oughterard people - see OP for Mod warning 29/09/19

topper75 · 19-09-2019 12:11pm

WB Yokes wrote: »

An asylum-seeker who assumed a false identity to allow him to work in Ireland, before claiming €50,000 in social welfare payments when he lost his job, has avoided going to prison...
Handing down a suspended two-year sentence, Judge Catherine Murphy noted that although Sow claimed his entitlements under a false name, he never tried to claim double payments. “As soon as he was given an alternative social welfare payment, he ceased claiming the first payment,” she said...

Ah the decent sort. Gave up the first scam when he found another! Sure how could you send such a kind soul to prison? And he had dark-coloured skin the poor divil. We've all seen Roots and Mississippi Burning. We don't want to be seen to be the baddies here

How they must laugh into their sleeves when they leave the courthouse. You can hardly imagine how little respect they have for the Irish. Another layer of scum on top of the native one. And millions and millions of them waiting to get here. Unsustainable.

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:11pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So if as some have suggested that Ireland is not an attractive place to come to then why on earth do they not claim asylum in the first country they arrive in.

Probably because they know we are a welfare state and if they stick it out in DP for a few years they are living on easy street.

Not really the point with regard to the Dublin regulations. There’s never been a requirement on asylum seekers to make their claim in a first safe country. Plenty of more generous welfare states to choose from, as we all know.

The_Kew_Tour · 19-09-2019 12:14pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

So almost 95% were bogus?

95% clogging up the system and preventing accommodation of genuine refugees.

And that's the bit I laugh at and they dont see it.

95% bogus claims and the genuine ones who need help are being left behind.

Ask many Afghan Women and Children who were taken into Europe and you get many expressing their concerns that they still have families left behind over these bogus claims.

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:15pm

WB Yokes wrote: »

I dont think anyone said that. Its just an example of how easy it is to swap identities and scam the system here in Ireland. And im sure there are many more like him.

Except he got caught. So not so easy.

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:16pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Ok, you know better than the European Court of Justice. FFS :rolleyes:

I know how to read. I’m not contradicting anything the ECJ has said.

Bullocks · 19-09-2019 12:19pm

Happyilylost wrote: »

Boggles wrote: »

Dozens of schools, GPs and 3 Hospitals in a 25 km radius.

14 bus routes to the city center every day.

Services don't sound like a problem TBH.

I would love to have that level of service.

I'm from Galway. I'm not from Oughterard. People can be as pro asylum seeker as they like. Oughterard is not a suitable location. It's unfair to both the residents of Oughterard AND THE ASYLUM SEEKERS. Put them into Galway City which is a lot more suitable location. I would love for someone who thinks it's fine to stay a day out there in a cold day in November and see what it's like. Up until recently two cars couldn't even pass going over the bridge in village.

You have it in a nutshell there Happy. If Boogles spent a few weeks living around that hotel and trying to avail of all the services he is waffling about he wouldn't be long looking closer to Galway to make life easier

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:20pm

Bullocks wrote: »

Wouldn't you wonder why they make the effort to come as far west considering how they would be better off in so many other countries haha , passing out the best of host countries to flounder in our harsh , heavily protected welfare country . Silly asylum seekers ...

We’re far from the most inviting state in the EU for welfare support for asylum seekers. That’s just a simple fact. Your claim simply doesn’t hold water.

WB Yokes · 19-09-2019 12:20pm

alastair wrote: »

Except he got caught. So not so easy.

He got caught because he was a moron.

Doblin · 19-09-2019 12:21pm

Bullocks wrote: »

Have you a link to the 14 bus routes into the city centre lad ?

https://www.buseire

ToBeFrank123 · 19-09-2019 12:22pm

Boggles wrote: »

Dozens of schools, GPs and 3 Hospitals in a 25 km radius.

They are not going to use those other GPs. They are going to use the one closest to them and if they are on medical cards, use him often.

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:22pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

OK you accept they aren't racists in Oughterard, just people pushing back against what looks like a dictatorial move by government, with a communication and consultation style which wouldn't be out of place in the USSR.

That presupposes there’s any obligation on the government to consult with locals on this. There isn’t. You may not like that fact, but it’s a fact nonetheless. The hotel was built with planning permission for residency volumes etc and it’s now a matter of who goes in the hotel. That’s never a matter of consultation.

Doblin · 19-09-2019 12:23pm

Bullocks wrote: »

Have you a link to the 14 bus routes into the city centre lad ?

https://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=406&form-view-timetables-from=Galway+%28Bus+Station%29&form-view-timetables-to=Roundstone+%28House+Hotel%29&form-view-timetables-route=&form-view-timetables-submit=1 https://www.citylink.ie/timetables

Bullocks · 19-09-2019 12:25pm

Doblin wrote: »

Bullocks wrote: »

Have you a link to the 14 bus routes into the city centre lad ?

https://www.buseire

Nothing showing on that

weldoninhio · 19-09-2019 12:26pm

Doblin wrote: »

https://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=406&form-view-timetables-from=Galway+%28Bus+Station%29&form-view-timetables-to=Roundstone+%28House+Hotel%29&form-view-timetables-route=&form-view-timetables-submit=1

Thats 5, not 14

ToBeFrank123 · 19-09-2019 12:27pm

alastair wrote: »

That presupposes there’s any obligation on the government to consult with locals on this. There isn’t. You may not like that fact, but it’s a fact nonetheless. The hotel was built with planning permission for residency volumes etc and it’s now a matter of who goes in the hotel. That’s never a matter of consultation.

Hotel guests don't generally overload the local GP or schools.
Nice try.

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:27pm

topper75 wrote: »

Ah the decent sort. Gave up the first scam when he found another! Sure how could you send such a kind soul to prison? And he had dark-coloured skin the poor divil. We've all seen Roots and Mississippi Burning. We don't want to be seen to be the baddies here

How they must laugh into their sleeves when they leave the courthouse. You can hardly imagine how little respect they have for the Irish. Another layer of scum on top of the native one. And millions and millions of them waiting to get here. Unsustainable.

Not a racist ☝️

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:28pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Hotel guests don't generally overload the local GP or schools.
Nice try.

Where’s the consultation on either of these issues in every other community? It isn’t a requirement.

ToBeFrank123 · 19-09-2019 12:29pm

alastair wrote: »

Not a racist ☝️

Congrats! You have reached your racist accusation quota for today. The badge is in the post.

Doblin · 19-09-2019 12:30pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Thats 5, not 14

Check out the Citylink link to, route 923 clifden to Galway

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:30pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

And that's the bit I laugh at and they dont see it.

95% bogus claims and the genuine ones who need help are being left behind.

Ask many Afghan Women and Children who were taken into Europe and you get many expressing their concerns that they still have families left behind over these bogus claims.

Rejected claim doesn’t equate to bogus claim.

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:31pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Congrats! You have reached your racist accusation quota for today. The badge is in the post.

Are you honestly not prepared to see the racism in that post. I doubt it.

ToBeFrank123 · 19-09-2019 12:31pm

alastair wrote: »

Where’s the consultation on either of these issues in every other community? It isn’t a requirement.

What are you referring to exactly? DPCs in other communities?

A community should have a right to say No to anything they want. That's democracy.

If something like this was put in the constituency of one of the liberal Dublin politicians, you can imagine the response. They routinely oppose even normal apartment buildings because it might ruin the area or drug treatment facilities.

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:32pm

WB Yokes wrote: »

He got caught because he was a moron.

No hope for you then.

Bullocks · 19-09-2019 12:32pm

Doblin wrote: »

Bullocks wrote: »

Have you a link to the 14 bus routes into the city centre lad ?

https://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=406&form-view-timetables-from=Galway+%28Bus+Station%29&form-view-timetables-to=Roundstone+%28House+Hotel%29&form-view-timetables-route=&form-view-timetables-submit=1

They are going from Galway through Oughterard to Clifden.
Doubt they will want to go that direction.
There are far from 14 buses going from Oughterard to Galway City. A girl renting beside me here is finding it very hard to get regular buses into Galway and can't get the bus that used to collect her special needs child from where she lived previously to school anymore. Hopefully she will get that worked out soon for her kids sake.

topper75 · 19-09-2019 12:34pm

alastair wrote: »

Not a racist ☝️

Glad you acknowledge. It would be silly to get excited about peoples' skin colour when faced with a blatant resource issue.

ToBeFrank123 · 19-09-2019 12:34pm

alastair wrote: »

Are you honestly not prepared to see the racism in that post. I doubt it.

I can see that he's frustrated how we accommodate criminals from abroad give them a slap on the wrist and allow them remain here.

As he said, its hard enough dealing with Irish criminals without letting in and keeping those from abroad.

The colour of their skin doesn't matter by the way. The same would apply if they were white Caucasian criminals from abroad.

WB Yokes · 19-09-2019 12:34pm

alastair wrote: »

No hope for you then.

Thats grand im not a scamming poxbottle from Africa. The only thing worse than them is clueless apologists like yourself.

ToBeFrank123 · 19-09-2019 12:35pm

alastair wrote: »

Rejected claim doesn’t equate to bogus claim.

It so does. Rejected means they had no grounds. Which means they were a chancer, a bogus claimer.

Doblin · 19-09-2019 12:36pm

Bullocks wrote: »

They are going from Galway through Oughterard to Clifden.
Doubt they will want to go that direction.
There are far from 14 buses going from Oughterard to Galway City. A girl renting beside me here is finding it very hard to get regular buses into Galway and can't get the bus that used to collect her special needs child from where she lived previously to school anymore. Hopefully she will get that worked out soon for her kids sake.

Lmfao, you really don't know your geography of the place, stop making a fool of yourself good man

alastair · 19-09-2019 12:38pm

Bullocks wrote: »

They are going from Galway through Oughterard to Clifden.
Doubt they will want to go that direction.
There are far from 14 buses going from Oughterard to Galway City. A girl renting beside me here is finding it very hard to get regular buses into Galway and can't get the bus that used to collect her special needs child from where she lived previously to school anymore. Hopefully she will get that worked out soon for her kids sake.

There are six citylink busses from Oughterard to Galway daily, and eight bus eireann busses. No requirement to go anywhere near Clifden.

https://www.busbud.com/en/bus-schedules-results/gc3rgs/gc3x41?outbound_date=2019-09-20&adults=1

https://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=406&form-view-timetables-from=Oughterard+%28Gateway+Hotel%29&form-view-timetables-to=Galway+%28Bus+Station%29&form-view-timetables-route=&form-view-timetables-submit=1

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