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Brexit discussion thread XI (Please read OP before posting)

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  • #8462
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Interesting to see the DUP numbers now.


  • #8463
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,594 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    FFS.

    Like a games of snakes and ladders. Back down we go.


  • #8464
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    They’ve lost.


  • #8465
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Program motion defeated.


  • #8466
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Fair play to the DUP!


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  • #8467
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,981 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I could be wrong but I think this vote could be on the timetable. i.e three days to get a timetable in place for a generational shift that could last 30-35 years. Could be wrong.

    But if it is so, I honestly would not rate those supporting this for their forward thinking or analysis of anything.


  • #8468
    liamtech
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭liamtech


    What is Corbyn at?

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • #8469
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    At least Boris got a win in Parliament. Shame the one he wanted to win he lost by 14. So even if the DUP had voted with Boris they’d still have lost but by 4 votes.


  • #8470
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    tuxy wrote: »
    Fair play to the DUP!

    Bottle of mouthwash Tuxy ?


  • #8471
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    He's got his deal vote. Game and set to Boris.


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  • #8472
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,981 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Why are people saying DUP should be commended? They are just doing this for themselves.

    They were shafted by Johnson and rightly so. They deserve nothing more now. Idiots.


  • #8473
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    At least Boris got a win in Parliament. Shame the one he wanted to win he lost by 14. So even if the DUP had voted with Boris they’d still have lost but by 4 votes.

    The difference is 14. Had the 10 DUP voted for it then it would be 318 Yes, 312 No.

    That's assuming the DUP did vote No.


  • #8474
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's got his deal vote. Game and set to Boris.

    He got a vote to move a bill onto the next stage of the parliamentary process. That happens to every bill that goes through the House of Commons.


  • #8475
    derrymcorry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭derrymcorry


    One thing is clear:

    A border poll MUST be held before the year is out.

    Let Ireland reunify and GB to go their own way out of the EU.


  • #8476
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    At least Boris got a win in Parliament. Shame the one he wanted to win he lost by 14. So even if the DUP had voted with Boris they’d still have lost but by 4 votes.

    They voted no, there's 10 of them. With them voting yes it should have been 318 to 312 in favour.
    Quick math!


  • #8477
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's got his deal vote. Game and set to Boris.

    Not really, amendments will be piled on now more than likely, and I guess that's a motive for some to have voted for it.


  • #8478
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's got his deal vote. Game and set to Boris.

    Major Victory for Boris Johnson and you can see he is cock a hoop about it

    He has done what May couldn't and others said he never would

    He will get it through after a few week I would say with some amendments

    Corbyn has played it all so badly

    Almost as bad as the DUP


  • #8479
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    He got a vote to move a bill onto the next stage of the parliamentary process. That happens to every bill that goes through the House of Commons.
    It's his first! In the context of the larger picture of British politics that's a good win.


  • #8480
    Tea Shock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 345 ✭✭Tea Shock


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Major Victory for Boris Johnson and you can see he is cock a hoop about it

    He has done what May couldn't and others said he never would

    He will get it through after a few week I would say with some amendments

    Corbyn has played it all so badly

    Almost as bad as the DUP

    That depends on what the amendments are!


  • #8481
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Not really, amendments will be piled on now more than likely, and I guess that's a motive for some to have voted for it.
    They will come but Corbyn has all but accepted they'll eventually vote for it.


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  • #8482
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Jesus the DUP are sounding constructive. What the hell has happened ?


  • #8483
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Tea Shock wrote: »
    That depends on what the amendments are!

    Will amendments have to be approved by the EU?
    I guess it depends on what they might be.


  • #8484
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,047 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It's his first! In the context of the larger picture of British politics that's a good win.

    It's not though...


    Really


  • #8485
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Tea Shock wrote: »
    That depends on what the amendments are!

    there is no stomach in HoC to let it slide or go for no deal


  • #8486
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Jesus the DUP are sounding constructive. What the hell has happened ?

    Throwing a tantrum is constructive?


  • #8487
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    tuxy wrote: »
    Will amendments have to be approved by the EU?
    I guess it depends on what they might be.

    Exactly. Any amendments won't be equal to what the EU agreed to.


  • #8488
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,801 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    "One way or another the country will leave with this deal"

    Boris Johnson very happy parliament has endorsed the principle of his deal.


  • #8489
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,226 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    tuxy wrote: »
    Throwing a tantrum is constructive?

    Look little acorns.


  • #8490
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    listermint wrote: »
    It's not though...


    Really
    For people both than Boris no, but for him it is. He's performed well politically since the EU accepted negotiations on the deal.


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  • #8491
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Exactly. Any amendments won't be equal to what the EU agreed to.

    Again EU wil accept amendments as long they are not about a border in NI I would say

    They also want it done


    This whole process is not about what is right , what is best for the country

    Its about the end game and MPs keeping their seats and everyone being winners


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