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Mr E

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

A rejection is a rejection.

Maybe you're the type that pesters ladies at the bar/cafe, after they tell you to go away, or that they're not interested.

Rejection
/rɪˈdʒɛkʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: rejection; plural noun: rejections
the dismissing or refusing of a proposal, idea, etc.

Ah who knows, only speculating here of course, to explain what the word or 'concept of rejection' actually means, in this current reality we live in.

Mod: No need to be so petty. Try and keep things civilised, thanks.

JohnMc1

Boggles wrote: »

Welcome to today's edition of shít that never happened.

You can disappear now

https://itv.ie/kilkenny-parish-priest-pulls-race-card-on-his-parish-claims-jesus-wants-a-mosque-in-his-parish-sinn-fein-agrees/

https://kilkennyjournal.com/2018/07/09/the-mosque-eugene-mcguinness-replies-to-fr-frank-purcell-pp-st-johns-kilkenny-city/

https://kilkennyjournal.com/2018/07/11/kilkenny-parishioners-want-parish-priest-out-talk-of-bottles-of-scotch-in-the-presbytery/

Boggles

JohnMc1 wrote: »

You can disappear now

https://itv.ie/kilkenny-parish-priest-pulls-race-card-on-his-parish-claims-jesus-wants-a-mosque-in-his-parish-sinn-fein-agrees/

https://kilkennyjournal.com/2018/07/09/the-mosque-eugene-mcguinness-replies-to-fr-frank-purcell-pp-st-johns-kilkenny-city/

https://kilkennyjournal.com/2018/07/11/kilkenny-parishioners-want-parish-priest-out-talk-of-bottles-of-scotch-in-the-presbytery/

Oh dear. That would explain a lot. Is that where you have been filling your head?

Anyway.

Have you a link to the letter you sent them?

Seathrun66

eagle eye wrote: »

Did you ask a garda like you said you were going to? Obviously not because you are still posting here and you've said you would stop posting in this thread if there was a gang in Galway. There is one and you've been given proof as it's in a paper about Goodnews and a gang but that wasn't enough for you so I presented Tom Williams his buddy but that isn't enough for you either so I suggested you ask a Garda and you said you would.



You are still here though posting away so you are a liar. Lying that you would stop posting if it was proven there was a gang, lying that you would talk to a Garda, changing the goalposts whenever it suits you.

A regular member of the liberal nazi organisation obviously.

Nope, just someone who doesn't swallow lies, anecdotal nonsense and an utter lack of evidence of an organised African gang present in Galway. Three schoolkids and a 23 year old getting into a lunchtime skirmish ain't going to put the crime cartels out of business.

eagle eye

Seathrun66 wrote:

Nope, just someone who doesn't swallow lies, anecdotal nonsense and an utter lack of evidence of an organised African gang present in Galway. Three schoolkids and a 23 year old getting into a lunchtime skirmish ain't going to put the crime cartels out of business.

So you never asked a Garda about it? Are you afraid to?

Seathrun66

JohnMc1 wrote: »

You can disappear now

https://itv.ie/kilkenny-parish-priest-pulls-race-card-on-his-parish-claims-jesus-wants-a-mosque-in-his-parish-sinn-fein-agrees/

https://kilkennyjournal.com/2018/07/09/the-mosque-eugene-mcguinness-replies-to-fr-frank-purcell-pp-st-johns-kilkenny-city/

https://kilkennyjournal.com/2018/07/11/kilkenny-parishioners-want-parish-priest-out-talk-of-bottles-of-scotch-in-the-presbytery/

And your accusations against the priest? The ones that you and the local journalist are going to use.

Woodsie1

Seathrun66 wrote: »

And your accusations against the priest? The ones that you and the local journalist are going to use.

Surely if the accusations were public they would hold no power over the priest.

Seathrun66

eagle eye wrote: »

So you never asked a Garda about it? Are you afraid to?

Wasn't aware there was a time limit. Work, child care and sports activities take priority over satisfying your demands.

Wouldn't you prefer that I speak to a Gardai when near Mill St in the next few days rather than fabricate a meeting. Or is lying about acquaintances and occurances more in keeping with the anti-refugees on this thread?

Seathrun66

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Surely if the accusations were public they would hold no power over the priest.

Not according to the poster.

Woodsie1

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Not according to the poster.

Thats a lie,the poster said a journalist had info on the priest.

ToBeFrank123

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Why do the always pick these Right Wing, Racist, Fascist towns to house these people?

Why can't they house them next to all the people who want them. Amazing isn't it. Something so simple, yet seems be impossible to do

That would be leafy liberal areas of Dublin South. But apparently we can't put them there. Some guff about encouraging asylum seekers when we know the real reason is they don't want property values to drop or have beggars accost them outside their favourite café.

Seathrun66

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Thats a lie,the poster said a journalist had info on the priest.

To be clear a poster here made an unsubstantiated accusation about possible crimes or unethical deeds perpetuated by a Kilkenny priest. Irrelevant whether a direct accusation or gossip repeated via an unidentified journalist. Now that he has been identified the poster stands legally liable for a defamation of character action. Boards. Ie can be compelled by the court to identify the poster should the priest take action against individuals in the near future.

Seathrun66

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

That would be leafy liberal areas of Dublin South. But apparently we can't put them there. Some guff about encouraging asylum seekers when we know the real reason is they don't want property values to drop or have beggars accost them outside their favourite café.

So that's where all the cafes are. Knew we were being deprived of good coffee in the rest of the state.

Gatling

So for the one or two posters who want more asylum seekers , economic migrants ,and more DP .

Why .

(Don't give us the famine guff sure didn't we go to America)

The_Kew_Tour

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

That would be leafy liberal areas of Dublin South. But apparently we can't put them there. Some guff about encouraging asylum seekers when we know the real reason is they don't want property values to drop or have beggars accost them outside their favourite café.

Yep, its why most people who say they live next to one are probably talking ****.

"You are all racists for not housing these people,but dont put them near me cause *insert some excuse"

Seathrun66

Gatling wrote: »

So for the one or two posters who want more asylum seekers , economic migrants ,and more DP .

Why .

(Don't give us the famine guff sure didn't we go to America)

Simple answer - to make our state one of many places of refuge for those fleeing persecution.

enricoh

Gatling wrote: »

So for the one or two posters who want more asylum seekers , economic migrants ,and more DP .

Why .

(Don't give us the famine guff sure didn't we go to America)

Their snouts are in the trough! Keep em coming!

Gatling

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Simple answer - to make our state one of many places of refuge

Bit of a cop out considering how many posts you have in this thread,

enricoh

eagle eye wrote: »

Did you ask a garda like you said you were going to? Obviously not because you are still posting here and you've said you would stop posting in this thread if there was a gang in Galway. There is one and you've been given proof as it's in a paper about Goodnews and a gang but that wasn't enough for you so I presented Tom Williams his buddy but that isn't enough for you either so I suggested you ask a Garda and you said you would.



You are still here though posting away so you are a liar. Lying that you would stop posting if it was proven there was a gang, lying that you would talk to a Garda, changing the goalposts whenever it suits you.

A regular member of the liberal nazi organisation obviously.

Why bother, sure there's no black gangs in balbriggan n tyrrelstown either. Its just dreamt up by racists!

4068ac1elhodqr

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Simple answer - to make our state one of many places of refuge for those fleeing persecution.

Problem is it's not as easy as a simple default answer.

The majority claiming they're 'fleeing persecution' or some such, as you may have (very slowly) learned by now - have had their cases rejected, after being considered. Rejected.

Which means seeking economic benefit/refuge (or welfare) is the more likely explanation.
For which, there is no case nor obligation to accept.

Boggles

enricoh wrote: »

Why bother, sure there's no black gangs in balbriggan n tyrrelstown either.

You mean all "types" of youths in a disadvantaged area creating social problems.

enricoh wrote: »

Its just dreamt up by racists!

It's not racist at all to point social problems in a disadvantaged area, it is fairly racist just to point out the colours you don't like though.

Gatling

Boggles wrote: »

You mean all "types" of youths in a disadvantaged area creating social problems.



It's not racist at all to point social problems in a disadvantaged area, it is fairly racist just to point out the colours you don't like though.

Is it's more so that once someone like yourself labels someone as racist is can't be disproved ,so we get posters throwing the term or skirting around the bush trying to be clever by not directly calling someone a racist in an attempt to censor any conversation you don't want being discussed .

Boggles

Gatling wrote: »

Is it's more so that once someone like yourself labels someone as racist is can't be disproved ,so we get posters throwing the term or skirting around the bush trying to be clever by not directly calling someone a racist in an attempt to censor any conversation you don't want being discussed .

Sorry what?

I was quite clear in what I said and how I explained it.

It's not that hard follow TBF.

Gatling

Boggles wrote: »

confused:

Confused about labelling everything you don't like being discussed as racist .

alastair

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

Problem is it's not as easy as a simple default answer.

The majority claiming they're 'fleeing persecution' or some such, as you may have (very slowly) learned by now - have had their cases rejected, after being considered. Rejected.

Which means seeking economic benefit/refuge (or welfare) is the more likely explanation.
For which, there is no case nor obligation to accept.

You get that asylum seekers who don’t have a successful claim are not accepted here? They’re served with deportation orders. So no economic benefit to them whatsoever.

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

You get that asylum seekers who don’t have a successful claim are not accepted here? They’re served with deportation orders.

That doesn't mean they actually get deported ,


We've had a dangerous rapist allowed to stay here

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

That doesn't mean they actually get deported ,


We've had a dangerous rapist allowed to stay here

It does actually.

There are plenty of dangerous rapists in this country, but that’s got nothing to do with the enforcement of ex asylum seeker’s deportation orders.

4068ac1elhodqr

alastair wrote: »

They’re served with deportation orders...

You do get that being 'served' with something is very different from the actual reality of physically getting deported.

e.g. 140 people were deported from the country in 2017, but some 932 deportation orders were made in 2017. Again let's do the (simple) math.
932/140 = 15% effective removal rate.

Sure you'd be scratching your head if you ordered and paid for a full pizza, only to receive a single slice (with a bite taken out) in a cardboard box. You'd likely question the effectiveness of the pizza shop.

alastair

Lawson Ambitious Condo wrote: »

You do get that being 'served' with something is very different from the actual reality of physically getting deported.

e.g. 140 people were deported from the country in 2017, but some 932 deportation orders were made in 2017. Again let's do the (simple) math.
932/140 = 15% effective removal rate.

Sure you'd be scratching your head if you ordered and paid for a full pizza, only to receive a single slice (with a bite taken out) in a cardboard box. You'd likely question the effectiveness of the pizza shop.

Even simpler is the concept of voluntary deportation where enforcement isn’t required. Which is preferable for most people.

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

It does actually.

but that’s got nothing to do with the enforcement of ex asylum seeker’s deportation orders.

Seems you don't actually know how the system works