Ireland v Wales 07/09/2019

Bridge93

Jean Kleyn is a walking penalty

Burkie1203

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Impressed by Henshaw, Van der Flier & Furlong. That's about it.

Stander has been better. 6 is best position.

99problems1

Kleyn is ****e. He's South African. He's playing like a man who's playing because he can, not because he wants to. He'll be up against his home country in the quarters. Would his heart really be in it?

markodaly

Deleted User wrote: »

Impressed by Henshaw, Van der Flier & Furlong. That's about it.

No Kearney? Murray looks good as well.

Rockbeast2

As a Leinster fan,

Bring on Carty

I don't think it's Murray's fault - welcome to be wrong - but Sexy has done nothing in that half...

clsmooth

Much improved performance today. Murray, Henshaw, Aki and Kearney looking very sharp in the backs. Sexton has had some lovely moments although understandably a little rusty. Only concern is the line out. Kleyn hasn’t covered himself in glory either with two poor penalties given away. Best has been very good around the pitch with one turnover and slowing down a good bit of ball.

blackwhite

dodderangler wrote: »

Sexton was deliberately taken out there

Best had a serious go at the ref as they were walking off. Asked him to look at the hit and ref refused

highgiant1985

Deleted User wrote: »

Impressed by Henshaw, Van der Flier & Furlong. That's about it.

no Kearney? He's arguably been our best player in that half.

Stheno

highgiant1985 wrote: »

no Kearney? He's arguably been our best player in that half.

Thought he had a stormer

Clegg

Easily our best performance of this warm up series. Intensity is at test level and at times we've done well to get through the Welsh defence.

We're still prone to playing too much off slow ball though. And the lineout is a definite worry. Kleyn hasn't shown anything at all this series to warrant a spot in the squad.

Diabhal Beag

Kleyn is a huge liability

baas baa

We need to have a couple of set plays when things break down in attack like that, turnover felt inevitable.

highgiant1985

highgiant1985 wrote: »

no Kearney? He's arguably been our best player in that half.

Took the try very well. He definitely merits a mention.

clsmooth

blackwhite wrote: »

Best had a serious go at the ref as they were walking off. Asked him to look at the hit and ref refused

Had a look at it again. Took a heavy hit but seemed fair enough.

99problems1

Daire O Brien wears a scarf no matter what the weather.

WoollyRedHat

Murray has had an excellent first half, JS not so much. Carty needs to get the nod now, it would be stupid to give JS the full 80 here.

Eta: Bring on Henderson

kuang1

99problems1 wrote: »

Kleyn is ****e. He's South African. He's playing like a man who's playing because he can, not because he wants to. He'll be up against his home country in the quarters. Would his heart really be in it?

Ignore list grows a little more.

Mantis Toboggan

Great try saving tackle from henshaw

clsmooth

Clegg wrote: »

Easily our best performance of this warm up series. Intensity is at test level and at times we've done well to get through the Welsh defence.

We're still prone to playing too much off slow ball though. And the lineout is a definite worry. Kleyn hasn't shown anything at all this series to warrant a spot in the squad.

Think only Ryan has won any ball in the line out

Rockbeast2

Keith Earls must feel like Simon Geoghegan!

Neither Aki or Henshaw can swing it out

Movementarian

Why are we never contesting lineouts? We dont even jump at them when they have possession...making it easy...

dodderangler

blackwhite wrote: »

Best had a serious go at the ref as they were walking off. Asked him to look at the hit and ref refused

I seen that. Sexton was always gonna be a target but that was a blatant hit to hurt Sexton.
The French done the same in the last World Cup before we played Argentina.

dublinman1990

Rhys Patchell has got a concussion.

Burkie1203

clsmooth wrote: »

Think only Ryan has won any ball in the line out

Kleyn can't jump
Backrow isn't great at lineout

Wales marking Ryan so lineout is providing crap ball.

joseywhales

tipuric needs to be cleaned out of those rucks, he does a clever little knee lean on every tackled player to push them back on the ground and slows the ball.

I dont think wales have threatened our defense at all, just silly penalties and an intercept has given them field position.

Liking the addition of the occasional offload in midfield, not liking Wales disrupting our lineout.

Naggdefy

99problems1 wrote: »

Daire O Brien wears a scarf no matter what the weather.

18/19C 7th September.. You'd be sweating.

AbusesToilets

Scrum under pressure consistently, bit worrying, Conan has done well cleaning up when it's retreating. Murray looking better than he has in ages. Kearney having a stormer, that cover rip on Biggar was brilliant.

I'm most happy about the support runners. Every break we've made, there's been someone on the shoulder, and they've actually gotten an offload.

castletownman

If only Schmidt had a line-out specialist to call upon

Faugheen

Kearney has been great, but VDF has been everywhere.

His counter-rucking has caused Wales all sorts of problems and he’s put them back a good few times.

He’s made his tackles and has just been a nuisance on both sides of the ball. Phenomenal performance.

Kleyn’s getting the scapegoat treatment. He gave away two penalties. One for offside which can happen. Second one was a joke but he’s defended really well. I still don’t think he should be starting but he’s getting an awful doing here.

Larmour I think is having a low-key good game.

thebaz

Much improved all-over -

but still cant see how Kleyn got picked , Toner would be so much better, and must feal pretty sick watching.

Best under pressure for Scotland game -

Positives - midfield and Kearney and back-row and an overall hunger

Rockbeast2

@Faugheen

Sexton and (I didn't even notice he is playing) Larmour are having bad games IMO

Naggdefy

As a team we're improving incrementally. We all have our issues with individuals. Hopefully we're timing this right.

If you have POM in the back row you've a lineout option. But he's playing poorly and the back row looks better overall today. You rob Peter to pay Paul.

clsmooth

Feel a bit for Kleyn. Given away two poor penalties out of over eagerness which will be used as a stick to beat him. He’s only human and will be well aware of the sh1te spouted by the likes of Luke. No doubt trying to make a big impact and leading to silly errors.

Lil Sally Anne Jnr.

Kleyn has been good apart from coming in from side. Offers little in the lineout but wasn't picked for that

bennyl10

thebaz wrote: »

Much improved all-over -

but still cant see how Kleyn got picked , Toner would be so much better, and must feal pretty sick watching.

Best under pressure for Scotland game -

Positives - midfield and Kearney and back-row and an overall hunger

Kleyn has the most tackles for Ireland on the pitch, 9/0

He’s been solid defensively, but that’s a team effort also.

Kleyn is doing a huge amount of work here

dh1985

Faugheen wrote: »

Kearney has been great, but VDF has been everywhere.

His counter-rucking has caused Wales all sorts of problems and he’s put them back a good few times.

He’s made his tackles and has just been a nuisance on both sides of the ball. Phenomenal performance.

Kleyn’s getting the scapegoat treatment. He gave away two penalties. One for offside which can happen. Second one was a joke but he’s defended really well. I still don’t think he should be starting but he’s getting an awful doing here.

Larmour I think is having a low-key good game.

Yeah kleyn is been vilified for sure. He turned over a ball with a choke tackle, made a few sound tackles and carried a few times also. The maul penalty was stupid though. Don't think he has been outstanding but at least he hasn't been anonymous. The lineout is a worry though. Not just securing our own ball but Wales are guaranteed free lineout ball

Stheno

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Rhys Patchell has got a concussion.

Not again!

lawrencesummers

Cian Healy had a quiet half.

Sexton is rusty, he needs to improve in this half

clsmooth

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

@Faugheen

Sexton and (I didn't even notice he is playing) Larmour are having bad games IMO

Completely disagree respectfully. Think Sexton has had some lovely moments. Needs game time. Larmour has been busy. Had a few nice contributions even though he hasn’t had a huge amount of ball

Lil Sally Anne Jnr.

I enjoy his podcast, but spreading this negative energy about Kleyn is very low two weeks out from a world cup. STFU Luke. I'm a fan of Toner but he was never a great rugby player.

lawrencesummers

clsmooth wrote: »

Completely disagree respectfully. Think Sexton has had some lovely moments. Needs game time. Larmour has been busy. Had a few nice contributions even though he hasn’t had a huge amount of ball

Kicked straight to touch.
Gave away penalty for tackling around the neck
His intercept led to a try.

Not a good half of rugby, hopefully it improves.

thebaz

bennyl10 wrote: »

Kleyn has the most tackles for Ireland on the pitch, 9/0

Kleyn is doing a huge amount of work here

I would dispute that

razorblunt

That bloody loop.

Rockbeast2

Kleyn is fine.

* Justice for Dev - LOL

Kleyn's trying too hard now. He's a good player and I'll support any lad that wears an Irish jersey

stephen_n

kuang1 wrote: »

Ignore list grows a little more.

By the minute in this thread

Bridge93

Lil Sally Anne Jnr. wrote: »

Kleyn has been good apart from coming in from side. Offers little in the lineout but wasn't picked for that

So he’s given two stupid penalties, offers nothing in the lineout, made only 2 carries one of which was turned over and the scrum has been ineffective.

What exactly has been good today?

99problems1

Stander reminds me of O'brien... Was very effective when he started out and could gimp people off but when he was found out and tackled well he doesn't offer much.

Rockbeast2

KILCOYNE - LEGAL!

Bridge93

99problems1 wrote: »

Stander reminds me of O'brien... Was very effective when he started out and could gimp people off but when he was found out and tackled well he doesn't offer much.

This the same SOB who was a lions starter a decade after breaking onto the scene? Took a while to work him out it seems

Clegg

99problems1 wrote: »

Stander reminds me of O'brien... Was very effective when he started out and could gimp people off but when he was found out and tackled well he doesn't offer much.

We talking about Sean O'Brien here? Two times test Lion, former European Player of the Year and at one stage the best backrow in world rugby. That guy?