I know plenty of long term straight couples who have opted out of having kids to focus more on themselves.

    At the end of the day, it's a lot easier for a straight couple to not have kids and go partying every night, than it is for a gay couple to get their jazz hands on a half a dozen ankle biters!


    well it doesnt matter what you think to be honest. you're not gay, then you dont have a say in this issue. it's as simple as that.

    what gives you people the notion that you can comment on the lifestyles of other people, be they foreign, lgbt, religious etc? what is the idea behind your stance on this issue?

    you have no reason to be saying the things you are saying, there's no argument to be had. some people are gay and some arent.

    the media lately, yes, has been showing a lot more lgbt couples on television, movies, music etc.

    why that becomes an issue for people is beyond me. it's not some "agenda" - it's simply that most of the normal people in the world have come to the realisation that it's perfectly OK to not give a sh!t about how others live their lives.

    why does it prevail then that the most thick, backwards thinking morons try and justify their disgusting homophobic attitudes?

    ps: where are you going that you seem to see a LOT of gay action going on.
    are you sure you're not heading to gay venues ? i go to gay bars quite often and even in there you'd be hard pressed to see people doing anything beyond a shift...


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    #314
    One eyed Jack
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    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    I personally think you're coming at it from the wrong direction entirely.


    Not their first time hearing that either I’d say :D


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    dont bother
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Not their first time hearing that either I’d say :D

    pathetic, unfunny drivel.


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    Does there HAVE TO be Marxism involved with the auld lesbianism or is a more a la carte kind of set up?

    Where do the poor wee lesbians fit into this at all? Are they undermining the whole appeal of the gay lifestyle by all getting stuck with some....UGH...woman?


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    #317
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    jochenstacker wrote: »
    And you know what you're going to do about it?
    You're going to post aggressive sh*t about it on an internet forum, safe behind your keyboard.
    And you know what else you'll do?
    Nothing, the LGBTQ community has a right to exist and they can be as butch or camp about it as they like.
    If it offends the good sir, may I suggest the following course of action.

    IMF]

    The trademark vulgarity of your ilk.


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    #318
    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Dominik Echoing Flute wrote: »
    Does there HAVE TO be Marxism involved with the auld lesbianism or is a more a la carte kind of set up?

    Where do the poor wee lesbians fit into this at all? Are they undermining the whole appeal of the gay lifestyle by all getting stuck with some....UGH...woman?

    what are you on about?
    sure you're on this thread liking posts by outright homophobes!

    nobody said anything about the lesbians.... they're part of the lgbt "movement" that this whole thread is about.

    however, they were mentioned already - it was said that two women kissing is nice, and two men kissing is disgusting.

    do you have anything constructive to add?? or just want in on the thread without having anything to actually say on the matter...?


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    #319
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,125 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Dominik Echoing Flute wrote: »
    Does there HAVE TO be Marxism involved with the auld lesbianism or is a more a la carte kind of set up?

    Where do the poor wee lesbians fit into this at all? Are they undermining the whole appeal of the gay lifestyle by all getting stuck with some....UGH...woman?
    They are all at home putting up shelves and getting cats?

    BTW I am a gay man myself...getting married this year...my lifestyle mostly involves being dragged around Ikea against my will at weekends and trying avoid doing household task like putting up shelves...so I would say pretty much the same as a straight man.


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    dont bother
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    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    The trademark vulgarity of your ilk.


    Polish people are disgusting.





    see? do you like it? no you dont. now kindly fvck off and take your disgraceful, shameful pitiful "opinions" with you, you absolute clown.


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    dont bother
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    gmisk wrote: »
    They are all at home putting up shelves?

    BTW I am a gay man myself...getting married this year...my lifestyle mostly involves being dragged around Ikea against my will at weekends and trying avoid doing household task like putting up shelves...so I would say pretty much the same as a straight man.

    exactly this.

    why do homophobes like lefty and his "ilk" bother with even thinking about this kind of thing?

    why is it that these cretins can't see that people are just that - people.


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    dont bother wrote: »
    what are you on about?
    sure you're on this thread liking posts by outright homophobes!

    nobody said anything about the lesbians.... they're part of the lgbt "movement" that this whole thread is about.

    however, they were mentioned already - it was said that two women kissing is nice, and two men kissing is disgusting.

    do you have anything constructive to add?? or just want in on the thread without having anything to actually say on the matter...?

    Wha?

    All I can gather from that gibberish is you need to simmer down a bit.

    "Nobody said anything about the lesbians. This is what was said about the lesbians! Why don't you add something constructive to the thread???"

    :rolleyes:


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    #323
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    gmisk wrote: »
    They are all at home putting up shelves and getting cats?

    BTW I am a gay man myself...getting married this year...my lifestyle mostly involves being dragged around Ikea against my will at weekends and trying avoid doing household task like putting up shelves...so I would say pretty much the same as a straight man.

    I'm a woman in a straight relationship and I spent my weekend playing video games and drinking! Busting stereotypes all over the place.


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    #324
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    What is there to debate? Would you seriously have a debate with drivel and nonsense about all gay men being shrill attention seekers and the pussification of Ireland?

    I never said anything whatsoever about '... ALL gay men being shrill attention seekers'.

    None of you seem capable of being truthful about what people who disagree with you have actually said.

    How such a loud, cosseted and pandered-to minority can have such a persecution complex... it's remarkable.


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    dont bother
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    Dominik Echoing Flute wrote: »
    Wha?

    All I can gather from that gibberish is you need to simmer down a bit.

    "Nobody said anything about the lesbians. This is what was said about the lesbians! Why don't you add something constructive to the thread???"

    :rolleyes:

    rrrrright....
    i may need to simmer down a little bit, but this post you made is PURE jibberish.

    are you a lesb!an?


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    #326
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,125 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Dominik Echoing Flute wrote: »
    I'm a woman in a straight relationship and I spent my weekend playing video games and drinking! Busting stereotypes all over the place.
    Its almost like we are just people trying to live our lives.


    Your just living yours better than me.
    :D

    IKEA the same day as the all Ireland = 9 circles of hell


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    dont bother
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Dominik Echoing Flute wrote: »
    I'm a woman in a straight relationship and I spent my weekend playing video games and drinking! Busting stereotypes all over the place.


    the only stereotypes i can see on this thread are that of the few mong0 bigots

    i'll lay down the stereotype of them shall i?

    greasy, single, bitter, jealous fools who go around thinking of men having sex all day by the looks of it.

    why do you think about men having sex all day Lefty?


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Its almost like we are just people trying to live our lives.


    Your just living yours better than me.
    :D

    IKEA the same day as the all Ireland = 9 circles of hell

    I'll swap you some weekend it's actually been ages since I've been to IKEA I'd love a go!


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    #329
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,125 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    I never said anything whatsoever about '... ALL gay men being shrill attention seekers'.

    None of you seem capable of being truthful about what people who disagree with you have actually said.

    How such a loud, cosseted and pandered-to minority can have such a persecution complex... it's remarkable.
    There are some shrill attention seeking people in this world some of them are gay...yup.

    I wouldnt say its a persecution complex but there is a history of Irish people being treated poorly and lacking protection in the past especially.
    You dont have to look to ancient history in Ireland for examples.
    The Declan Flynn case is a good example.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Flynn
    Remember tt was illegal to be gay in ireland until 1993, marriage equality is also a fairly recent thing and still isnt in northern ireland.
    Its not as if homophobic attacks have stopped happening as well.


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    #330
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,125 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Dominik Echoing Flute wrote: »
    I'll swap you some weekend it's actually been ages since I've been to IKEA I'd love a go!
    Your more than welcome to swap with me anytime!


    I actually like putting together the furniture though, its just the madness of the shop!


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    Yeah for the people who think gay people a) engage in sort of attention-seeking agenda-driven PDAs that are way over the top compared to straight people and b) nobody cares or would give you hassle for going about your innocuous gay way then

    a) spend tomorrow noticing, just really noticing the straight couples around you. It's just visual white noise for most of us but honestly, make a mental note of every couple you see holding hands, hanging off each other, kissing, snogging, sitting on each other's laps. Is what you see from gay people really out of line with it or do you just notice it more?

    b) especially for the men, take another man's hand or put your arm around him, just a totally innocuous thing like you'd do with a woman. And just walk around town for a couple of hours. See what stares and glares and sniggering and heckling you get.


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