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alastair

Woodsie1 wrote: »

You said they all left?
I asked how do you know?

Because they had deportation orders served on them. Pretty rudimentary stuff.

Woodsie1

alastair wrote: »

Because they had deportation orders served on them. Pretty rudimentary stuff.

Orders doesnt mean they left.
You said they left.
How do you know?

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

Because they had deportation orders served on them

That doesn't they actully left .....

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

I believe It was was reported several years back in the media that the number of people outside of DP was 2/3 higher working in the black economy ,
So we could have anything between 10-15,000 living and working here illegally .

But we deported 1800 out 9000 + since 2011 keep up the good work lads let me guest they can't find the other 7000+ supposed to be deported over an 8 year period

Because they’re not here, despite what you ‘believe was reported several years ago’.

Seathrun66

Gatling wrote: »

It's amazing how several pro asylum seekers posting on here have a thing for attacking posters who don't agree with them ,
Yet they use the word ,hate and racism despite no one making racist comments or hate speech.

Repeated across multiple threads

Your thin-skinned sensitivity is endearing.

Now please be gracious enough to share it with the refugees you so dislike.

Roger Hassenforder

Gatling wrote: »

9,197 deportation orders since 2011 and 8 years later 1800 give or take were deported .

alastair wrote: »

9,197 have left, on foot of deportation orders. 1800 of them had to have their deportation orders enforced. This isn’t a tricky concept.

Thats an unambiguous statement, surely evidence of same would take wind from the sails of those decrying the deportation process?

Minister Flanagan seems confident, despite being privy to less information than you: “As exit checks from the State are not in use, it is not possible to indicate with any degree of precision the numbers who may be in this category (voluntary leaving the country) but all the available evidence suggests that the number is likely to be considerable.”

Woodsie1

alastair wrote: »

9,197 have left,on foot of deportation orders. 1800 of them had to have their deportation orders enforced. This isn’t a tricky concept.

In case you forget.

How do you know they actually left?

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

That doesn't they actully left .....

They would have had deportation enforced if they didn’t.

Seathrun66

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

I presume a lot will do what lots of Irish do in the States. Get a cash job and stay off the radar.

And all these mythical failed asylum seekers have managed to stay off the radar? ALL of them? Impressive skill sets they've got.

Woodsie1

alastair wrote: »

They would have had deportation enforced if they didn’t.

You said 1800 were enforced.
What about the rest you said left?

alastair

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Thats an unambiguous statement, surely evidence of same would take wind from the sails of those decrying the deportation process?

Minister Flanagan seems confident, despite being privy to less information than you: “As exit checks from the State are not in use, it is not possible to indicate with any degree of precision the numbers who may be in this category (voluntary leaving the country) but all the available evidence suggests that the number is likely to be considerable.”

They’re not here, so they obviously left.

alastair

Woodsie1 wrote: »

You said 1800 were enforced.
What about the rest you said left?

Feel free to refer to my previous posts. I was pretty clear on what happens, Cheers.

Woodsie1

alastair wrote: »

They’re not here, so they obviously left.

Again...How do you know they are not here?

Seathrun66

Gatling wrote: »

It's written all over your posts .


Hence why I said it .


Again it's a small minority who want to dictate who and what people can discuss and if several people don't like it's racism ,its a hatred of refugees ,it's this or that ,

When in fact it's censorship

What it is from you is prissiness at being challenged for spouting nonsense with no factual, empirical or statistical basis whatsoever. Gut-feeling, anecdotes and rumour just don't cut it.

Woodsie1

alastair wrote: »

Feel free to refer to my previous posts. I was pretty clear on what happens, Cheers.

No your not.
You havent shown how you know all failed applicants have left the country after getting deportation orders.

Seathrun66

Gatling wrote: »

I believe It was was reported several years back in the media that the number of people outside of DP was 2/3 higher working in the black economy ,
So we could have anything between 10-15,000 living and working here illegally .

But we deported 1800 out 9000 + since 2011 keep up the good work lads let me guest they can't find the other 7000+ supposed to be deported over an 8 year period

So, random false memory then? Or a chat with Dean in the pub? Back it up with facts and we'll listen.

Woodsie1

Seathrun66 wrote: »

So, random false memory then? Or a chat with Dean in the pub? Back it up with facts and we'll listen.

Ask alastair how he knows 7k of failed asylum seekers have left the country.

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

They’re not here,

Says you...



No one else by the sounds of it ,

Seathrun66

Woodsie1 wrote: »

No your not.
You havent shown how you know all failed applicants have left the country after getting deportation orders.

Any examples of those remaining? Any at all? Thought not. So stop digging.

Gatling

Seathrun66 wrote: »

So

Keep making claims of hatred love .


It won't bother me one bit ,

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

Says you...



No one else by the sounds of it ,

Any evidence to suggest otherwise?

Gatling

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Any examples of those remaining

Any proof of the 9197 actually leaving .


No .

Seathrun66

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Ask alastair how he knows 7k of failed asylum seekers have left the country.

Nope. If you're introducing random facts then back them up with sources. If unable to then retract them.

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

Any evidence to

Back up your claim that 9197 actually left ,

Now this is your claim

Woodsie1

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Any examples of those remaining? Any at all? Thought not. So stop digging.

I havent made any claims,Ive nothing to prove.
Its your alter ego alastair who is claiming stuff,im asking how he knows?

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

Any proof of the 9197 actually leaving .


No .

Their absence.

alastair

Woodsie1 wrote: »

I havent made any claims,Ive nothing to prove.
Its your alter ego alastair who is claiming stuff,im asking how he knows?

You’ve been repeatedly told.

Woodsie1

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Nope. If you're introducing random facts then back them up with sources. If unable to then retract them.

Im going off alastairs posts,read back and stop jumping in head first youll hurt yourself

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

Their absence.

Absence from where .


You claims they left now your saying because there absence from........

Woodsie1

alastair wrote: »

You’ve been repeatedly told.

No I havent.
You saying they are not here is not proof.
Just admit you are bullsh1tting