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Seathrun66 wrote: »

And refugee status has never been dependent on war

So why are you always banging on about these 'war-torn' folks, don't you even bother to read your own posts after spewing them out?

Maybe to busy running to the Speak and Spell game.

ToBeFrank123

Seathrun66 wrote: »

No, not at all. Read the article before posting. You've just successfully argued against your own case here. Thanks for saving me the bother.

I read the article. In theory they can keep out criminals. In reality dozens got in.

I prefer to deal with the reality if thats ok?

Seathrun66

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

So you're confirming the suggestion of empty vessels (making noise and all...)

Listen if you've nothing worthwhile to put forward, why not get schooled yourself by all these Doctors, Programmers & Engineers in their 'undisputed' perfect 'grade A' English.

Jumping out of light crafts (after handing 6-10k to criminal trafficking gangs). Here's a top tip: double check their Phd papers using UV light for true authenticity.

You obviously don't get the Glass Houses proverb. Easily checked and not too intellectually challenging. Give yourself a few minutes.

My schooling is long done. And much of it by people from some of the nations you have such disdain for. Many of whom (in their second or third language) could help improve your own. Pro bono if you drop the hatred.

Mr. teddywinkles

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

So why are you always banging on about these 'war-torn' folks, don't you even bother to read your own posts after spewing them out?

Maybe to busy running to the Speak and Spell game.

We're the uneducated ones. We can't spell

Seathrun66

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

If these places are so wartorn or poverty stricken is it not right to say education would be there last priority. So which is it. Great education or wartorn and broken countries.

What was Irish education like before and during the War of Independence/Civil War.

What was the British/German/French education standard before and during WWI and WWII?

You surely realise that most of these refugees of working age were already educated pre-war?

Seathrun66

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Yep

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

The BNP won a whopping 1.9% at the 2010 election. The national front won an impressive 0.04%!

With no xenophobic representation in the Conservative Party? From today's Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/20/conservative-members-suspended-for-online-islamophobia

And 2010? Nothing more current?

Seathrun66

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

So why are you always banging on about these 'war-torn' folks, don't you even bother to read your own posts after spewing them out?

Maybe to busy running to the Speak and Spell game.

Examples, my dear boy, examples.

Seathrun66

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

I read the article. In theory they can keep out criminals. In reality dozens got in.

I prefer to deal with the reality if thats ok?

Negligent policing. Not negligent legislation.

4068ac1elhodqr

Seathrun66 wrote: »

My schooling is long done.

Sure is.

Seathrun66 wrote: »

And much of it by people from some of the nations you have such disdain for.

You can withdraw that.
I'm pro-migration. Legal migration that is, if that's not too offensive to you.
But sure, maybe you're one of the beneficiaries of the trafficking system, or the expenses racket that evolves out of it, maybe you run the catering, hotel, or some other lucrative contracts that lines pocket.

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Many of whom (in their second or third language) could help improve your own.

So anyone that can speak more that one language is suddenly working with an upper range advanced IQ? Well this is certainly fresh news to the wider academia.

Spelling check to commence in 3,2,1....

Seathrun66

Anyway, adieu lads. You've got twelve or more hours to come up with something more substantial than an anecdote about foreigners stealing your beer or women or something like that. Use some research or facts and win the argument.

Harvey Weinstein

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

Sure is.


You can withdraw that.
I'm pro-migration. Legal migration that is, if that's not too offensive to you.
But sure, maybe you're one of the beneficiaries of the trafficking system, or the expenses racket that evolves out of it, maybe you run the catering, hotel, or some other lucrative contracts that line pockets.


So anyone that can speak more that one language is suddenly working with an upper range advanced IQ? Well this is certainly fresh news to the wider academia.

You can be 100% certain of that..

Seathrun66

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

Sure is.


You can withdraw that.
I'm pro-migration. Legal migration that is, if that's not too offensive to you.
But sure, maybe you're one of the beneficiaries of the trafficking system, or the expenses racket that evolves out of it, maybe you run the catering, hotel, or some other lucrative contracts that line pockets.


So anyone that can speak more that one language is suddenly working with an upper range advanced IQ? Well this is certainly fresh news to the wider academia.

Nope, but many of those fleeing wars could use their second or third language to improve yours.

Harvey Weinstein

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Anyway, adieu lads. You've got twelve or more hours to come up with something more substantial than an anecdote about foreigners stealing your beer or women or something like that. Use some research or facts and win the argument.

Our research shows that there was almost unanimous agreement from locals in Oughterard that they did not under any circumstances want a DP centre in their town...thats enough for me.

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Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

You can be 100% certain of that..

Lol, he's off now, must have spooked the lad with the exposé.


Highly likely now buttering sambos at 1300% mark-up, to deliver round in the morning. Or perhaps to count the cash for some formerly 2star poorly managed hotel, now under full & easy occupancy. The boom is back.

4068ac1elhodqr

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Anyway, adieu lads. You've got twelve or more hours to come up with something more substantial than an anecdote about foreigners stealing your beer or women or something like that. Use some research or facts and win the argument.

Lad suggest people will be in delivering anecdotes soon.

Then makes the poor anecdote about 'foreigners stealing your beer or women'.
Classy.

Mr. teddywinkles

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Anyway, adieu lads. You've got twelve or more hours to come up with something more substantial than an anecdote about foreigners stealing your beer or women or something like that. Use some research or facts and win the argument.

Ya can't prove people are playing the system because the system is setup that way in the first place. Yer not going to have records of whats on going are ya now. It's like any scandal that comes to light. Unseen till public. The thing with this country we're told theres nothing to see here and move on. Btw which country and which war because there seems to wars every where according to our AS system.

Rockbeast2

Just to let every one know, there are at least two paid shills/posters here.

My sister is one of them. They can sue me. I can prove it.

You know who I'm typing about.

I'm not a multi-cult anymore.

Boggles

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

My sister is one of them. They can sue me. I can prove it.

Go on so.

malinheader

Is there such a thing as a paid poster.

alastair

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

Ya can't prove people are playing the system because the system is setup that way in the first place. Yer not going to have records of whats on going are ya now. It's like any scandal that comes to light. Unseen till public. The thing with this country we're told theres nothing to see here and move on. Btw which country and which war because there seems to wars every where according to our AS system.

One more time for luck. You don’t need a war as a prerequisite for an asylum claim.

alastair

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

Just to let every one know, there are at least two paid shills/posters here.

My sister is one of them. They can sue me. I can prove it.

You know who I'm typing about.

I'm not a multi-cult anymore.

Seems legit.

jammiedodgers

malinheader wrote: »

Is there such a thing as a paid poster.

I post while in work most of the time. So yes!

tigger123

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

Just to let every one know, there are at least two paid shills/posters here.

My sister is one of them. They can sue me. I can prove it.

You know who I'm typing about.

I'm not a multi-cult anymore.

Paid by who? And for what purpose?

Wibbs

tigger123 wrote: »

Paid by who? And for what purpose?

The "paid shill" thing is more than a bit overblown alright T, though down the years there have been a few examples of posters who it seems worked for different organisations, political or commercial who would have been "shills" for same to a lesser or greater degree. Well more than just normal posters that may support whatever viewpoint. Then you have the occasional more organised stuff like threads on Israel suddenly getting new or low post users wading in with well polished support for the Israeli position. They don't tend to be in play of late though, mainly because they were spotted early enough and laughed out of it because of their clumsiness.

Mr. teddywinkles

alastair wrote: »

One more time for luck. You don’t need a war as a prerequisite for an asylum claim.

So what's the excuse persecution. Lots of countries could harbour these people locally. Don't see why it's up to a country thousands of miles away to have responsibility.

Wibbs

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Source please. Preferably a breakdown of the occupations of Sudanese, Eritrean & other nationalities fleeing wars and persecution. If no information then better not to post random thoughts backed up by cloud formations.

There you go again. In between debating tactics best left to the adolescent mind, or someone not too used to being questioned, you change goalposts so often you clearly missed your calling as a groundskeeper.

You were the one who brought up these nebulous highly qualified individuals that are seeking asylum, so it's up to you to provide the breakdowns. I merely pointed out that such highly qualified individuals are highly unlikely to be illegally coming by sea, air or land, not when there are openings for such people throughout the EU.

Well clearly such highly qualified people aren't going the refugee route or the percentages of those refused from the top places like Albania, Georgia, Nigeria wouldn't be nearly 100%. Syria being the outlier, because mad crazy notion, there's an actual humanitarian sh1t show over there. So it seems our own International Protection Officers aren't seeing too many doctors crossing the threshold.

Seathrun66 wrote: »

That so? Then why the 52% for Brexit whose campaign was founded on a heavy dose of xenophobia. Some scratching under the surface and the fear of the other seeped through very quickly.

Indeed and for divilment let us agree on that point, that 52% of British voters in that referendum are racists/xenophobes to one degree or other. I have no problem with acknowledging xenophobia all the way to overt racism as an issue and that very thing is yet another reason why "multiculturalism" is doomed to failure. And again, no this time it won't be different.

alastair

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

So what's the excuse persecution. Lots of countries could harbour these people locally. Don't see why it's up to a country thousands of miles away to have responsibility.

You don’t? Ah well.

Rodin

They're damn right

alastair

Wibbs wrote: »

I have no problem with acknowledging xenophobia all the way to overt racism as an issue and that very thing is yet another reason why "multiculturalism" is doomed to failure. And again, no this time it won't be different.

Ah right. Just like Saudi provides the best social model for those awkward issues of sexism, homophobia, and sectarianism.

Woodsie1

alastair wrote: »

Ah right. Just like Saudi provides the best social model for those awkward issues of sexism, homophobia, and sectarianism.

What has that got to do with what Wibbs said?