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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,784 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Jesus 30 people. F'ed up


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Spare the thoughts and prayers. This is an out of control epidemic with innocent lives lost by the dozen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,391 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Here we go again.


    If only every US citizen exercised their God-given right to be tooled up, none of this would be happening.


    Or something.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,806 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    This is mental.

    Why are there not tens of millions of Americans marching against their ridiculous gun laws?

    Part of me thinks that the horse has bolted to such an extent (or there's that many guns out there already) that changing the gun laws now wouldn't make a not of difference.

    Anyway hopefully casualties are at a minimum, particularly amongst kids. All loss of life is tragic, but when government inaction leads to the needless deaths of kids then you have to wonder what the actual f*** is going on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭rom


    https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/odessa-texas-shooting/

    They are saying there are two shooters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    delminteop wrote: »
    Multiple gunshot victims. Some people on Twitter saying this will overtake the Vegas shooting as the worst in US history!

    Jaysus wept!

    Hopefully most of those 30 are just injured.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

    But it's the ease at which mentally ill persons are legally obtain firearms is the issue


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭rom


    One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

    You need a license to get a truck at least as pass some sort of test.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    But it's the ease at which mentally ill persons are legally obtain firearms is the issue

    Agreed. The checks only go so far. How can you tell if someone buying a gun is mentally unstable or not?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    One dead, nine wounded in French knife attack. Not so long ago there was trucks and vans mowing people down in the dozens. It’s not guns, it’s crazy nuts, if they can’t shoot people they’ll always find another way.

    Guns are designed to kill as many people in a short time.

    After the truck attacks they put up barriers to stop them. After gun attacks all you get is thoughts and prayers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    rom wrote: »
    You need a license to get a truck at least as pass some sort of test.

    Do you think ISIS have the correct license for a van or a truck before they kill 30 people?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    rom wrote: »
    https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/odessa-texas-shooting/

    They are saying there are two shooters.

    Yeah we know because it's in the opening post.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Agreed. The checks only go so far. How can you tell if someone buying a gun is mentally unstable or not?

    Medical checks as part of the current checks for a start


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Guns are designed to kill as many people in a short time.

    After the truck attacks they put up barriers to stop them. After gun attacks all you get is thoughts and prayers.

    Concrete barriers are akin to everyone wearing bullet proof vests. It doesn’t solve a problem. Guaranteed this is from a high powered semi automatic rifle. Nobody needs those. Gun laws need reform for sure. My point still stands though. If you get someone crazy enough they’ll kill just as many with a car as with a gun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    McDermotX wrote: »
    Here we go again.


    If only every US citizen exercised their God-given right to be tooled up, none of this would be happening.


    Or something.

    If everyone would walk around in ned Kelly type outfits there would be a lot less fatalities. Would be hot in the helmets but a small price to pay


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    If the very first, early reports say 30... holy fúck what will the final toll be.

    America is broken.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭rom


    Do you think ISIS have the correct license for a van or a truck before they kill 30 people?

    Yes :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Medical checks as part of the current checks for a start

    Medical checks will show up nothing I’m afraid. A lot of these shooters are young white males with no criminal/mental history. You’d learn more about them from their browser history than them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Barely a day goes by where someone isn't shot in the US
    Pretty much inured to it at this point and so it seems are the people to prevent it
    Be all forgotten about in a few days til the next one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Medical checks will show up nothing I’m afraid. A lot of these shooters are young white males with no criminal/mental history. You’d learn more about them from their browser history than them.

    Haven't a few been on medication for mental illness...thus diagnosed


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    As long as you can get a military grade automatic weapon as easy as a toaster these tragedies will continue to happen. The American obsession with the gun is truly tragic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Concrete barriers are akin to everyone wearing bullet proof vests. It doesn’t solve a problem. Guaranteed this is from a high powered semi automatic rifle. Nobody needs those. Gun laws need reform for sure. My point still stands though. If you get someone crazy enough they’ll kill just as many with a car as with a gun.

    Glad we agree, make it much harder for these nutjobs to buy guns.

    Then if they use vehicles start introducing technology/legislation to stop that and so on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It has been confirmed that the active shooter was shot and killed at the Cinergy in Odessa.

    There is no active shooter at this time. All agencies are investigating reports of possible suspects,” says the Midland Texas police department.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Glad we agree, make it much harder for these nutjobs to buy guns.

    Then if they use vehicles start introducing technology/legislation to stop that and so on.

    Just to be clear I am 100% pro gun. But absolutely not high powered rifles. Ideally the second amendment should be limited to handguns and hunting rifles. I believe in the right to defend yourself.

    Will never happen in the US.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    whats the best news channel for this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,162 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Only 1 person dead. Mass shooting fail.
    Good to see the shooter got took out, he lived a failure, and died one too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    delminteop wrote: »
    BBC, they are unbiased unlike CNN.

    Unbiased my hole. Ever read bbc.co.uk? It’s like reading the VICE website.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,826 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    A fire where a few cars burned in Cork is RTE's main story, not a single mention of 30 people being shot dead in USA, you have to love the massively overmanned organisation with zero weekend cover.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Unbiased my hole. Ever read bbc.co.uk? It’s like reading the VICE website.

    Agreed...BBC has shown it's true colours with its "coverage" of Brexit


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