Sweet Jesus. The first “God” talk with a child.

cj maxx

OP, the child is being taught to do his/her first confession/ communion.
Just repeat what the teacher tells them God is x,y,z.
They'll make their own minds up when they're older.
Let them be kids.

HailSatan

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Also, another misconception - God is not good. God is neutral.

In your opinion

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

HailSatan wrote: »

In your opinion

Well, obviously; but the evidence points at such.

uck51js9zml2yt

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Also, another misconception - God is not good. God is neutral.

Do tell us more!!!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Matilda Hollow Vulgarity wrote: »

Do tell us more!!!

The two sides are good and evil, played out by man in millions of different stories. And, we are told by most world religions, that we shall be judged at the end of these stories. Well, the judge in this case - God - has to be neutral. If he's not, then the case can be made for a corrupt God; and to the best of my knowledge, no religion (at least none of the Christian ones) advocate a corrupt God.

Think the Force in Star Wars: it can be used either way. It doesn't take a side.

HailSatan

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well, obviously; but the evidence points at such.

All of it, or just the bits you pick and choose.

uck51js9zml2yt

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The two sides are good and evil, played out by man in millions of different stories. And, we are told by most world religions, that we shall be judged at the end of these stories. Well, the judge in this case - God - has to be neutral. If he's not, then the case can be made for a corrupt God; and to the best of my knowledge, no religion (at least none of the Christian ones) advocate a corrupt God.

Think the Force in Star Wars: it can be used either way. It doesn't take a side.

And yet the Bible speaks of countless incidents where God intervenes and judges a nation just as he shows mercy on others. That's not neutrality.

I think you need to give up your science fiction (star wars )and get back to reality.(God).

Fourier

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The two sides are good and evil, played out by man in millions of different stories. And, we are told by most world religions, that we shall be judged at the end of these stories. Well, the judge in this case - God - has to be neutral. If he's not, then the case can be made for a corrupt God; and to the best of my knowledge, no religion (at least none of the Christian ones) advocate a corrupt God.

Think the Force in Star Wars: it can be used either way. It doesn't take a side.

By world religions do you mean those with a large following?

In most Monotheistic faiths God is good, essentially identified with good.

LirW

HailSatan wrote: »

In your opinion

Username checks out, now go and deliver the argument of the decade.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Matilda Hollow Vulgarity wrote: »

And yet the Bible speaks of countless incidents where God intervenes and judges a nation just as he shows mercy on others. That's not neutrality.

I think you need to give up your science fiction (star wars )and get back to reality.(God).

Isn't it?

Most sci-fi is bascially someone's depiction of what God/religion is.

Fourier wrote: »

By world religions do you mean those with a large following?

In most Monotheistic faiths God is good, essentially identified with good.

And yet, they will tell you, a good God will strike you down if you don't worship him...?

Fourier

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Most sci-fi is bascially someone's depiction of what God/religion is.

I really don't think most scifi is depicting God or religion. Some have religion in their setting and some involve God, but not most I would say.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

And yet, they will tell you, a good God will strike you down if you don't worship him...?

Few branches of monotheistic faiths say he would strike you down.

Regardless even if he did, in the faith of the religion he is good. It's an axiom of most religions that God is good.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fourier wrote: »

I really don't think most scifi is depicting God or religion. Some have religion in their setting and some involve God, but not most I would say.

I'm not saying the setting, I'm saying the meaning. It's not always going to be clear. Both Star Wars "Force" and Star Trek's "Prime directive" (observation but non-interference in alien worlds) could be seen to be depictions of religion.

Few branches of monotheistic faiths say he would strike you down.

Regardless even if he did, in the faith of the religion he is good. It's an axiom of most religions that God is good.

This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm portraying God as neutral, not portray religions portraying God as neutal.

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Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'm not saying the setting, I'm saying the meaning. It's not always going to be clear. Both Star Wars "Force" and Star Trek's "Prime directive" (observation but non-interference in alien worlds) could be seen to be depictions of religion.



This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm portraying God as neutral, not portray religions portraying God as neutal.

That you have issues separating reality from fiction is troubling.

Star wars)trek/gate are not real.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Matilda Hollow Vulgarity wrote: »

That you have issues separating reality from fiction is troubling.

Star wars)trek/gate are not real.

Emmm... where did you get the impression that I thought they were real??!!! Cluthcing at straws here (and very thin ones at that).

I just used one or two of the well known ones to illustrate my point. But I think you already know that.

Fourier

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'm not saying the setting, I'm saying the meaning. It's not always going to be clear. Both Star Wars "Force" and Star Trek's "Prime directive" (observation but non-interference in alien worlds) could be seen to be depictions of religion.

The Force yes, the Prime Directive I'm not so sure. Sure "Not Interfering" could be linked to religion, but it's a tenuous link that doesn't have any specific relation to religion more than just to ethics. Besides those are two SciFi shows, most SciFi would include movies, shows, books and most SciFi is not really concerned with religion as far as I have read or watched. Especially not SciFi novels. It's a bit more common on TV.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm portraying God as neutral, not portray religions portraying God as neutal.

It's not a prophecy, it's just a statement of how religions view God. He simply is good in most Monotheistic religions.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fourier wrote: »

The Force yes, the Prime Directive I'm not so sure. Sure "Not Interfering" could be linked to religion, but it's a tenuous link that doesn't have any specific relation to religion more than just to ethics. Besides those are two SciFi shows, most SciFi would include movies, shows, books and most SciFi is not really concerned with religion as far as I have read or watched. Especially not SciFi novels. It's a bit more common on TV.

Fair enough, "most" is a bit of an exaggeration, but you get my point.

As for the prime directive, I've heard priests (and other equivalents to be fair) say that God's will is to not interfer, when people ask why God lets bad things happen, like natural disasters.

It's not a prophecy, it's just a statement of how religions view God. He simply is good in most Monotheistic religions.

It's neither prophecy not a statement of how religions view God.

Fourier

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

As for the prime directive, I've heard priests (and other equivalents to be fair) say that God's will is to not interfer, when people ask why God lets bad things happen, like natural disasters.

Yes God doesn't interfere so as not to contradict Free Will and in Star Trek they don't interfere so a culture can develop, but about the only similarity is that they don't interfere. Beyond that very general feature they're not the same.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's neither prophecy not a statement of how religions view God.

My sentence was a statement about how religions view God, they view him as good not neutral.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fourier wrote: »

Yes God doesn't interfere so as not to contradict Free Will and in Star Trek they don't interfere so a culture can develop, but about the only similarity is that they don't interfere. Beyond that very general feature they're not the same.

I'd argue we're in the same ballpark - non-interferance.

My sentence was a statement about how religions view God, they view him as good not neutral.

Not disagreeing with you - but I don't subscribe to these religions.

The cynic in me would say that they only portray him as such so that they can promote fear and thus control people, but that's a different thread.

Fourier

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'd argue we're in the same ballpark - non-interferance.

As I said it is non-interference, but Star Trek doesn't deal with it in a religious way. For instance God judges and in courtroom dramas the judge judges, but court room TV shows aren't religiously themed just because they share one generic feature.

lsjmhar

JMMCapital wrote: »

orli na nh wrote: »

I wouldn't be doing that, in any sense. I'm sure he's a nice guy but he's just too smug

Richard is a genius, no better man imo!

As one man said, good biologist, ****e theologian!!!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fourier wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'd argue we're in the same ballpark - non-interferance.

As I said it is non-interference, but Star Trek doesn't deal with it in a religious way. For instance God judges and in courtroom dramas the judge judges, but court room TV shows aren't religiously themed just because they share one generic feature.

At this point I'm going to bow to your knowledge of Star Trek (kind of ironic, considering sometime just accused me of taking it too seriously and thinking it was real) beacuse it's going off point!

Non- interference (as in, God's in our lives) for whatever reason, as a point of neutrality was the point I was trying to make.

Fourier

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Non- interference (as in, God's in our lives) for whatever reason, as a point of neutrality was the point I was trying to make.

In Christianity and Judaism for example God doesn't interfere because it/he/she (all three are used in the Tanakh) is neutral, but because God is good. A moral treatment of the Free Will of others requires not nullifying their choices and circumstances. Thus God does not interfere for morally good reasons as far as those religions are concerned.

Hotblack Desiato

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well, obviously; but the evidence points at such.

Evidence? :pac:

So we're saying Q is god

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

bluewolf wrote: »

So we're saying Q is god

You'd have to ask a Trekkie that.

Graces7

Religion is not faith and faith is not religion.

Bosco13

corner of hells wrote: »

I told my eldest when he was 5 that Bono was God , herself got the call from the school that morning when he told a visiting priest that Bono was God.

I got to sleep in the spare room for a while.

Are you Bono?

Necro

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