Does anyone actually believe that Gerry Adams wasn't in the IRA?

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

maccored wrote: »

jaysus do you ever stop? You can walk from leitrim to derrylin in a couple of steps. you must be a giant, but good for you

Can he/she do it with that shovel he/she is carrying though?

I thought your idols were the experts in carrying shovels around the border.

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think he is a woeful journalist and full of bs but he knows Leitrim and Fermanagh are beside each other.

From where he lived, he would have to go through Cavan to get to Derrylin.

Beside him, sure it is SS!! :D

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think he is a woeful journalist and full of bs but he knows Leitrim and Fermanagh are beside each other.

From where he lived, he would have to go through Cavan to get to Derrylin.

Beside him, sure it is SS!! :D

To drive from north Leitrim to south Leitrim you have to go through Roscommon. Does that mean north Leitrim is not beside south Leitrim?

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Now that you mention it the local bookshop is over a hundred miles away :-)

That figures alright!

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

To drive from north Leitrim to south Leitrim you have to go through Roscommon. Does that mean north Leitrim is not beside south Leitrim?

Put the shovel down SS. Seriously. :D

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What is it you are trying to say Mark? That nobody has ever been beaten up or viciously killed anywhere else in Ireland...not to mention elsewhere?

You did read a fairytale! :rolleyes:

Internet hardman with a propensity to rake up a serious amount of inane banal posts on nothing.

I suppose in your neck of the woods torture is pittance when it comes to violence, especially when you refused yourself to condemn atrocities like Kingsmill and Warrington.

But it will be Poppy season soon. Your annual bugbear will see you rake up another impressive post count, where you feel your own rights are being violated for the sheer crime of seeing someone wear a Poppy.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

Internet hardman with a propensity to rake up a serious amount of inane banal posts on nothing.

What is an internet hardman?

I suppose in your neck of the woods torture is pittance when it comes to violence, especially when you refused yourself to condemn atrocities like Kingsmill and Warrington.

The lies begin...check!

But it will be Poppy season soon. Your annual bugbear will see you rake up another impressive post count, where you feel your own rights are being violated for the sheer crime of seeing someone wear a Poppy.

Someone on the internet objects to another having a different opinion to him.

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

To drive from north Leitrim to south Leitrim you have to go through Roscommon. Does that mean north Leitrim is not beside south Leitrim?

Put the shovel down SS. Seriously. :D

I presume your “local” paper is the Anglo celt. Do you think that might be the “local” paper for someone 20 miles away too?

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Internet hardman with a propensity to rake up a serious amount of inane banal posts on nothing.

I suppose in your neck of the woods torture is pittance when it comes to violence, especially when you refused yourself to condemn atrocities like Kingsmill and Warrington.

But it will be Poppy season soon. Your annual bugbear will see you rake up another impressive post count, where you feel your own rights are being violated for the sheer crime of seeing someone wear a Poppy.

In my neighbourhood and stories I've heard the Garda were the ones giving out beatings. Seen it myself as a kid. Do I think every Garda is at it? Not as much as they use to. Was common place one time.
Thugs exist. Trying to make them all SF is fine and dandy if it floats your boat.
The Poppy thing celebrates those fooled into killing and being killed. I always say the ceremonies should only consist of politicians and royalty apologising for sending people off to kill or be killed.
Anyway, another Troubles thread gone full circle. Should really be moved to history forum IMO.

James Brown

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I presume your “local” paper is the Anglo celt. Do you think that might be the “local” paper for someone 20 miles away too?

Do you even remember what point you're trying to score at this stage?
Geography burns now is it?

SafeSurfer

Matt Barrett wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I presume your “local” paper is the Anglo celt. Do you think that might be the “local” paper for someone 20 miles away too?

Do you even remember what point you're trying to score at this stage?
Geography burns now is it?

I do. Demonstrating the nonsense of this post:

“isn't that the lad who claims to be from the west of ireland, then claims to be 'local' to fermanagh etc etc - and he's really from Leitrim ....”

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Someone on the internet objects to another having a different opinion to him.

Oh, you are free to have whatever opinion you want, even if that opinion is depraved, caveman-like and amounts to an amoeba. You will be called out on those depraved opinions from time to time, alas.

I guess scoring internet points and lol's is more important than your condemnation of what happened on Tuesday night. It thoroughly shows what type of human being you are.

Fionn1952

SafeSurfer wrote: »

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

To drive from north Leitrim to south Leitrim you have to go through Roscommon. Does that mean north Leitrim is not beside south Leitrim?

Put the shovel down SS. Seriously. :D

I presume your “local” paper is the Anglo celt. Do you think that might be the “local” paper for someone 20 miles away too?

Just for a bit of, 'feet on the ground', growing up in Enniskillen, the majority certainly wouldn't consider Leitrim local. Fully aware that the more rural one is, the further the spread of what's considered local grows, but it IS a fair aul stretch to call Derrylin local to Leitrim.

Still not sure what this has to do with Gerry in the RA, but it's more interesting than us all repeating the same arguments that were made 35 years ago.

James Brown

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I do. Demonstrating the nonsense of this post:

“isn't that the lad who claims to be from the west of ireland, then claims to be 'local' to fermanagh etc etc - and he's really from Leitrim ....”

So this proves Gerry was in the 'RA?

SafeSurfer

Matt Barrett wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I do. Demonstrating the nonsense of this post:

“isn't that the lad who claims to be from the west of ireland, then claims to be 'local' to fermanagh etc etc - and he's really from Leitrim ....”

So this proves Gerry was in the 'RA?

No. Not that I ever said it did. But claiming Fermanagh and Leitrim is not nearby is about as credible as claiming Gerry was never in the IRA.

Sinbad_NI

Current Spotlight series on BBC Ni should answer the original question for anyone who's still completely delusional.

Episode 2 should do the trick.

blanch152

Matt Barrett wrote: »

In my neighbourhood and stories I've heard the Garda were the ones giving out beatings. Seen it myself as a kid. Do I think every Garda is at it? Not as much as they use to. Was common place one time.
Thugs exist. Trying to make them all SF is fine and dandy if it floats your boat.
The Poppy thing celebrates those fooled into killing and being killed. I always say the ceremonies should only consist of politicians and royalty apologising for sending people off to kill or be killed.
Anyway, another Troubles thread gone full circle. Should really be moved to history forum IMO.

So this proves Gerry wasn't in the RA?

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I presume your “local” paper is the Anglo celt. Do you think that might be the “local” paper for someone 20 miles away too?

'Local' knowledge is not your thing is it SS?

The 'Northern Standard' would be the local paper here, followed by the Fermanagh Herald, followed way down in circulation would be the Anglo Celt.

Close...but like Mr Williams...not close enough! :cool:

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

Oh, you are free to have whatever opinion you want, even if that opinion is depraved, caveman-like and amounts to an amoeba. You will be called out on those depraved opinions from time to time, alas.

I guess scoring internet points and lol's is more important than your condemnation of what happened on Tuesday night. It thoroughly shows what type of human being you are.

:D:D Mark, all you need to do on a discussion forum is to discuss. Nobody bites if you don't agree with them.

Try and calm down there.

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

No. Not that I ever said it did. But claiming Fermanagh and Leitrim is not nearby is about as credible as claiming Gerry was never in the IRA.

Ah shift the goalposts now is it?

Williams was called out for his usual roundabout way of inferring he had 'local' knowledge, so that when he makes claims about 'paramilitaries', gullible eejits will be suckered into to believing that a crime was conducted by a paramilitary organisation.

An 'ex-paramilitary' is just that, somebody who doesn't belong to any group.
So unless there is evidence to the contrary, all we know is that this was a crime like any other crime.
Crime which happens all over the world, and isn't unique to Cavan Monaghan or Leitrim.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

So this proves Gerry wasn't in the RA?

This does? The gentleman poster was bringing up topics from the troubles and poppies. Not that you'd ever raise anything historical or comical

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I presume your “local” paper is the Anglo celt. Do you think that might be the “local” paper for someone 20 miles away too?

'Local' knowledge is not your thing is it SS?

The 'Northern Standard' would be the local paper here, followed by the Fermanagh Herald, followed way down in circulation would be the Anglo Celt.

Close...but like Mr Williams...not close enough! :cool:

So your “local” paper is the Northern Standard. A paper which claims it “covers Counties Monaghan, Cavan, Louth, Armagh, Fermanagh and Tyrone.”

That’s a pretty wide definition of “local”.

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So your “local” paper is the Northern Standard. A paper which claims it “covers Counties Monaghan, Cavan, Louth, Armagh, Fermanagh and Tyrone.”

That’s a pretty wide definition of “local”.

This is a bit like Fr Ted. Small/Far Away. Pay attention here now SS...

It is 'local' in that context because the newspaper goes to those areas. The wee man puts a bundle in his wee van and drives to different towns and counties and delivers them to wee shops where the wee woman reads about the special bit inserted about her wee town or village.

The person reading it in my town is not 'local' to the person reading it up in Tyrone though.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:D:D Mark, all you need to do on a discussion forum is to discuss. Nobody bites if you don't agree with them.

Try and calm down there.

As I said, Internet hardman.

FrancieBrady

markodaly wrote: »

As I said, Internet hardman.

Is that when you call someone 'depraved, caveman-like and amounts to an amoeba'.

Sounds well 'hard' to me!

Fionn1952

markodaly wrote: »

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:D:D Mark, all you need to do on a discussion forum is to discuss. Nobody bites if you don't agree with them.

Try and calm down there.

As I said, Internet hardman.

This is ridiculously low quality. What happened to playing the ball, not the man?

As usual, these threads just devolve into Francie posting a million times and a bunch of people ignoring said posts and personally insulting him.

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So your “local” paper is the Northern Standard. A paper which claims it “covers Counties Monaghan, Cavan, Louth, Armagh, Fermanagh and Tyrone.”

That’s a pretty wide definition of “local”.

This is a bit like Fr Ted. Small/Far Away. Pay attention here now SS...

It is 'local' in that context because the newspaper goes to those areas. The wee man puts a bundle in his wee van and drives to different towns and counties and delivers them to wee shops where the wee woman reads about the special bit inserted about her wee town or village.

The person reading it in my town is not 'local' to the person reading it up in Tyrone though.

And do the wee local journalists cover the whole wee local area or just the wee town they live in?

FrancieBrady

Fionn1952 wrote: »

This is ridiculously low quality. What happened to playing the ball, not the man?

As usual, these threads just devolve into Francie posting a million times and a bunch of people ignoring said posts and personally insulting him.

I challenged Mark on his adamant assertion about who was responsible here and he decided to attack me rather than back up what he so strenuously claimed.

Bizarre tbh.

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

And do the wee local journalists cover the whole wee local area or just the wee town they live in?

No SS, a reporter would have their 'areas' typically. With local amateur correspondents. A lot of the content of local papers is written on a voluntary basis by Club PRO's, press officers for local organisations etc. and it is all pulled together by a small staff.

Odhinn

The thread thus far


1 - Gerry was never in the Sumo


2 - Some places are nearer other places than some other places


3 - Local papers for local people

James Brown

Odhinn wrote: »

The thread thus far


1 - Gerry was never in the Sumo


2 - Some places are nearer other places than some other places


3 - Local papers for local people

SafeSurfer

Quote from article in today’s Sunday Independent writing about the immediate aftermath of Kevin Lunneys abduction.

“Almost simultaneously in the neighbouring county of Leitrim, John Mc Cartin, a non-executive director of QIH, was at home with his wife and children when he received an unexpected visit from a Garda. He said, I was just sent to see if you were ok.I said. Why would that be? Is everything alright? He said. Not really. Kevin Lunneys car is on fire and he’s missing.”

maccored

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Quote from article in today’s Sunday Independent writing about the immediate aftermath of Kevin Lunneys abduction.

“Almost simultaneously in the neighbouring county of Leitrim, John Mc Cartin, a non-executive director of QIH, was at home with his wife and children when he received an unexpected visit from a Garda. He said, I was just sent to see if you were ok.I said. Why would that be? Is everything alright? He said. Not really. Kevin Lunneys car is on fire and he’s missing.”

you might be in the wrong thread there

SafeSurfer

maccored wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Quote from article in today’s Sunday Independent writing about the immediate aftermath of Kevin Lunneys abduction.

“Almost simultaneously in the neighbouring county of Leitrim, John Mc Cartin, a non-executive director of QIH, was at home with his wife and children when he received an unexpected visit from a Garda. He said, I was just sent to see if you were ok.I said. Why would that be? Is everything alright? He said. Not really. Kevin Lunneys car is on fire and he’s missing.”

you might be in the wrong thread there

You will understand if I don’t ask you for directions.

maccored

SafeSurfer wrote: »

You will understand if I don’t ask you for directions.

if anyone's lost, it looks like its you. have you any idea what the threads about? Perhaps you should stick to the topic?

SafeSurfer

maccored wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

You will understand if I don’t ask you for directions.

if anyone's lost, it looks like its you. have you any idea what the threads about? Perhaps you should stick to the topic?

I think you will find that you are the one who introduced the tangent to the thread.

FrancieBrady

Gardai say the Lunney kidnapping is not paramilitary but criminal, according to RTE's Paul Reynolds, who isn't 'local' as far as I know, but I could be wrong.

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Gardai say the Lunney kidnapping is not paramilitary but criminal, according to RTE's Paul Reynolds, who isn't 'local' as far as I know, but I could be wrong.

I wouldn’t put much stock in their opinion Francie. Sure they think Gerry was in the IRA.

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I wouldn’t put much stock in their opinion Francie. Sure they think Gerry was in the IRA.

The Gardai?

Why didn't they arrest him so? Or were they guessing with no evidence too, like us all. Or maybe, like most of us, they just didn't care.

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I wouldn’t put much stock in their opinion Francie. Sure they think Gerry was in the IRA.

The Gardai?

Why didn't they arrest him so? Or were they guessing with no evidence too, like us all. Or maybe, like most of us, they just didn't care.

For someone who doesn’t care you sure do spend a lot of time on the subject.

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

For someone who doesn’t care you sure do spend a lot of time on the subject.

Well I did hold out the rather forlorn hope that somebody could tell us why it matters a jot if he was or wasn't.

maccored

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think you will find that you are the one who introduced the tangent to the thread.

enough of that malarkey. You've been the one posting about it constantly for some unknown reason.

Im with Francie on this - I couldnt give a monkeys if adams was in the IRA or not.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Gardai say the Lunney kidnapping is not paramilitary but criminal, according to RTE's Paul Reynolds, who isn't 'local' as far as I know, but I could be wrong.

Strange

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0922/1077508-kevin-lunney/


"Gardaí believe an organised crime gang with links to dissident republicans was involved in the abduction of Mr Lunney."

Grasping at straws again, Francie?

Will you be producing the quote again in a year's time?

"Paul Reynolds said one time that the Gardai once said that it was not paramilitary but criminal."

Timberrrrrrrr

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Gardai say the Lunney kidnapping is not paramilitary but criminal, according to RTE's Paul Reynolds, who isn't 'local' as far as I know, but I could be wrong.

No difference imo.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Strange

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0922/1077508-kevin-lunney/


"Gardaí believe an organised crime gang with links to dissident republicans was involved in the abduction of Mr Lunney."

Grasping at straws again, Francie?

Will you be producing the quote again in a year's time?

"Paul Reynolds said one time that the Gardai once said that it was not paramilitary but criminal."

I think it is you who is clutching to be honest blanch.

'Links to dissidents'?

I'm sure the people who did this would have many 'links'.

Was it the work of a paramilitary group though is the question and according to Reynolds, the gardai say no.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'Links to dissidents'?

I'm sure the people who did this would have many 'links'.

Aaaaand this is the SF speak we hear so much from their politicians, one of the reasons they got decimated at the local elections, where the SF machines acted like a robot rather than anything human.

These people could have links to horticulturists or craft beer makers, but in the day to day vernacular of the engish language we know full well what 'links to dissidents' means. So fudge away Francie.

ohnonotgmail

markodaly wrote: »

Aaaaand this is the SF speak we hear so much from their politicians, one of the reasons they got decimated at the local elections, where the SF machines acted like a robot rather than anything human.

These people could have links to horticulturists or craft beer makers, but in the day to day vernacular of the engish language we know full well what 'links to dissidents' means. So fudge away Francie.

those dissident horticulturists can be a very rum lot. definitely to be avoided.

ohnonotgmail

maccored wrote: »

enough of that malarkey. You've been the one posting about it constantly for some unknown reason.

Im with Francie on this - I couldnt give a monkeys if adams was in the IRA or not.

your 66 posts in this thread would suggest otherwise.

WB Yokes

Gerry was an IRA man and a British agent. He was responsible for the Eksund seizure.

Odhinn

WB Yokes wrote: »

Gerry was an IRA man and a British agent. He was responsible for the Eksund seizure.

Maybe its time to cut back on the yokes?