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Quinn Director abducted and assaulted

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    #962
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    I can see the media organisations challenging this decision in the High Court. They have done so in the past and succeeded.


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    #963
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    He will be named after his case for another crime is dealt with. If they name him now he could claim the case (nothing to do with QIH) was prejudiced.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #964
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Edgware wrote: »
    I can see the media organisations challenging this decision in the High Court. They have done so in the past and succeeded.


    They wont. It would prejudice the first case he has to face which are more serious charges.


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    #965
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,156 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    STB. wrote: »
    Its the decisions of the judiciary that has lunatics out there that should never have been on the streets given their previous.

    There will be serious blowback against the judiciary when the fourth man is eventually named, which wont be for some time yet as he is facing very serious charges in a separate case and has previously got off lightly in another.

    I am not seeing an issue if it would jeopardise another case. The law is in motion. The general public not knowing his name just yet is only an affront to nosiness.
    What does it matter to them?


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    #966
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Call me Al wrote: »
    They aren't afraid, so why you are so incredulous at the thought of McGuinness arguing with a paymaster in a public place is beyond me.

    Just because you aren't afraid doesn't mean you take stupid risks.


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    #967
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    STB. wrote: »
    They wont. It would prejudice the first case he has to face which are more serious charges.

    How would it prejudice him?


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    #968
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Edgware wrote: »
    How would it prejudice him?
    The case.

    Because he is accused of a more serious crime in a pending case.


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    #969
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,838 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Effects wrote: »
    Just because you aren't afraid doesn't mean you take stupid risks.

    People are people, stuff like this happens all the time and leads to numerous convictions.


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    #970
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,838 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    god forbid being a toerag consistently would have any negative consequences on someone huh

    Are you a close friend of his, you seem eager to get him a get put of gaol card.


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    #971
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,838 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    171170 wrote: »
    So not only do you slobber all over Sinn Fein whenever the opportunity arises, but you also slobber all over Sean Quinn, Francie.

    At least you're consistent in your selection of pin-ups!

    In fairness he was calling out your childish horse shi7.


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    #972
    McCrack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭McCrack


      Edgware wrote: »
      How would it prejudice him?

      Because right to a fair trial

      Jury's read news don't forget


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      #973
      u140acro3xs7dm
      Closed Accounts Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


      STB. wrote: »
      The case.

      Because he is accused of a more serious crime in a pending case.

      How serious?


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      #974
      Gadgetman496
      Registered Users Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


      Rhys Plain Sun wrote: »
      How serious?

      More serious than false imprisonment & assault :)

      "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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      #975
      Edgware
      Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


      STB. wrote: »
      The case.

      Because he is accused of a more serious crime in a pending case.
      Fase imprisonment has a life sentence option. It would want to be very serious.


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      #976
      Edgware
      Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


      McCrack wrote: »

        Because right to a fair trial

        Jury's read news don't forget

        This case will go to the Special Criminal Court, non jury. The State are at last treating this like the Limerick Gang cases. Every part of the State are working together to deal with scumbags. No bail, long sentences if convicted, Criminal Assets Bureau let loose


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        #977
        tdf7187
        Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


        nacho libre wrote: »
        I recall an article written in the Irish Time around 12 years ago praising Sean Quinn as an astute and careful business man, whose only indulgence was his weekly game of cards for a few quid. In fairness to the journalist who wrote the piece, i imagine many people did have a good opinion of him back then

        Sean FitzPatrick also received adulatory, almost fawning press coverage back then.

        If Quinn had stuck to the knitting and not decided that he wanted to own a bank, he could still be in business today.


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        #978
        STB.
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        Edgware wrote: »
        This case will go to the Special Criminal Court, non jury. The State are at last treating this like the Limerick Gang cases. Every part of the State are working together to deal with scumbags. No bail, long sentences if convicted, Criminal Assets Bureau let loose


        Yeah well none of that happened previously.

        When the timeline of what this guy has allegedly been involved in is released to the public, questions will be asked of what he was doing out. It looks like a litany of successive failures by the courts.


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        #979
        FrancieBrady
        Registered Users Posts: 69,156 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


        STB. wrote: »
        Yeah well none of that happened previously.

        When the timeline of what this guy has allegedly been involved in is released to the public, questions will be asked of what he was doing out. It looks like a litany of successive failures by the courts.

        Whatever about previously (I think it has happened previously btw) there is no doubt that once a certain threshold was passed the Gardai and agencies of the state shut this thing down very quickly.
        The question is why did it take so long, when we know files were landing on the Commissioner's desk.


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        #980
        STB.
        Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


        FrancieBrady wrote: »
        Whatever about previously (I think it has happened previously btw) there is no doubt that once a certain threshold was passed the Gardai and agencies of the state shut this thing down very quickly.
        The question is why did it take so long, when we know files were landing on the Commissioner's desk.


        That is the question that will come out of all this. And how many others are allowed to be among the general population several years after being charged with serious crimes that they are alleged to have committed.

        Absolute mess.


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        #981
        Viscount Aggro
        Registered Users Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


        What has East Wall got to do with QIH ?
        I dont see the connection.


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        #982
        Dr Turk Turkelton
        Registered Users Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


        Viscount Aggro wrote: »
        What has East Wall got to do with QIH ?
        I dont see the connection.

        "Dublin" Jimmy?


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        #983
        mgn
        Registered Users Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭mgn


        Viscount Aggro wrote: »
        What has East Wall got to do with QIH ?
        I dont see the connection.

        Hired thugs.


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        #984
        White lighting
        Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭White lighting


        Edgware wrote: »
        Fase imprisonment has a life sentence option. It would want to be very serious.

        If found guilty of his other charge the only sentence available to the judge is a life sentence that should help identify the other charge he is before the courts for.


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        #985
        tdf7187
        Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


        Sorry but why is it one of the defendants couldn't be named?


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        #986
        walshb
        Registered Users Posts: 56,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


        This country needs to nuckle the fcuk down on lawlessness...

        It’s absolute out of control. People have next to no respect for law, order, society and decency; and so little fear of repercussions..

        Whomever is responsible for this vicious attack should face serious jail time...

        We need some serious deterrent to crime. Right now, there is eff all deterrent with the disgustingly lenient sentences handed down to some real nasty people.

        And it’s absolutely disgusting to think that it took a man to almost be murdered before any serious action was taken...


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        #987
        STB.
        Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


        mgn wrote: »
        Hired thugs.


        Serious criminals.


        In some cases more single convictions than the max you can score on a dartboard.


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        #988
        Faugheen
        Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


        tdf7187 wrote: »
        Sorry but why is it one of the defendants couldn't be named?

        If I was to guess I would say it’s because he’s before the courts on another matter whereby he can’t be named, so the same applies here also.


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        #989
        tayto lover
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        FrancieBrady wrote: »
        Whatever about previously (I think it has happened previously btw) there is no doubt that once a certain threshold was passed the Gardai and agencies of the state shut this thing down very quickly.
        The question is why did it take so long, when we know files were landing on the Commissioner's desk.

        I was told once that a case file (I was a witness to something) was in the DPP’s office awaiting a decision for the guts of 2 years. That is far too slow and people commit further crimes during that time.
        I don’t know about files being in the Commissioner’s office or why they would be waiting for him to make a decision because there would be no point of law to be decided upon by him except policing matters or manpower issues. I have a feeling they were hoping things would die down and that things would revert to normal in the community.


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        #990
        Dual wheels
        Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


        Luke the crook and a couple of hired apes, pity this is Ireland where they will go into castlerea Centre Park for a 6 month holiday


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        #991
        171170
        Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭171170


        FrancieBrady wrote: »
        :)

        Cyril was neither an early nor 'late' nephew of MMCG.

        My opinion was of 'your stupidity' in making a post like you did.

        My opinion of Quinn was immaterial to the post.


        Given your adulation for the late Cyril Martin, I'm happy to accept your word for that.


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