De-platforming fascists works

sk8erboii · 16-09-2019 4:44am

Veritas Libertas wrote: »

To what end? Do you consider yourself like Batman going around making the world a better place?

What if you mistakenly hear someone call themselves a fascist but it was out of context or a joke, or what if they say it just to piss you off, how will you know if they are truly a fascist, or does it matter?

Are you making the world a better place, or are you being a 'big-man'?

Didnt read any of that. Though I can already tell its waffle and mental gymnastics.

There is no leeway with fascism. If it holds the status quo it leads to mass killings every single time.

Fascists Are fair game to be murdered and humiliated. if you feel personally attacked by this statement then thats on you. Fascism is an indefensible position and its defeat in real life every single time is proof of that

Veritas Libertas · 16-09-2019 5:17am

sk8erboii wrote: »

Didnt read any of that. Though I can already tell its waffle and mental gymnastics.

There is no leeway with fascism. If it holds the status quo it leads to mass killings every single time.

Fascists Are fair game to be murdered and humiliated. if you feel personally attacked by this statement then thats on you. Fascism is an indefensible position and its defeat in real life every single time is proof of that

So you're Batman. I hope you get the communists too, they were responsible for far more atrocities than then fascists. I'll send the bat signal when I see one ok!

ceadaoin. · 16-09-2019 5:46am

sk8erboii wrote: »

Didnt read any of that. Though I can already tell its waffle and mental gymnastics.

There is no leeway with fascism. If it holds the status quo it leads to mass killings every single time.

Fascists Are fair game to be murdered and humiliated. if you feel personally attacked by this statement then thats on you. Fascism is an indefensible position and its defeat in real life every single time is proof of that

Haha, so how many "fascists" have you beaten and/or murdered and humiliated then? Any?

Didn't think so.

SSr0 · 16-09-2019 6:01am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Haha, so how many "fascists" have you beaten and/or murdered and humiliated then? Any?

Didn't think so.

Hard to beat anyone when your stats are : 17, 5'7" and 8 stone soaking wet.

WB Yokes · 16-09-2019 6:41am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Haha, so how many "fascists" have you beaten and/or murdered and humiliated then? Any?

Didn't think so.

Seems we have a Walter Mitty type on our hands here.

Tasfasdf · 16-09-2019 7:34am

sk8erboii wrote: »

Didnt read any of that. Though I can already tell its waffle and mental gymnastics.

There is no leeway with fascism. If it holds the status quo it leads to mass killings every single time.

Fascists Are fair game to be murdered and humiliated. if you feel personally attacked by this statement then thats on you. Fascism is an indefensible position and its defeat in real life every single time is proof of that

Big man, let me buy you a pack of gym. I'll show you how to chew it.

Ironicname · 16-09-2019 7:41am

sk8erboii wrote:

Didnt read any of that.

sk8erboii wrote:

Fascists Are fair game to be murdered and humiliated.

You seem reasonable

Tokyo · 16-09-2019 8:07am

sk8erboii wrote: »

Fascists Are fair game to be murdered and humiliated. if you feel personally attacked by this statement then thats on you.

Mod: Oh quit it with the internet bravado. Don't post again if you can't add constructively to the thread.

Hector Savage · 16-09-2019 8:08am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

De-platforming fascists works

Liberals that have monopolized a service can misuse their position and silence those they disagree with.... and it works.

Exactly, my problem here is what is their definition of "fascist" ?
It's not the proper one, it's anyone who deviates from the acceptable left stance.

splinter65 · 16-09-2019 8:16am

Hector Savage wrote: »

Exactly, my problem here is what is their definition of "fascist" ?
It's not the proper one, it's anyone who deviates from the acceptable left stance.

That’s it basically.

splinter65 · 16-09-2019 8:17am

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Big man, let me buy you a pack of gym. I'll show you how to chew it.

I’m picturing this guy as the cretin that roundhouse kicked in the face the anti abortion campaigner girl in the famous video.

Hector Savage · 16-09-2019 8:42am

sk8erboii wrote: »

There’s literally nothing wrong with deplatforming/humiliating/beating up anyone who claims to be fascist.

If you disagree, you’re just an edgy contrarian.

What is your definition of a fascist sk8rboii?

for example - is Douglas Murray a fascist ?

sk8erboii · 16-09-2019 10:17am

Lads there is no defensible position in being a fascist. If your ideology is inherently hostile to anyone who isn’t (whatever category you choose to be superior to everyone else) then dont be surprised when you are not tolerated.

And no, the USA , UK and the Allies were not being fascist when they killed as many of them as they could during WW2. Fascism is not something to be tolerated or protected by a legislation.

It is a hostile and murderous ideology, hence why in real life it gets cut down. if you find yourself personally attacked by this statement that is 100% on you

nullzero · 16-09-2019 10:22am

sk8erboii wrote: »

Lads there is no defensible position in being a fascist. If your ideology is inherently hostile to anyone who isn’t (whatever category you choose to be superior to everyone else) then dont be surprised when you are not tolerated.

And no, the USA , UK and the Allies were not being fascist when they killed as many of them as they could during WW2. Fascism is not something to be tolerated or protected by a legislation.

It is a hostile and murderous ideology, hence why in real life it gets cut down. if you find yourself personally attacked by this statement that is 100% on you

So two wrongs make a right?

sk8erboii · 16-09-2019 10:24am

mike_ie wrote: »

Mod: Oh quit it with the internet bravado. Don't post again if you can't add constructively to the thread.

Sure no problem.

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Big man, let me buy you a pack of gym. I'll show you how to chew it.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Haha, so how many "fascists" have you beaten and/or murdered and humiliated then? Any?

Didn't think so.

SSr0 wrote: »

Hard to beat anyone when your stats are : 17, 5'7" and 8 stone soaking wet.

Why do you all have a visceral reaction against being told fascists will get cut down?

sk8erboii · 16-09-2019 10:26am

nullzero wrote: »

So two wrongs make a right?

Imagine telling a WW2 veteran from the UK or US that killing Nazis was wrong

Hector Savage · 16-09-2019 11:52am

But the problem here is sk8r - I agree with you if you are actually talking about REAL NAZIS, the issue I have is with WHO you consider a nazi ? - and many on the left it seems nowadays ...

Donald Trump ?

Douglas Murray (as mentioned)

Sam Harris ?
Jordan Peterson ?

jimgoose · 16-09-2019 11:58am

'Tis the feckin' Blueshirts! Mad Duffy will have the working man aytin' the grass off the ditches!!

nullzero · 16-09-2019 11:58am

sk8erboii wrote: »

Imagine telling a WW2 veteran from the UK or US that killing Nazis was wrong

That's not what's being discussed.

You are talking about assaulting and or murdering people who identify as fascists as well as humiliating them.

Fascists are thin on the ground in this country, and for that matter most countries. So therefor you're means of dealing with them is nonsensical, illegal and reinforces the world view these people already have. In essence what you are saying you would do to them in their view validates their beliefs.

ohnonotgmail · 16-09-2019 12:01pm

nullzero wrote: »

That's not what's being discussed.

You are talking about assaulting and or murdering people who identify as fascists as well as humiliating them.

Fascists are thin on the ground in this country, and for that matter most countries. So therefor you're means of dealing with them is nonsensical, illegal and reinforces the world view these people already have. In essence what you are saying you would do to them in their view validates their beliefs.

do you think reasoned discussion would be a better approach?

WB Yokes · 16-09-2019 12:06pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

do you think reasoned discussion would be a better approach?

Better than murdering people yes certainly, do you not think?

nullzero · 16-09-2019 12:09pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

do you think reasoned discussion would be a better approach?

Yes.

Surely that's self evident.

Or do we just follow the nonsensical ideals of Antifa and dress in black and assault people who have ideologies that differ from ours?

ohnonotgmail · 16-09-2019 12:09pm

WB Yokes wrote: »

Better than murdering people yes certainly, do you not think?

so what sort of reasoned discussion do you think you can have with somebody who thinks another group of people are subhuman? how exactly would that conversation go?

nullzero · 16-09-2019 12:11pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so what sort of reasoned discussion do you think you can have with somebody who thinks another group of people are subhuman? how exactly would that conversation go?

Does immorality of one group excuse similar immorality on the part of those opposed to them?

This is pretty basic stuff.

Outlaw Pete · 16-09-2019 12:11pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

Lads there is no defensible position in being a fascist. If your ideology is inherently hostile to anyone who isn’t (whatever category you choose to be superior to everyone else) then dont be surprised when you are not tolerated.

lol. You're describing liberals there with that comment, as they are the ones "inherently hostile" to those with different views.

It is a hostile and murderous ideology..

Says the guy justifying murder.

You do realise that just because the Twitter mob label someone a fascist, that doesn't actually make them one.

WB Yokes · 16-09-2019 12:12pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so what sort of reasoned discussion do you think you can have with somebody who thinks another group of people are subhuman? how exactly would that conversation go?

Do you agree having a conversation with a fascist is bettter than murdering them? What would be your approach?

ohnonotgmail · 16-09-2019 12:13pm

nullzero wrote: »

Does immorality of one group excuse similar immorality on the part of those opposed to them?

This is pretty basic stuff.

so what opposition to fascism do you think is acceptable? You want to adopt a live and let live attitude to fascists when they would assuredly not extend that courtesy to you.

ohnonotgmail · 16-09-2019 12:14pm

WB Yokes wrote: »

Do you agree having a conversation with a fascist is bettter than murdering them? What would be your approach?

but what would that conversation entail? what would be the intellectual basis for the discussion given that fascism does not have an intellectual base.

WB Yokes · 16-09-2019 12:16pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

but what would that conversation entail? what would be the intellectual basis for the discussion given that fascism does not have an intellectual base.

Ok so its a waste of time talking to a fascist in your view. Fine. So what would your approach be?

nullzero · 16-09-2019 12:16pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so what opposition to fascism do you think is acceptable? You want to adopt a live and let live attitude to fascists when they would assuredly not extend that courtesy to you.

Fascism is not an issue in the modern world.

Any right wing political groups are now labeled as fascist by people who don't properly understand what fascism is.

There are fascists in the world but they are in tiny groups who have no hope of gaining power.

De-platforming fascists works

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