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Bullocks

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Bullocks wrote: »

Why wouldn't they. Plenty of land owners along there still that might like to sell aswell

As previously posted much of that land is set aside for the Bish school to move there in return for the University getting their land to expand onto Nun's Island.

They also don't need to sell and under no pressure to do so.

Would be happy if they did. A good location for a DPC.

I'd say it will be a long time before the Bish moves out if they ever do .

Gatling

Seathrun66 wrote: »

to make our state one of many places of refuge

Seriously unimpressed -

Ranting and raving about wanting more DP , More economic migrants .

Just so our state is one of many places of refuge ,
Like all the other safe states they have to travel to and through to get here .


Wonder if we can get a refund from trocraire after all these years

Seathrun66

Bullocks wrote: »

I'd say it will be a long time before the Bish moves out if they ever do .

Maybe, but the €200 million NUIG plan for Nun's Island redevelopment is out for public consultation. The Government’s Urban Regeneration and Development Fund has already indicated its support for the project so government and business finance is expected. NUIG want the Bish land and the Bish want NUIG land. Just a matter of time, and sooner rather than later I expect.

Seathrun66

Gatling wrote: »

Seriously unimpressed -

Ranting and raving about wanting more DP , More economic migrants .

Just so our state is one of many places of refuge ,
The other safe states they have to travel to and through to get here .


Wonder if we can get a refund from trocraire after all these years

So you don't want Ireland to be a place of refuge for those fleeing persecution? That's the crux, isn't it? It's a clear yes or no.

Gatling

Seathrun66 wrote: »

So you don't want Ireland to be a place of refuge for those fleeing

Most of the ones coming here no with the exception of Syrians fleeing their own leader butchering them or Isis .


Single young men from Nigeria full of made up stories No or pregnant women just happened to want child benefit and social housing ,or single young men from Pakistan looking for an EU wife

Seathrun66

Gatling wrote: »

Most of the ones coming here no with the exception of Syrians fleeing their own leader butchering them or Isis .


Single young men from Nigeria full of made up stories No or pregnant women just happened to want child benefit and social housing ,or single young men from Pakistan looking for an EU wife

So you don't want Ireland to be a place of refuge for those fleeing persecution? Just give a straight answer and say it.

enricoh

Seathrun66 wrote: »

So you don't want Ireland to be a place of refuge for those fleeing persecution? Just give a straight answer and say it.

Persecution? The only Persecution the majority are fleeing are the incredibly poor social welfare payouts in their home country!

Seathrun66

Can't get an honest answer from the refugee haters here. They're happy to spout bile, untruths, anecdotal nonsense and factually distorted nonsense. All of the above is easily corrected but their cognitive dissonance won't allow them to accept the truth.

They clearly don't want Ireland to be a place of refuge for those fleeing persecution but disguise it in a pseudo-perturbed concern for others or a raising of mythical falsehoods about rampaging criminal foreigners. People denied asylum claims leave voluntarily or get deported. Facts won't convince them so I must ask what is it they expect.

You don't want refugees but we're signed up to the post-WWII 1951 Refugee Convention and the 1967 Protocol. Do you think we're going to renege on them because of a few lies or ill-informed online protests? You think Ireland is going to become a pariah state that won't accept its obligations in the 21st century? You'll be disappointed so please direct your bile elsewhere.

Seathrun66

enricoh wrote: »

Persecution? The only Persecution the majority are fleeing are the incredibly poor social welfare payouts in their home country!

So, still no answer. Thought not. At least have the cojones to say you don't like foreigners rather than feign concern for the plight of some and the demonisation of others. The anger will eat you up but the world will spin along as it continues to do. The hate will endure from some but it's only got limited appeal in what is now one of the most progressive societies in Europe. And we ain't going backwards.

Bullocks

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Bullocks wrote: »

I'd say it will be a long time before the Bish moves out if they ever do .

Maybe, but the €200 million NUIG plan for Nun's Island redevelopment is out for public consultation. The Government’s Urban Regeneration and Development Fund has already indicated its support for the project so government and business finance is expected. NUIG want the Bish land and the Bish want NUIG land. Just a matter of time, and sooner rather than later I expect.

Is that the plan for turning it into an all Irish quarter?

Seathrun66

Bullocks wrote: »

Is that the plan for turning it into an all Irish quarter?

Matter of Public Record. Easily discoverable.

Gatling

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Can't get an honest answer from the refugee haters here.


People denied asylum claims leave voluntarily or get deported. Facts won't convince them so I must ask what is it they expect.

Talking about sensational nonsense .

There is no refugee haters on here no matter what you or the other one claim.

And no the majority who are denied asylum don't get deported or leave voluntary with a wad of cash .

They stay indefinitely

MOC1972

Seathrun66 wrote: »

So you don't want Ireland to be a place of refuge for those fleeing persecution? Just give a straight answer and say it.

What nonsense your baiting
If your desperate for yes or no answers to start trying to wind people up ask people on the street
Also read up on Albanians and people from Georgia rocking up heard about the handy dole and maybe a house.
If you where guinuine you wouldn't be here talking like a trash can.
Particularly if you had any real life experience
God forbid you leave your keyboard and take a walk and see all the people sleeping rough and before you start there not all Irish

Seathrun66

Gatling wrote: »

Talking about sensational nonsense .

There is no refugee haters on here no matter what you or the other one claim.

And no the majority who are denied asylum don't get deported or leave voluntary with a wad of cash .

They stay indefinitely

We' re still awaiting facts on that. C'mon, prove me wrong and provide them.

Seathrun66

MOC1972 wrote: »

What nonsense your baiting
If your desperate for yes or no answers to start trying to wind people up ask people on the street
Also read up on Albanians and people from Georgia rocking up heard about the handy dole and maybe a house.
If you where guinuine you wouldn't be here talking like a trash can.
Particularly if you had any real life experience
God forbid you leave your keyboard and take a walk and see all the people sleeping rough and before you start there not all Irish

We have elections that ask people on the street. So far no party endorsing your opinions is getting anywhere. Nor will they. We don't have the taste for picking on foreigners in a progressive society.

And where can you read of other nationalities getting houses? From a blog by Seamus down the street?

Stick to facts, not made up nonsense.

enricoh

Seathrun66 wrote: »

So, still no answer. Thought not. At least have the cojones to say you don't like foreigners rather than feign concern for the plight of some and the demonisation of others. The anger will eat you up but the world will spin along as it continues to do. The hate will endure from some but it's only got limited appeal in what is now one of the most progressive societies in Europe. And we ain't going backwards.

Sorry to break this to u, but we just cannot afford to hand spoofers a set of house keys n full welfare after a few years of appeals in direct provision.
We are the third most indebted country in the oecd iirc, theres a million people on hospital lists and brexit or worldwide recession in the pipeline.
But hey at least we're progressive!!

Seathrun66

enricoh wrote: »

Sorry to break this to u, but we just cannot afford to hand spoofers a set of house keys n full welfare after a few years of appeals in direct provision.
We are the third most indebted country in the oecd iirc, theres a million people on hospital lists and brexit or worldwide recession in the pipeline.
But hey at least we're progressive!!

No we can't. So we don't. You're getting all the wrong information man.

enricoh

Seathrun66 wrote: »

We have elections that ask people on the street. So far no party endorsing your opinions is getting anywhere. Nor will they. We don't have the taste for picking on foreigners in a progressive society.

And where can you read of other nationalities getting houses? From a blog by Seamus down the street?

Stick to facts, not made up nonsense.

How is the joys of third world migration going down with the voters in Europe? Numerous countries heading to the right after seeing the, eh, benefits of migration.

MOC1972

Seathrun66 wrote: »

We have elections that ask people on the street. So far no party endorsing your opinions is getting anywhere. Nor will they. We don't have the taste for picking on foreigners in a progressive society.

And where can you read on other nationalities getting houses? From a blog by Seamus down the street?

You don't know my opinions
l never said they got houses I said they heard about houses and dole my god the post wasn't that long.
Take your time on this one and don't try put words in my month

Elections are old enough to vote

The party endorsing my opinions are you a mind reader now too or is the problem your always jumping to conclusions

Stick to facts, not made up nonsense.

😂

enricoh

Seathrun66 wrote: »

No we can't. So we don't. You're getting all the wrong information man.

Ah hear, goodnight, no more can be said!
Where do they go after given leave to remain then man? Outer space?
Yeah thats right a house paid for by paddy taxpayer.

Homelander

Seathrun66 wrote: »

We have elections that ask people on the street. So far no party endorsing your opinions is getting anywhere. Nor will they.

I live in Noel Grealish's constituency. He has massive support. You don't have to agree with or like his opinions but to claim otherwise is utterly deluded.

ToBeFrank123

Boggles wrote: »

You mean all "types" of youths in a disadvantaged area creating social problems.



It's not racist at all to point social problems in a disadvantaged area, it is fairly racist just to point out the colours you don't like though.

Is it racist to tell bogus asylum seekers to piss off and stop wasting our time and money?

alastair

enricoh wrote: »

Ah hear, goodnight, no more can be said!
Where do they go after given leave to remain then man? Outer space?
Yeah thats right a house paid for by paddy taxpayer.

Yeaaah. Bollocks. They get housing assistance like anyone else who qualifies, and are in the same boat as anyone else struggling to find affordable accommodation. Last year 11% of people in direct provision were stuck there despite gaining asylum or leave to remain. They just can’t get affordable accommodation.

alastair

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Is it racist to tell bogus asylum seekers to piss off and stop wasting our time and money?

It’s not racist, just remarkably dumb. You’re in no position to know who’s claim is ‘bogus’. That the job of the claims system.

ToBeFrank123

alastair wrote: »

It’s not racist, just remarkably dumb. You’re in no position to know who’s claim is ‘bogus’. That the job of the claims system.

Close to 100% of Albanians and Georgians are bogus. Its needle in a haystack stuff to find a genuine one. We are spending tens of millions to house bogus ones just to find an odd genuine one.

At least you agree that people who despise bogus claimants aren't racist.

alastair

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Close to 100% of Albanians and Georgians are bogus. Its needle in a haystack stuff to find a genuine one. We are spending tens of millions to house bogus ones just to find an odd genuine one.

That’s the responsibility that comes with our legal obligation to process asylum seekers.

Seathrun66

enricoh wrote: »

How is the joys of third world migration going down with the voters in Europe? Numerous countries heading to the right after seeing the, eh, benefits of migration.

Swings and roundabouts. It'll head leftwards again soon as it already has in Spain, Slovakia, Italy and elsewhere. Germany will be interesting, for all the talk about the AfD it's the Greens who are surging.

Be also aware also that the colossal omnishambles that is Brexit has turned the tide against anti-EU rightist parties. And in the Uk itself the next government may well be a progressive coalition.

Seathrun66

enricoh wrote: »

Ah hear, goodnight, no more can be said!
Where do they go after given leave to remain then man? Outer space?
Yeah thats right a house paid for by paddy taxpayer.

But no facts of course. And no stats. Just nonsense.

Seathrun66

Homelander wrote: »

I live in Noel Grealish's constituency. He has massive support. You don't have to agree with or like his opinions but to claim otherwise is utterly deluded.

As do I. He'll have support from some areas but he'll lose votes in Galway City and elsewhere. He came in second last time on the 13th count. Won't be long before we see how he does next time.

revenent

alastair wrote: »

It’s not racist, just remarkably dumb. You’re in no position to know who’s claim is ‘bogus’. That the job of the claims system.

How can you explain how they manage to get to Ireland?, there are no direct flights from most of these countries, they lie to get to the golden ticket that is Ireland and England.
The genuine people can't afford the prices to get here, hence why there are relocation programmes.
If Ireland followed the legalisation as you say in another post we WOULD be better off, the Dublin regulation agreement is not enforced here despite it being the DUBLIN agreement.
The deportation stats are horrendous when you realise how many are coming in on a weekly basis and how many are deemed illegible.
Fair play to the people in the town for standing up and saying it, yet as always they are portrayed badly on the news and the government.