January 2020 Recruitment.

LC20

Medical passed so all is done - just to wait on the SMT results. Anyone from FT1 still waiting on vetting?

North Coast John

I think I am part of FT1 and I got my vetting cleared late November. Got my SMT result a few weeks ago as well.

North Coast John

Also congratulations.

LC20

North Coast John wrote: »

Also congratulations.

Thanks 😊!!
I’m just waiting on vetting - I have emailed them and it said it’s still pending. I know there are still a few waiting for the vetting from FT1 but I would love for it to come through soon then all is done and I can relax.

SausageDog33

Yea im also appointable now!

North Coast John

Any guesses on how many of us are currently appoitnable?

MrChew

North Coast John wrote: »

Any guesses on how many of us are currently appoitnable?

There's no way of making an educated guess given there are so many factors in play. You'd need an FOI to answer that.

Paulo345

At my medical I was asked for every prescription I have taken in the last 3 months, worried now about the cocodamol I was prescribed in September (6months ago) will it show in my hair and I will look like I’m hiding something?

5031

In theory a 3cm sample of hair will mean roughly a 3 month drug test as hair grows approximately 1cm p/m.


How many fast track groups have there been now?

North Coast John

I wouldn't worry about your SMT mate. Its only cocodamol. Maybe send them an email if you're really worried.

I heard there were 3 fast track groups? Not too sure tho.

RoboCop123

I'm pretty sure it's 3 fast track groups yeah, has everyone from FT 1 attended their medical? I'm just wondering how soon we'll receive our medical date

CLC93

LC20 wrote: »

Medical passed so all is done - just to wait on the SMT results. Anyone from FT1 still waiting on vetting?

Great stuff! Another thing ticked off! FT1 here too and still waiting on vetting to clear as well before becoming appointable, it’s been away for just over 24 weeks now so fingers crossed won’t be much longer!

Paulo345

How long after the medical do you have to wait for your SMT results?

North Coast John

Took about a week for me

JC12250

Anyone else doubt we will hear much about funding tomorrow during the PB meeting with everything going on over the past 24hrs?

MrChew

JC12250 wrote: »

Anyone else doubt we will hear much about funding tomorrow during the PB meeting with everything going on over the past 24hrs?

There will be a written report made available at some point on the PB website tomorrow that will likely have some detail on funding, and the CC usually makes an uninterrupted opening statement but I'd imagine most of the Q&A will be concerned with current events.

I'm not sure he'll have much to report on funding in any case, though, it's all gone quite quiet.

MrChew

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56594740

According to this the final budget is being held up - not sure what implications that has on additional bids the DoJ has submitted.

JC12250

It’s going to be a bumpy few days by the looks of it. I’d say if we didn’t have COVID the assembly would be on the verge of collapse which would leave funding up to Civil Servants.

Who knows what having no finalised budget could mean over the next few months, might work in our favour if Civil Servants realise cash as departments request it.

JC12250

MrChew wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56594740

According to this the final budget is being held up - not sure what implications that has on additional bids the DoJ has submitted.

Just reading that again and it mentions police numbers not being increased...I wonder if that means the budget is allowing for the extra officers that we originally thought were going to be cut??

MrChew

JC12250 wrote: »

Just reading that again and it mentions police numbers not being increased...I wonder if that means the budget is allowing for the extra officers that we originally thought were going to be cut??

Who knows. The article does say the final budget is the same as the draft budget with only minor changes, so it might just have been a bit of political rhetoric on the part of Mr Aiken. It might become a bit clearer following the PB meeting tomorrow. Conversely, it might not lol.

MrChew

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/sf-and-dup-criticised-over-lack-of-budget-agreement-40262979.html

This story makes it sound as if a big part of the refusal to proceed with the final budget is due to the commitments regarding policing numbers not being met.

It's difficult to read this clearly though. Either this is good from our perspective as it makes it more likely the Dept of Finance will find money in order to get the budget over the line, or the Executive parties are washing their hands of the whole thing in the event that the Executive collapses.

The next few days/weeks will be interesting!!

MrChew

£12.3 million quietly announced to increase police numbers in final budget.

Bullet points at bottom.

https://www.finance-ni.gov.uk/news/murphy-announces-budget-rebuild-economy-and-support-children-and-young-people

walkman2302

MrChew wrote: »

£12.3 million quietly announced to increase police numbers in final budget.

Bullet points at bottom.

https://www.finance-ni.gov.uk/news/murphy-announces-budget-rebuild-economy-and-support-children-and-young-people

Great news!

JC12250

GET IN THERE. Just heard Pamela talking to the policing board to say it seems we have the funding for recruitment! Very positive news.

CLC93

Nice positive finish to the PB meeting re recruitment from Pamela. Good to hear, might put a few minds at rest.

North Coast John

MrChew wrote: »

£12.3 million quietly announced to increase police numbers in final budget.

Bullet points at bottom.

https://www.finance-ni.gov.uk/news/murphy-announces-budget-rebuild-economy-and-support-children-and-young-people

Excellent news thanks for sharing Mr Chew. Do you think this means 600 will be recruited as initially planned?

walkman2302

I believe they will still recruit 600, reference was made about making savings in other areas to gain the other money required at the PB meeting.

MrChew

North Coast John wrote: »

Excellent news thanks for sharing Mr Chew. Do you think this means 600 will be recruited as initially planned?

It seems like that is sufficient funding, yeah.

North Coast John

Great. Let's hope things get moving again and we hear some news soon.

The Rookie

Chief Con was on tv said there was more funding for new officers next year so good news for any of you guys wanting to join.

JC12250

Imagine he came out and said April Fools lol. My mind is finally at ease knowing this recruitment will go on.

North Coast John

Will this speed things up?

MrChew

JC12250 wrote: »

Imagine he came out and said April Fools lol. My mind is finally at ease knowing this recruitment will go on.

Not just that but they've also announced a high street vouchers scheme, so we'll be able to get money off new underpants for GV.

MrChew

North Coast John wrote: »

Will this speed things up?

It will allow them to do full intakes instead of reduced ones, so they should get through the ML faster. Not sure if it will make the first 2020 candidates start any sooner- I'm still not 100% on if they are going to wait until the ML is out before appointing anyone.

The Rookie

MrChew wrote: »

Not just that but they've also announced a high street vouchers scheme, so we'll be able to get money off new underpants for GV.

Be able to buy all your gear for PE then lol

North Coast John

I wonder how much notice they give before your start date for GV? My current employers have been decent to me and I'd like to give them as much notice as possible.

The Rookie

North Coast John wrote: »

I wonder how much notice they give before your start date for GV? My current employers have been decent to me and I'd like to give them as much notice as possible.

Dont worry you get plenty of notice ðŸ‘ðŸ‘

North Coast John

It would be great if they went ahead before the ML was published- this recruitment drive has felt like an eternity lol. I can't wait to get going and start training.

The Rookie

North Coast John wrote: »

It would be great if they went ahead before the ML was published- this recruitment drive has felt like an eternity lol. I can't wait to get going and start training.

Some of us waited 2 years to get in..hold tight

North Coast John

Belfast_B2014 wrote: »

Some of us waited 2 years to get in..hold tight

Valid point- thanks

Newbieee

Belfast_B2014 wrote: »

Some of us waited 2 years to get in..hold tight

A lot of people wait longer than 2 years..

Great news though!

The Rookie

Newbieee wrote: »

A lot of people wait longer than 2 years..

Great news though!

Im just saying it can take a while so be patient..doesnt matter if its 2 years or more

walkman2302

Could this be a possible indication of numbers?


https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/ps123m-boost-for-psni-only-a-sticking-plaster-3187602

MrChew

walkman2302 wrote: »

Could this be a possible indication of numbers?


https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/ps123m-boost-for-psni-only-a-sticking-plaster-3187602

It's only partially useful as 'securing 300 jobs' refers to controlling attrition through recruitment too. The reduction of 300 was going to be implemented by allowing attrition to exceed recruitment, but the exact numbers are still difficult to work out.

There's still no doubt the extra funds is fantastic news.

walkman2302

Did anyone get the email stating they are continuing with the original figures for recruitment. Excellent news!!

North Coast John

walkman2302 wrote: »

Did anyone get the email stating they are continuing with the original figures for recruitment. Excellent news!!

Yeah great news and the pre-employment stages are going ahead which hopefully includes the last ACs

MrChew

North Coast John wrote: »

Yeah great news and the pre-employment stages are going ahead which hopefully includes the last ACs

I think that is just referring to the PSNI managed stages - the ACs are separate from that. They are likely referring to inviting FT3 to PCA/medical.

ASM1234

Be nice if they could email the non FT applicants to about the recent situations, if it wasn't for this site we would have no idea what's going on

MrChew

ASM1234 wrote: »

Be nice if they could email the non FT applicants to about the recent situations, if it wasn't for this site we would have no idea what's going on

I think the FT/non-FT divide is way more pronounced in this campaign than it has been in previous ones. I'm just somewhat surprised there wasn't a contingency plan to produce some sort of interim merit list but then, with the question remaining over funding, it probably wasn't a pressing issue. It might become more of a concern now, though.

Gda88

The lack of information given to non FT group is abit of a joke. I’m happy for the individuals that have been FT but it seems the rest of us are just left in the dark about it all which is frustrating to say the least.