Quinn Director abducted and assaulted

2thousand14 · 23-09-2019 10:01pm

I read a post near the start of this thread which I think is the most likely reason for all this. The IRA back in the troubles were gaining heavily due to the operation of the Quinn company. And then that all stopped after the takeover and they weren’t happy.

celt262 · 23-09-2019 10:04pm

2thousand14 wrote: »

I read a post near the start of this thread which I think is the most likely reason for all this. The IRA back in the troubles were gaining heavily due to the operation of the Quinn company. And then that all stopped after the takeover and they weren’t happy.

How were they gaining heavily?

Danzy · 23-09-2019 10:23pm

2thousand14 wrote: »

I read a post near the start of this thread which I think is the most likely reason for all this. The IRA back in the troubles were gaining heavily due to the operation of the Quinn company. And then that all stopped after the takeover and they weren’t happy.

Whoever is doing this is paid well to keep it up.

That is the sole reason it is done.

There is a 20 year gap in your explanation.

tdf7187 · 23-09-2019 10:31pm

Danzy wrote: »

Whoever is doing this is paid well to keep it up.

That is the sole reason it is done.

There is a 20 year gap in your explanation.

It's a plausible theory nevertheless. 20 year gap? Yes but what employment opportunities are there for former terrorists?

Muahahaha · 23-09-2019 10:40pm

celt262 wrote: »

Someone will start singing at some stage and the truth will come out.

Sounds like the Gardai know exactly who is behind it. The muppets forgot to buy bleach before the kidnapping and now one of them has been caught on a shops CCTV buying it locally at the exact time the incident was ongoing. Kevin Lunney told the Gardai that while he was being tortured there was an argument between them about the bleach and one of them was sent out to the shops to get it. They're not just scum, they're complete idiots too.

2thousand14 · 23-09-2019 10:42pm

celt262 wrote: »

How were they gaining heavily?

Could be many things but some way the IRA has to have used such a large company to their advantage back then

Who’s to say the people that are doing this are being paid. They could be taking this on on their own accord.

23-09-2019 10:57pm

shesty wrote: »

Apart from those in the area who continue to believe that he is the best thing ever.

Don't be so sure, there's not such a big fan club anymore

heldel00 · 23-09-2019 11:05pm

Quinn paid a chunk of "protection money" yearly, to be left alone to go about his business, making a fortune. This was a handy earner for "the lads" and everyone was kept happy
New heads take over and refuse to pay. The handy earner is gone and it's seen as huge disrespect. These people are not used to hearing the word no and are used to getting their own way.

ToBeFrank123 · 23-09-2019 11:11pm

The inaction of guards in the area for the last 5 years is the next big scandal in the force.

Sounds like they didn't want to rock the boat in Quinn country and turned a blind eye to intimidation and death threats.

Danzy · 23-09-2019 11:14pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

The inaction of guards in the area for the last 5 years is the next big scandal in the force.

Sounds like they didn't want to rock the boat in Quinn country and turned a blind eye to intimidation and death threats.

Lot of Guards were unhappy with it but they had to go along.

They know why as well.

ToBeFrank123 · 23-09-2019 11:14pm

heldel00 wrote: »

Quinn paid a chunk of "protection money" yearly, to be left alone to go about his business, making a fortune. This was a handy earner for "the lads" and everyone was kept happy
New heads take over and refuse to pay. The handy earner is gone and it's seen as huge disrespect. These people are not used to hearing the word no and are used to getting their own way.

That could be one scenario. Another scenario is someone paid the gang large sums of money to threathen, intimidate and physically assault the current management. The gardai appear to be investigating this scenario.

heldel00 · 23-09-2019 11:17pm

The world and his wife know the culprits. They'll be got and there'll be a real clanger for the media in it too.

Danzy · 23-09-2019 11:18pm

heldel00 wrote: »

Quinn paid a chunk of "protection money" yearly, to be left alone to go about his business, making a fortune. This was a handy earner for "the lads" and everyone was kept happy
New heads take over and refuse to pay. The handy earner is gone and it's seen as huge disrespect. These people are not used to hearing the word no and are used to getting their own way.

So the Guards were turning a blind eye to a protection racket and a campaign of violence following the ending of protection money.

Doesn't make sense.

Lots of people being well paid to do this and ignore it .

whisky_galore · 23-09-2019 11:18pm

tdf7187 wrote: »

It's a plausible theory nevertheless. 20 year gap? Yes but what employment opportunities are there for former terrorists?

Drugs and washing diesel are two that come to mind.
A hard border would be great for "business" too.

AndrewJRenko · 24-09-2019 7:18am

STB. wrote: »

I'd have to say I am in total agreement with Daniel McConnell view in the Irish Examiner.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/columnists/lunney-was-assaulted-quinn-is-not-the-victim-952090.html

Is there a contradiction in the article?

“All I can do is send out my condolences to Kevin and Bronagh and whatever number of children they have. Express my sympathy to them. My view is you wouldn’t do that to a dog. It is not natural; it is barbaric,” he said.

"Not once did he wish Lunney well in his recovery; not once. But that might have been an oversight"

Happy4all · 24-09-2019 7:26am

heldel00 wrote: »

The world and his wife know the culprits. They'll be got and there'll be a real clanger for the media in it too.

I don't

STB. · 24-09-2019 9:05am

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is there a contradiction in the article?

“All I can do is send out my condolences to Kevin and Bronagh and whatever number of children they have. Express my sympathy to them. My view is you wouldn’t do that to a dog. It is not natural; it is barbaric,” he said.

"Not once did he wish Lunney well in his recovery; not once. But that might have been an oversight"

Condolences on being assaulted and best wishes for recovery are two different things, I suppose is the point he is trying to make, as he goes on to describe what else was said in the interview (with Northern Sound).

The Times in the UK ran an extensive article on this at the weekend. You should read that.

The undertones are quite clear and have been acknowledged by Quinn himself who has said that his family will be blamed for this.

One thing is for sure, somebody was paid to do this, by persons unknown.

heldel00 · 24-09-2019 7:43pm

Happy4all wrote: »

heldel00 wrote: »

The world and his wife know the culprits. They'll be got and there'll be a real clanger for the media in it too.

I don't

Edited to add - The world and his wife, in the locality, ....

celt262 · 24-09-2019 7:52pm

heldel00 wrote: »

Edited to add - The world and his wife, in the locality, ....

PM me the cuplrits

Millionaire only not · 24-09-2019 9:42pm

The shop that sold the bleach should check its wiring I believe it’s liable to go on fire in the future!

Muahahaha · 25-09-2019 4:05pm

Whatever about the inaction up until now the Gardai seem to know well who is responsible for this and they have one of them on CCTV. They also have the horse box he was tortured in so its highly likely the perps left DNA behind them there. Problem now though is the culprits are not going to be the right side of the border for arrests. This will suit the person who was paying them down to the ground.

James Brown · 25-09-2019 5:37pm

heldel00 wrote: »

The world and his wife know the culprits. They'll be got and there'll be a real clanger for the media in it too.

Gadgetman496 · 26-09-2019 2:09am

Understanding the complexity of the Quinn empire:

https://www.thecurrency.news/articles/757/leveraging-full-surrender-the-real-story-of-why-the-quinn-family-dropped-their-epic-legal-battle

realitykeeper · 26-09-2019 5:15am

Odhinn wrote: »

There's been attacks against property and various threats made since the Quinn family were removed.

I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

Millionaire only not · 26-09-2019 10:43pm

https://www.thecurrency.news/articles/757/leveraging-full-surrender-the-real-story-of-why-the-quinn-family-dropped-their-epic-legal-battle

This is very good on the money trial and how high up Kevin Lunney was !

He never learned in that looks like he was offered a deal that would have given him back control and gambled again and lost !

But still looks like heaps of money somewhere

CatFromHue · 26-09-2019 11:34pm

realitykeeper wrote: »

I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

This is not fair on a number of levels.

Number 1 being you're calling Sean Quinn a dope. A dope wouldn't have built such a huge multi billionaire multi national business empire like Quinn did.

Number 2 is that it's absolutely nothing to do with Quinn not being a Dub and 100% to do with what he was doing, the debts he'd run up, and the state of the business at the time.

Number 3 is nobody miss sold Anglo to him, he bought all those shares on his own back. Anglo didn't even know until it was far too late that he'd bought them or even how much he'd bought.

Number 4 is I don't condone but.....:rolleyes:

Topgear on Dave · 26-09-2019 11:39pm

realitykeeper wrote: »

I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

Sean is no innocent, he was playing big boy games and wasnt some small amateur.

He could be fairly sharp in his own practices too if the shoe had been on the other foot

AndrewJRenko · 27-09-2019 6:20am

realitykeeper wrote: »

I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

If only there was some way that poor Sean could have got independent advice to understand the risks he was taking on?

Have a read of that Currency article to see how risk assessment wasn't part of his language.

Mis sold? This wasn't a case of payment protection insurance. This was a billion euro gamble to take control of the bank, because being multi millionaires just wasn't enough and he had to over reach as he strived to make them all billionaires.

It was greed - plain and simple.

sasta le · 27-09-2019 6:48am

Why isn’t this Sean Quinn fella investigated?

cj maxx · 27-09-2019 8:24am

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

If only there was some way that poor Sean could have got independent advice to understand the risks he was taking on?

Have a read of that Currency article to see how risk assessment wasn't part of his language.

Mis sold? This wasn't a case of payment protection insurance. This was a billion euro gamble to take control of the bank, because being multi millionaires just wasn't enough and he had to over reach as he strived to make them all billionaires.

It was greed - plain and simple.

Good article, got nearly through it before the pay wall went up.

Quinn Director abducted and assaulted

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