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Law Firm Milkrounds 2019

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Pasterwords123


    Paraeagle wrote: »
    Wondering this too! I’ve had a few offers but for the September 2022 intake and ideally wanted to get in earlier. Does anyone have an insight on whether any of the firms take on people prior to completion of their FE-1s? In a pre-trainee, paralegal, legal assistant etc capacity?

    Yes they do! You typically have to ask whether they can take pre-trainees, which they usually do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 starfishxxo


    Nothing yet
    jus_me wrote: »
    any words from Hayes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Coleman101


    Does anyone have exp with RDJ interviews any help appreciated


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Does anyone know what the Matheson salary is?


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭amusicalfrog


    Anybody know if McCann's (or firms generally) are receptive to pushing contracts back a year? On my application form I said 2021 would suit but since then I've applied for masters programmes and was hoping that I could maybe push it back a bit - don't quite fancy juggling masters and FE1s at the same time!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 35 BemusedKettle


    Had two first round interviews, neither of which panned out unfortunately.

    oh well! I was wondering if anybody has any insight into how the firms view masters degrees? Do they have any tangible impact on your Big Firm prospects or are they a waste of time?

    I have an itching to spend a year abroad and there seems to be some good degree programmes out there


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Had two first round interviews, neither of which panned out unfortunately.

    oh well! I was wondering if anybody has any insight into how the firms view masters degrees? Do they have any tangible impact on your Big Firm prospects or are they a waste of time?

    I have an itching to spend a year abroad and there seems to be some good degree programmes out there

    It seems to really be your preference whether you do a masters or not. I haven’t heard of any firms preferring you to have one.

    I actually finally secured a contract this time around after four years of applying and so will share my thoughts on the process in case it is of use to anyone. I had interviews with 6 firms which was up from 2 last year and never being called beforehand.

    I think most important is to respect how competitive the process is. Firms will give training contracts to people after summer internships following two years of their degree programme so it is in my opinion it is just about the overall strength of your application.

    There are loads of initial criteria by which everyone is assessed ie leaving cert, college grades, and personal hobbies/achievements. If you are lacking in some or all of these areas it is best to build yourself up in others. I think what swung it for me was my work experience.

    I had just under 500 LC points, a 2.1, and some good work experience pre-graduation but my first and second year grades weren’t great. Anyone with a top end leaving and consistent college grades would have beaten me until I strengthened elsewhere.

    I held two full time roles after graduating which gave me plenty to talk about on applications. It allowed me to identify practice areas which interested me and to learn about different firms’ activities in those areas. This is an easy way to show you have researched the firm and to explain why you’re a good fit for them.

    If I had any advice it would be not to take any rejection personally and to try and use your self-belief to motivate yourself to persist. If you keep gaining experience and plug away with the FE1s eventually your applications will show dedication and resilience and the interviews will come.

    I don’t know if this is even helpful but I remember feeling terribly disheartened and wanting to throw the towel in when I had no success last year. I didn’t even want to apply this year. You owe it to yourself and all you’ve done to date to keep at it so don’t give up!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 starfishxxo


    I don't think they're overly concerned whether you have a Masters per se - in fact, I would think relevant work experience would rank higher.
    However, your choice of masters programme or dissertation topic might make you stand out to firms specialising in that area. This was definitely the case for me anyway.
    Had two first round interviews, neither of which panned out unfortunately.

    oh well! I was wondering if anybody has any insight into how the firms view masters degrees? Do they have any tangible impact on your Big Firm prospects or are they a waste of time?

    I have an itching to spend a year abroad and there seems to be some good degree programmes out there


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 HG48


    Has anyone heard back from dechert from assessment?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Pasterwords123


    It seems to really be your preference whether you do a masters or not. I haven’t heard of any firms preferring you to have one.

    I actually finally secured a contract this time around after four years of applying and so will share my thoughts on the process in case it is of use to anyone. I had interviews with 6 firms which was up from 2 last year and never being called beforehand.

    I think most important is to respect how competitive the process is. Firms will give training contracts to people after summer internships following two years of their degree programme so it is in my opinion it is just about the overall strength of your application.

    There are loads of initial criteria by which everyone is assessed ie leaving cert, college grades, and personal hobbies/achievements. If you are lacking in some or all of these areas it is best to build yourself up in others. I think what swung it for me was my work experience.

    I had just under 500 LC points, a 2.1, and some good work experience pre-graduation but my first and second year grades weren’t great. Anyone with a top end leaving and consistent college grades would have beaten me until I strengthened elsewhere.

    I held two full time roles after graduating which gave me plenty to talk about on applications. It allowed me to identify practice areas which interested me and to learn about different firms’ activities in those areas. This is an easy way to show you have researched the firm and to explain why you’re a good fit for them.

    If I had any advice it would be not to take any rejection personally and to try and use your self-belief to motivate yourself to persist. If you keep gaining experience and plug away with the FE1s eventually your applications will show dedication and resilience and the interviews will come.

    I don’t know if this is even helpful but I remember feeling terribly disheartened and wanting to throw the towel in when I had no success last year. I didn’t even want to apply this year. You owe it to yourself and all you’ve done to date to keep at it so don’t give up!!

    I think people definitely underestimate just how competitive these processes are and how important it is to be able to stand out.

    When I was at TCD I knew someone who really didn't have impressive experiences or extra-curriculars, but he was basically ranked first out of the class. Without question he got at least an interview with every single firm he applied to. If you can stand out from the hundreds of other applicants (in a very good way!) you're halfway there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Gomzu


    Has anyone heard anything from Hayes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Bradymagic


    Gomzu wrote: »
    Has anyone heard anything from Hayes?

    Nope! I’m thinking a PFO is on the horizon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Fe1hayes


    Anyone know how long rdj take to respond interviewed Tuesday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭jus_me


    Bradymagic wrote: »
    Nope! I’m thinking a PFO is on the horizon.

    Anyone heard from Hayes


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 ciarocxcc


    Anyone interview with Beauchamps?


  • Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭jus_me


    Have Hayes sent PFOs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    jus_me wrote: »
    Have Hayes sent PFOs?

    Yep I got one on Monday last week I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Gomzu


    Yep I got one on Monday last week I think

    I still haven’t heard anything? Can’t tell if this is a good thing or if they just forgot to send my rejection email!


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    You’d be within your rights to call or at least email, we were to hear the week after second round


  • Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭jus_me


    Gomzu wrote: »
    I still haven’t heard anything? Can’t tell if this is a good thing or if they just forgot to send my rejection email!

    Haven't heard anything either and no PFO...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Gomzu


    jus_me wrote: »
    Haven't heard anything either and no PFO...

    This must surely be the longest wait for an offer/ rejection in milkrounds history...


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Gomzu


    Gomzu wrote: »
    This must surely be the longest wait for an offer/ rejection in milkrounds history...

    Has anyone heard anything at all? I imagine this is the last day before Christmas we could expect an answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭jus_me


    Gomzu wrote: »
    Has anyone heard anything at all? I imagine this is the last day before Christmas we could expect an answer.

    Nothing! Still no Pfo


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Gomzu


    jus_me wrote: »
    Nothing! Still no Pfo

    A little birdie has told me that everyone involved in the trainee hiring process in Hayes is finished for Christmas.... won’t be hearing till new year :/


  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭T.Chunter164


    Does anyone have any experience with assessment centres for law firms?

    Specifically freshfields, what kind of stuff are we expected to be asked?


  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭T.Chunter164


    Gomzu wrote: »
    A little birdie has told me that everyone involved in the trainee hiring process in Hayes is finished for Christmas.... won’t be hearing till new year :/

    It's the same with LK Shields, I know people who are still waiting to hear back... they left it very late, would rather have peace of mind over Christmas instead of worrying about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 MNUG19


    It's the same with LK Shields, I know people who are still waiting to hear back... they left it very late, would rather have peace of mind over Christmas instead of worrying about it.

    Haven't hear back from LK Shields after second interview either. Presume it won't be until the new year at this stage...


  • Registered Users Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Does anyone have any experience with assessment centres for law firms?

    Specifically freshfields, what kind of stuff are we expected to be asked?

    I would go to Reddit if I were you. r/uklawstudents is crazy active and you’ll get any information you need and more there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭T.Chunter164


    Anyone interviewing with AMOSS in mid January?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 MNUG19


    Just curious has anyone received an offer from LK Shields as of yet?


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