oughterard people - see OP for Mod warning 29/09/19

Boggles · 29-09-2019 2:46pm

Gatling wrote: »

His quote-

Not surprised your confused .

"The cost of asylum provision to the state is about twice what it spends on horse and greyhound racing subsidies annually."

So where does he say the state spend more on the greyhound industry?

Gatling · 29-09-2019 2:48pm

Just to clear someone's claim about government spending for horse racing and greyhound.

The figure for subvention is between 60 -80 million for an industry that employes 15,000 people in brings in about 1.8 billion to the economy.

The Cost of housing asylum seekers is 250 + million per year for 5000 asylum seekers in DP not including welfare , medical ,and not including 30 - 60 million in free legal aid.

For a grand return of ???

Boggles · 29-09-2019 2:58pm

Gatling wrote: »

The Cost of housing asylum seekers is 250 + million per year for 5000 asylum seekers in DP

Link please?

Gatling · 29-09-2019 3:03pm

Boggles wrote: »

Link please?

Google is your friend

alastair · 29-09-2019 3:04pm

Expenditure
In 2018 expenditure on Direct Provision reached €78 million, which was at its highest level since 2010. Provisional figures provided by RIA indicate that this could exceed €120 million in 2019 based on most recent trends.

http://justice.ie/en/JELR/Spending_Review.pdf/Files/Spending_Review.pdf

alastair · 29-09-2019 3:05pm

Boggles wrote: »

Link please?

You won’t be surprised to discover that there isn’t one. Actual costings above.

Boggles · 29-09-2019 3:05pm

Gatling wrote: »

Google is your friend

No it isn't it's a search engine.

Make a claim, back it up lad.

Patthecat84 · 29-09-2019 3:06pm

I think they should go ahead with the direct provision centre in oughterard and bring in a good volume of people. It's a sleepy area and it will bring a bit of life to the community. It can set itself as an example (for the future) of a community with direct provision at its heart. It can become the leading area for direct provision

Gatling · 29-09-2019 3:08pm

Boggles wrote: »

No it isn't it's a search engine.

It's your friend,

Beats the other ones fairy tales

Gatling · 29-09-2019 3:09pm

Patthecat84 wrote: »

I think they should go ahead with the

Is that you al

Boggles · 29-09-2019 3:10pm

Gatling wrote: »

It's your friend,

Beats the other ones fairy tales

Grow up and stop spoofing lad.

WB Yokes · 29-09-2019 3:14pm

"Direct provision at the heart of a community"

Someone ring Dundrum, we have an escapee...

Patthecat84 · 29-09-2019 3:30pm

Oughterard has been crying out for new people to come into the town for ages. Ship them into direct provision there by the dozen and solve 2 problems at once. Simples

Bullocks · 29-09-2019 3:48pm

Patthecat84 wrote: »

Oughterard has been crying out for new people to come into the town for ages. Ship them into direct provision there by the dozen and solve 2 problems at once. Simples

When or where were they crying out for people to come into the town ?
If that were the case (which it isn't ) why are they protesting now ?

Faugheen · 29-09-2019 3:58pm

Gatling wrote: »

It's your friend,

Beats the other ones fairy tales

You made the claim, you back it up.

No surprise that when there’s a thread about fordiners you’re in here lying as per usual, and telling us to google stuff instead of backing up your lies.

Boggles · 29-09-2019 4:00pm

Bullocks wrote: »

When or where were they crying out for people to come into the town ?
If that were the case (which it isn't ) why are they protesting now ?

YES TO REFUGEES, NO TO DIRECT PROVISION.

That's what's on the banners.

Patthecat84 · 29-09-2019 4:08pm

Ask anyone in oughterard and they ll tell you they have been hard hit by emigration. Direct provision centre a blessing really. Local football teams been struggling etc. They ll be back winning games with all the new additions to the teams

WB Yokes · 29-09-2019 4:10pm

I'd say the hotel owner is fairly pissed at all the attention this has got. The longer this goes on the less money he makes. Maybe it will be scrapped like the Rooskey dpc was.

PostWoke · 29-09-2019 4:46pm

Patthecat84 wrote: »

Oughterard has been crying out for new people to come into the town for ages.

Ah yeah sure I heard their sorrowful cries from Dublin!

SchrodingersCat · 29-09-2019 4:47pm

Gatling wrote: »

The Cost of housing asylum seekers is 250 + million per year for 5000 asylum seekers in DP not including welfare

You need to source both those figures of your claim to have a valid debate here.

Bullocks · 29-09-2019 4:52pm

Patthecat84 wrote: »

Ask anyone in oughterard and they ll tell you they have been hard hit by emigration. Direct provision centre a blessing really. Local football teams been struggling etc. They ll be back winning games with all the new additions to the teams

I've been speaking to people on Oughterard, and what you are claiming couldn't be further from the truth

Bullocks · 29-09-2019 4:53pm

Boggles wrote: »

Bullocks wrote: »

When or where were they crying out for people to come into the town ?
If that were the case (which it isn't ) why are they protesting now ?

YES TO REFUGEES, NO TO DIRECT PROVISION.

That's what's on the banners.

That's what I thought they said.

Bullocks · 29-09-2019 4:57pm

WB Yokes wrote: »

I'd say the hotel owner is fairly pissed at all the attention this has got. The longer this goes on the less money he makes. Maybe it will be scrapped like the Rooskey dpc was.

I wonder will it be scrapped? If it is I wonder at what stage?
I've been told all along that it will be going ahead regardless of protests but I don't think these protests were expected to grow momentum like they did and they are obviously stopping all site works so maybe it will all be given up on.

Gatling · 29-09-2019 5:27pm

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

You need to source both those figures of your claim to have a valid debate here.

I'm doing what several others have openly done la la la la

Gatling · 29-09-2019 5:28pm

Bullocks wrote: »

I wonder will it be scrapped? If it is I wonder at what stage?
I've been told all along that it will be going ahead regardless of protests but I don't think these protests were expected to grow momentum like they did and they are obviously stopping all site works so maybe it will all be given up on.

They might kick it down the road to another town or village which could bring locals out to block attempts to open a dpc

handlemaster · 29-09-2019 5:40pm

Gatling wrote: »

They might kick it down the road to another town or village which could bring locals out to block attempts to open a dpc

Yep will be that same narrow minded response

Gatling · 29-09-2019 5:47pm

handlemaster wrote: »

Yep will be that same narrow minded response

Why would it be a narrow minded response.

We all should have a choice,we should be given a say on how many asylum seekers we take in and where to keep them till a decision is made if they are genuine fleeing persecution or looking for free lifetime of benefits

Faugheen · 29-09-2019 5:51pm

Gatling wrote: »

handlemaster wrote: »

Yep will be that same narrow minded response

Why would it be a narrow minded response.

We all should have a choice,we should be given a say on how many asylum seekers we take in and where to keep them till a decision is made if they are genuine fleeing persecution or looking for free lifetime of benefits

Still waiting for you to back up your earlier lies about spending there pal.

Until you do, you have absolutely no credibility.

Gatling · 29-09-2019 5:52pm

Faugheen wrote: »

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eagle eye · 29-09-2019 5:59pm

Boggles wrote:

No it isn't it's a search engine.
Make a claim, back it up lad.

This is bull. I'm on here years and you get the same types demanding links when they are obviously on the internet and can search for themselves.
If you are too busy to go search something then maybe you are too busy to be on here looking for links from somebody else.

oughterard people - see OP for Mod warning 29/09/19

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