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Boggles

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I don't think anyone has an issue with genuine people arriving from UN sourced and vetted refugees.

You'd be wrong.

There is people out there with lots of issues, some have contributed to this thread.

Roger Hassenforder

Boggles wrote: »

You'd be wrong.

There is people out there with lots of issues, some have contributed to this thread.

Who?

section4

mcko wrote: »

How many are in Dublin 4.

None but there are plenty of advocates there for them,
But don't try to build either a DP centre or High density development
Beside Lord kenny or Denise charlton, firmer ceo of the immigrant council of Ireland , they have some form in objecting to high density developments

section4

Seathrun66 wrote: »

You've been provided with the information. Repeated answers by myself and another poster to the same question repeated ad nauseam have triggered you. You've got the evidence, you've got the information but you just can't process that you've been lied to by the anti-refugee crew. Hopefully it'll sink in someday but I fear not.

And here's some more stuff on the myths of asylum. Adieu.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/noel-grealish-s-views-of-asylum-seekers-are-based-on-myth-1.4021295

The Irish times article written by a vested interest
You are some fool you ,
Can you tell me your experience of the world
Where have you lived abroad and for how long ,
Were you brought up in an immigrant community
What job fo you do in Ireland
Are you a member if a political party ,
Because reading your posts for the Last half hour
You are either a sixteen year old child watching musuc videos
Which informs your opinion
Or Or working for an NGO

Boggles

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Who?

There was one particular forward thinker who said we should stop all immigration from everywhere.

Couple on here promote a "party" led by a neo nazi wannabe.

It's not hard spot them.

Boggles

section4 wrote: »

The Irish times article written by a vested interest
You are some fool you ,
Can you tell me your experience of the world
Where have you lived abroad and for how long ,
Were you brought up in an immigrant community
What job fo you do in Ireland
Are you a member if a political party ,
Because reading your posts for the Last half hour
You are either a sixteen year old child watching musuc videos
Which informs your opinion
Or Or working for an NGO

Is that a poem?

I read it as a poem.

alastair

PostWoke wrote: »

In what universe does this constitute 'proof'. It's not even original foolishness, you got it from someone else. Provide links proving these 7000+ deportees were actually deported or stop.

Well, just stop. Because no such thing happened. Because we have the sham that is Right to Remain in this country, where you can just kind of potter around even if you've been denied the formal right to be here.

Any asylum seeker issued with a deportation order has no right to remain - that stage in the process has passed by, and they were granted no right to remain. The formal requirement to leave the country is not voluntary. If you don’t leave, the order is enforced. No failed asylum seeker subject to deportation gets to stay in the country.

PostWoke

alastair wrote: »

Any asylum seeker issued with a deportation order has no right to remain - that stage in the process has passed by, and they were granted no right to remain. The formal requirement to leave the country is not voluntary. If you don’t leave, the order is enforced. No failed asylum seeker subject to deportation gets to stay in the country.

There's all kinds of ways around this, which I trust you know...

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

No failed asylum seeker subject to deportation gets to stay in the country.

In your unqualified opinion.


Not that you seem to actually know alot about the asylum seekers and failed asylum seekers here

alastair

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

To be honest, if i gave as much time as alastair and Seathrun spoofing, before the gig was up, i'd try and skulk off into the night.

Maybe wait a few days and come back when the fuss has died down, hope people forgot me making a fool of myself.

Or, the nuclear option, deleting my account and starting a new one.

Im embarassed for the pair of them.

I’ll treat your opinions with all the regard they deserve. Cheers.

alastair

CollyFlower wrote: »

Former Justice Minister Michael McDowell told us over 15 years ago that "cock-and-bull" / "far-fetched nonsense" were being given by people seeking asylum in Ireland

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"He said the patience of Irish people would be very much tested if they knew the stories being told by people looking for asylum. He said he would like to interview asylum seekers at the airport. "I would like to interview these people at the airport, but the UN insists that I go through due procedure. As soon as we go through due process and the gardai arrive, they lift the phone and call a lawyer, who gets them a judicial review to get them taken off the plane," the minister said. He criticised the large amount of "manifestly bogus" political correctness in Ireland. "There's a lot of political correctness that goes on here and it is manifestly bogus, far-fetched nonsense and it's about time we said it"

And he should know.

That whole nuisance of due process.

alastair

section4 wrote: »

None but there are plenty of advocates there for them,
But don't try to build either a DP centre or High density development
Beside Lord kenny or Denise charlton, firmer ceo of the immigrant council of Ireland , they have some form in objecting to high density developments

There are currently asylum seekers in the Ballsbridge Hotel. D4.

alastair

Boggles wrote: »

Is that a poem?

I read it as a poem.

Outside poetry. The best way to engage with it.

PostWoke

alastair wrote: »

That whole nuisance of due process.

What you on about, you're either coming from a wartorn/famine experiencing locale or not. You got papers to prove that? All the due process required. How did you come to this conclusion that his country is some kind of waiting room?

alastair wrote: »

There are currently asylum seekers in the Ballsbridge Hotel. D4.

And in your interesting world view better them than the hundreds of Irish hidden homeless who only became homeless because their landlord screwed them?

alastair

PostWoke wrote: »

There's all kinds of ways around this, which I trust you know...

There’s not. I know.

alastair

PostWoke wrote: »

What you on about, you're either coming from a wartorn/famine experiencing locale or not. You got papers to prove that? All the due process required. How did you come to this conclusion that his country is some kind of waiting room?

Asylum relates to persecution, not war or famine.

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

There’s not. I know.

No you don't this was proven between you and the one who's making up some amazing tales.

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

In your unqualified opinion.


Not that you seem to actually know alot about the asylum seekers and failed asylum seekers here

I know you’ve yet to produce any evidence for your bizarre belief that deported asylum seekers remain in this country. Put up, or shut up.

PostWoke

alastair wrote: »

There’s not. I know.

Yes there is. They can cancel their asylum application altogether.

You are wrong, and you don't know.

alastair wrote: »

Asylum relates to persecution, not war or famine.

And many are arguing that's not how it should be, welcome to finally understanding the conversation.

alastair wrote: »

I know you’ve yet to produce any evidence for your bizarre belief that deported asylum seekers remain in this country. Put up, or shut up.

You can't even prove the opposite. Why don't you try that for us.

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

No you don't this was proven between you and the one who's making up some amazing tales.

All you’ve proven is your ability to bore.

alastair

PostWoke wrote: »

Yes there is. They can cancel their asylum application altogether.

You are wrong, and you don't know.

They can, at which point they will be repatriated, with no right to remain.

alastair

PostWoke wrote: »

And many are arguing that's not how it should be, welcome to finally understanding the conversation.

That’s how it is. It’s the law. Converse away.

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

I know i’ve yet to produce any evidence

Fixed that .

No you haven't produced a single piece of evidence for several days backing up your claim despite multiple posters asking you and the other one

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

Fixed that .

No you haven't produced a single piece of evidence for several days backing up your claim despite multiple posters asking you and the other one

Rinse and repeat. Let me know when you can point out those elusive deported asylum seekers. Until then - I’m done with your blather. Bye!

alastair

PostWoke wrote: »

You can't even prove the opposite. Why don't you try that for us.

You want proof of an absence? Well there you go - nada evidence of any deported asylum seekers.

You want the same for dinosaurs?

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

Let me know when

When you can back up your claims


I'll be happy to remind you several times a day till I see some actual evidence of your claims

enricoh

Gatling wrote: »

Fixed that .

No you haven't produced a single piece of evidence for several days backing up your claim despite multiple posters asking you and the other one

They get told they are unsuccessful and are to be deported and they all leave voluntarily apparently!
Maybe a 5 year old would believe it, i dunno!

Gatling

enricoh wrote: »

They get told they are unsuccessful and are to be deported and they all leave voluntarily apparently!
Maybe a 5 year old would believe it, i dunno!

This is it ,

Now we're seeing some nonsense about the dinosaur's.

alastair

enricoh wrote: »

They get told they are unsuccessful and are to be deported and they all leave voluntarily apparently!
Maybe a 5 year old would believe it, i dunno!

There’s nothing voluntary about it. It’s a legal order. I’d expect a five year old to understand that much. 😂

Roger Hassenforder

Boggles wrote: »

There was one particular forward thinker who said we should stop all immigration from everywhere.

Couple on here promote a "party" led by a neo nazi wannabe.

It's not hard spot them.

But who in this thread has said they dont want any immigrants allowed into Ireland?