January 2020 Recruitment.

MrChew

Columbo1234 wrote: »

Vetting forms arrived this morning. Not bad. Hopefully get them sent away ASAP.
How soon after arrival of vetting forms did the first fast track group get their PCA date through and will it come
by email or post?

I got my PCA invite by email a few days after my vetting forms arrived.

RoboCop123

I also received my vetting forms this morning, not too bad. Still very thorough lol - I'm estimating PCA in early December, going by the rough dates for the first group of FT, then we really only have medicals to do.

Paulo345

During the vetting do they access your social media to look at your messages and your call records? Just wondering as it would seem like an invasion of privacy

Yukuza2008

So part of the vetting they can access your messages and phone call log etc? Can anybody confirm? Not that I am worrying just wondering that’s all.

MrChew

Yukuza2008 wrote: »

So part of the vetting they can access your messages and phone call log etc? Can anybody confirm? Not that I am worrying just wondering that’s all.

You aren't asked to supply information that could allow them to access your messages, call logs etc, simply your usernames and identifiers that would allow them to look up your social media profiles.

I'm not saying that they couldn't access your accounts - who knows what tricks GCHQ have up their sleeves - but you aren't asked to prov9de passwords or the like.

Additionally, if you want to be a police officer, surrendering elements of your private life come with the job in a way they wouldn't in civvy street.

Yukuza2008

MrChew wrote: »

You aren't asked to supply information that could allow them to access your messages, call logs etc, simply your usernames and identifiers that would allow them to look up your social media profiles.

I'm not saying that they couldn't access your accounts - who knows what tricks GCHQ have up their sleeves - but you aren't asked to prov9de passwords or the like.

Additionally, if you want to be a police officer, surrendering elements of your private life come with the job in a way they wouldn't in civvy street.

Yeah that is very true. Transparency being the key thing to them. Not that I’ve anything to hide but just to know. Thanks for the reply.

Paulo345

I don’t think they would access your phone records and texts without letting you know they would beforehand?

MrChew

Paulo345 wrote: »

I don’t think they would access your phone records and texts without letting you know they would beforehand?

They're looking at your social media posts to make sure you're suitably grey and not agitating to bring down the government or put an end to democracy. They aren't listening to your calls or checking your messages, not at this level of clearance.

Newbieee

Your social media will be checked inside out.

Just a heads up, don’t try to hide it cause they will find it and you will fail. They can see all your emails you’ve used throughout the years

Paulo345

Newbieee wrote: »

Your social media will be checked inside out.

Just a heads up, don’t try to hide it cause they will find it and you will fail. They can see all your emails you’ve used throughout the years

I used to post on the bodybuilding.com forum about 10 years ago, i havent put the likes of that down as social media as theres no way i can remember the names of every account on every website ive used

Paulo345

Also doesnt this forum count as social media? has anyone put this down on their vetting?

Wyl91

Paulo345 wrote: »

Also doesnt this forum count as social media? has anyone put this down on their vetting?

Personally I did but I agree it’s hard to remember everything

RoboCop123

Did everyone declare forums/boards and online alias accounts on the vetting form? I personally can't remember every account I've created. I assumed the only information needed was social media accounts and personal email account?

Newbieee

When I applied I put down this forum.

Declare everything

Belfast86

They only ask for your social media and email addresses.

If you were to declare all online forums you could have a shopping list and half forgotten about Sites!

I would say it’s similar to what mr chew said. They look at your social media accounts to see your not plotting to take the government down.

Unless of course you are in the service and applying for higher security position this is where they ask you in depth questions regarding your internet usage. Etc

Right now it’s the norm CTC, access Ni and social media content.

Newbieee

Fair enough, I however definitely declared this forum.

Andimaul

I deactivated all my social media over two years ago therefore I assumed the only things I had to declare was my YouTube account and this forum.

I've done nothing but think about the vetting forms since I sent them off haha.

Boss20

Need some help! Anyone who has done their vetting forms...did you write N/A in every field that didn’t apply to you? Or did you leave them blank? In the guidance is says not to leave anything blank....but then in some cases it also says “fill out the fields that apply to you” or for example if you answered no to a question it tells you to skip to the next question...do I leave the rest blank or do I have to write N/A 😬

mariyapsni

Boss20 wrote: »

Need some help! Anyone who has done their vetting forms...did you write N/A in every field that didn’t apply to you? Or did you leave them blank? In the guidance is says not to leave anything blank....but then in some cases it also says “fill out the fields that apply to you” or for example if you answered no to a question it tells you to skip to the next question...do I leave the rest blank or do I have to write N/A ��

Boss20, I would write N/A in the spaces that are just not applicable for you. From experience, it's always better to show that you have read the question and u think it's not applicable to you, rather than them assuming that you might have just skipped it by mistake OR it not being applicable to you. Good luck

Boss20

mariyapsni wrote: »

Boss20, I would write N/A in the spaces that are just not applicable for you. From experience, it's always better to show that you have read the question and u think it's not applicable to you, rather than them assuming that you might have just skipped it by mistake OR it not being applicable to you. Good luck

Thank you for your advice! Really appreciate it! Can’t wait to get it finished and sent away!

MrChew

mariyapsni wrote: »

Boss20, I would write N/A in the spaces that are just not applicable for you. From experience, it's always better to show that you have read the question and u think it's not applicable to you, rather than them assuming that you might have just skipped it by mistake OR it not being applicable to you. Good luck

This is good advice - it is what I did on my forms. You'll have a sore hand by the end of it, but you'll also have the peace of mind that you haven't accidentally left anything out.

Klaus2020

Now I'm doubting how I filled the form in and if i missed sections, christ! Why is this psychological torture....

Andimaul

Klaus2020 wrote: »

Now I'm doubting how I filled the form in and if i missed sections, christ! Why is this psychological torture....

Mate I'm the same, I'm wondering whether I wrote N/A or just left them blank. It's nerve wrecking.

Klaus2020

Andimaul wrote: »

Mate I'm the same, I'm wondering whether I wrote N/A or just left them blank. It's nerve wrecking.

I mean I filled out each section it told me to, but if I answered a question then I didn't think I would need N/A for other bits. It's a bit like dissecting an exam after GCSE ahaha.

mariyapsni

Hey, don't worry guys. I've had a CTC vetting a few times now and if they need something, they will get back to you (usually through the requesting organisation) to let you know what further information they need. In my case, i had missed giving job details for jobs i had around 8 to 10 years ago and they just got back to the requesting organisation (my employer) who then got back to me, requesting this info and then provided it back to them. Just keep calm and things will start happening soon i keep telling that to myself as well, waiting on the A/C results

MUFC1

Do not panic on the vetting, they will come back to you if they require more info, and if some of you are like me its a long process, I have been security cleared twice to work within prison settings across NI and my vetting has been away 11 months coming. so my advice is chill lol

Paulo345

MUFC1 wrote: »

Do not panic on the vetting, they will come back to you if they require more info, and if some of you are like me its a long process, I have been security cleared twice to work within prison settings across NI and my vetting has been away 11 months coming. so my advice is chill lol

I think it’s mostly people worrying about appearing dishonest when in reality they have made a mistake or forgotten to put down a YouTube account not used in 5 years or something lol

Gonzo94

MUFC1 wrote: »

Do not panic on the vetting, they will come back to you if they require more info, and if some of you are like me its a long process, I have been security cleared twice to work within prison settings across NI and my vetting has been away 11 months coming. so my advice is chill lol

I can't believe yours is still pending. I honestly thought you wouldn't be too far behind me. I would give them a call. That's what I did and literally a few days later I got called for an interview.

CMAG90

Those who received their vetting forms - can you advise if there is a set date to have it returned by or how long you have to complete and return.

Thanks

Columbo1234

CMAG90 wrote: »

Those who received their vetting forms - can you advise if there is a set date to have it returned by or how long you have to complete and return.

Thanks

Yes needs to be returned within 2 weeks. Been filling mine in all day. 16 addresses between my partner and I 🀓

CMAG90

Columbo1234 wrote: »

Yes needs to be returned within 2 weeks. Been filling mine in all day. 16 addresses between my partner and I ��

Sending you a PM if thats ok

Wyl91

Vetting has just requested additional financial info from me.

The form states summary of personal summary of finance

Would you assume it’s me alone and not my over spending partner lol

MrChew

Wyl91 wrote: »

Vetting has just requested additional financial info from me.

The form states summary of personal summary of finance

Would you assume it’s me alone and not my over spending partner lol

I'd assume you alone, surely.

Wyl91

MrChew wrote: »

I'd assume you alone, surely.

Balls they’ve said include her. Nice knowing yeee

MrChew

Wyl91 wrote: »

Balls they’ve said include her. Nice knowing yeee

Sure you could dump her :P

Wyl91

MrChew wrote: »

Sure you could dump her :P

Bit late now! Just gonna lay it all out as best to my knowledge. New thing to worry about everyday

MrChew

Wyl91 wrote: »

Bit late now! Just gonna lay it all out as best to my knowledge. New thing to worry about everyday

Oh for sure, unending uncertainty.

Columbo1234

What kind of info are they asking for on the additional financial forms? I have a couple of defaults so I think I will get one too.

Wyl91

Columbo1234 wrote: »

What kind of info are they asking for on the additional financial forms? I have a couple of defaults so I think I will get one too.

Totally assets/liabilities

Then a monthly breakdown of in and outgoings in terms of all bills/debts etc

Columbo1234

Wyl91 wrote: »

Totally assets/liabilities

Then a monthly breakdown of in and outgoings in terms of all bills/debts etc

Cheers mate. Thanks for info. Much appreciated.

Paulo345

Anyone know how long to wait for vetting before contacting recruitment? Been a month for me and still nothing back from them

Wyl91

Paulo345 wrote: »

Anyone know how long to wait for vetting before contacting recruitment? Been a month for me and still nothing back from them

Hey I’m afraid many people can take months on months. Have even heard of people waiting 11 months.

If they need anything they will contact you! Plus if you email they will prob just say it’s pending. Fingers crossed we haven’t much longer to wait but you never know

Andimaul

Does anyone know how long it is between each group starting GV?

Gonzo94

I think it's usually around 5 weeks between each set of calls. So the next set of calls for the 2018 campaign should go out on or around the 16th November (I hope).

Wyl91

PCA is v v soon. Safe to say I’m up to high doe lol how doable do we feel the 4.30mins is?

I’ve been training but I was only fit to train from Julyish as I birthed a human in May so yeh.. feeling a little disadvantaged by this.

Newbieee

Paulo345 wrote: »

Anyone know how long to wait for vetting before contacting recruitment? Been a month for me and still nothing back from them

I would contact them if it goes over 20 weeks although it could go to 30 weeks plus

Gonzo94

Don't worry about the PCA. At 4mins 30 secs you should be able to walk round it (don't do that though lol).

I was in the same boat when it came to my PCA. I done mine in 3 mins 28 I believe. My training wasnt mental. I was jogging/running and adding in things like assault bike and rower. Circuit type exercises will help too. Just give it you're all and you'll be grand.

Good luck

Newbieee

Anyone could pass the PCA in 4.30. The last intake was 3.53 and the majority passed

MrChew

Wyl91 wrote: »

PCA is v v soon. Safe to say I’m up to high doe lol how doable do we feel the 4.30mins is?

I’ve been training but I was only fit to train from Julyish as I birthed a human in May so yeh.. feeling a little disadvantaged by this.

Mine is up soon too and I swing between feeling "really very optimistic, sure 4:30 is ages, and thon lady in the bel tel did it in 4:18 and I must be quicker than her surely" and "I'm going to die, I'm going to knock down every obstacle, including the gym mat, and they're going to take me out the back and shoot me like the knackered old nag I am".

I've been training since March, but I've literally never done like any exercise before in my life. I've managed to get my 5k down to 4:30 mins per kilometre or so, plus I can manage 30 mins of HIIT without completely dying, but I still am worried that it's not going to be enough.

Went for my last run today - resting before the big event so my muscles are fresh but it's in the hands of the gods now.

sharon1986

MrChew wrote: »

Mine is up soon too and I swing between feeling "really very optimistic, sure 4:30 is ages, and thon lady in the bel tel did it in 4:18 and I must be quicker than her surely" and "I'm going to die, I'm going to knock down every obstacle, including the gym mat, and they're going to take me out the back and shoot me like the knackered old nag I am".

I've been training since March, but I've literally never done like any exercise before in my life. I've managed to get my 5k down to 4:30 mins per kilometre or so, plus I can manage 30 mins of HIIT without completely dying, but I still am worried that it's not going to be enough.

Went for my last run today - resting before the big event so my muscles are fresh but it's in the hands of the gods now.

In the same boat too ....really doubting myself!! Anyone thats done it is like dont under estimate then others when u say 4.30 are like oh that will be a doddle! Has anyone failed the 4.30 that anyone knows of??