Garda V Pavee Point

paw patrol · 23-09-2019 7:00pm #1

The gardai boxed the Fire Service and raise 50k for Temple Street Children’s Hospital and the ARC Cancer Support Group. This should be commended...

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4572312/gardai-fire-fighters-e50000-charity-boxing-event/

However one of the garda does a piss take call out video You may have seen it online or WhatsApp ….- tbh was kinda cringe but in good faith and nothing terrible just a skit...
And let us not forget - they raised 50k for sick kids....this is a good thing.

And yet our pals in Pavee Point make a fuss

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/outrage-garda-filmed-mocking-traveller-20133276

Martin Collins, Co-Director of Traveller support group Pavee Point, told the Irish Mirror he is “appalled” at the videos.
He said: “I have to say that I’m absolutely appalled at the behaviour of these people, who I understand some to be staff of the fire brigade and others to be members of An Garda Siochana.

and the good garda is now suspended for offending the perpetually offended.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/garda-suspended-following-video-which-reinforces-stereotypes-around-traveller-community-952519.html

This garda contributed to society in quite a meaningful way- WTF have Pavee Point ever done but take , take , take and their spokesman Martin Collins conveniently disappears when the hard questions about travellers are being asked.

For a macho culture they are sure able to whine like little bitches when it suits them.

As somebody who has spent time myself and my kids in Temple St , this has really pissed me off.
This is authoritarian stuff over a bit of fun.

BTW fcuk the garda top brass too. Shower of w@ankers.

In case you didn't notice , I'm enraged about this.

Eric Cartman · 23-09-2019 7:03pm

did the director of pavee point just basically admit that drunkenly slurring words and threatening people on video was part of traveller culture ?

pjohnson · 23-09-2019 7:04pm

paw patrol wrote: »

The gardai boxed the Fire Service and raise 50k for Temple Street Children’s Hospital and the ARC Cancer Support Group. This should be commended...

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4572312/gardai-fire-fighters-e50000-charity-boxing-event/

However one of the garda does a piss take call out video You may have seen it online or WhatsApp ….- tbh was kinda cringe but in good faith and nothing terrible just a skit...
And let us not forget - they raised 50k for sick kids....this is a good thing.

And yet our pals in Pavee Point make a fuss

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/outrage-garda-filmed-mocking-traveller-20133276

and the good garda is now suspended for offending the perpetually offended.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/garda-suspended-following-video-which-reinforces-stereotypes-around-traveller-community-952519.html

This garda contributed to society in quite a meaningful way- WTF have Pavee Point ever done but take , take , take and their spokesman Martin Collins conveniently disappears when the hard questions about travellers are being asked.

For a macho culture they are sure able to whine like little bitches when it suits them.

As somebody who has spent time myself and my kids in Temple St , this has really pissed me off.
This is authoritarian stuff over a bit of fun.

BTW fcuk the garda top brass too. Shower of w@ankers.

In case you didn't notice , I'm enraged about this.

And here you are offended.

freshpopcorn · 23-09-2019 7:05pm

It's strange how Pavee Point calls some people out on certain issues and ignores lots of other issues. Martin Collins should should be focusing on lots of other issues first.

I gave a quick look at the video at the weekend and it may be a little stupid more than anything but travellers aren't the only people who are allowed to do call out videos.

Danzy · 23-09-2019 7:05pm

This is a call out to all de sick kids, ya bucket of sh763.

Pavee Point will fight ya any time at tall.

Samuel T. Cogley · 23-09-2019 7:06pm

I hope he just gets a slap on the wrist but the guards have been warned about doing silly things in 'uniform'.

Quantum Erasure · 23-09-2019 7:08pm

cultural appropriation, boss

paw patrol · 23-09-2019 7:11pm

pjohnson wrote: »

And here you are offended.

I'm angry not offended.
Nice Try though and thanks for your constructive point.

Danzy · 23-09-2019 7:12pm

It has to be stressed again that suspension is his reward for helping raise 50k for kids with cancer.

Pavee Point offer nothing to Irish society, settled or travellers.

STB. · 23-09-2019 7:20pm

It was clearly a satirical piece by two working frontline lads doing a fight for charity.

In those that are offended by it, well then its clearly more through the embarrassment of recognising themselves.

No need for that member of AGS to be suspended given the background and obvious satire.

Perhaps Pavee Point could do some charity work for Crumlin Children's Hospital etc than trying to tighten the distinctions between comedy and real life.

23-09-2019 7:23pm

Pavee Point: Quick to condemn matters of trivial importance, deafeningly silent when barbaric practices like human slavery are brought to light.

Eric Cartman · 23-09-2019 7:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Pavee Point: Quick to condemn matters of trivial importance, deafeningly silent when barbaric practices like human slavery are brought to light.

sure martin collins wouldnt be a fan of gardai anyway
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/advocate-of-travellers-rights-gets-driving-ban-26405074.html

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/traveller-jailed-for-assault-and-death-threat-318405.html

meeeeh · 23-09-2019 7:33pm

I wish I could care. Two groups that do feck all squabbling among themselves.

Dodgy Lou · 23-09-2019 7:33pm

Get suspended because you mock their ****ty 'culture'...ffs.

c.p.w.g.w · 23-09-2019 7:36pm

Paver Point can go and get fcuked shower "perpetual victims"

14dMoney · 23-09-2019 7:37pm

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Irishphotodesk · 23-09-2019 7:48pm

Do you think Mr Collins or pavee point would be willing to make any comment on the fact that these calling out videos are an attempt of intimidation by members of the travelling community against others, and that the resulting "fights" are illegal.

So members of the travelling community engage in an illegal activity but that's ok to overlook , but if someone else performs a piece of comedy... It must be them at fault.

Disclosure: I was at the event on Friday, Conor McGregor was also there, are pavee point or Mr Collins also going to critical of him ?

Irishphotodesk · 23-09-2019 7:48pm

Do you think Mr Collins or pavee point would be willing to make any comment on the fact that these calling out videos are an attempt of intimidation by members of the travelling community against others, and that the resulting "fights" are illegal.

So members of the travelling community engage in an illegal activity but that's ok to overlook , but if someone else performs a piece of comedy... It must be them at fault.

Disclosure: I was at the event on Friday, Conor McGregor was also there, are pavee point or Mr Collins also going to critical of him ?

Richard Hillman · 23-09-2019 7:53pm

Jesus, nobody show WWE to Martin Collins. They do call out videos all the time over there

Tasfasdf · 23-09-2019 7:59pm

Where does such a fkin usesless organisation get its money from?

lawrencesummers · 23-09-2019 8:07pm

Tasfasdf wrote: »

Where does such a fkin usesless organisation get its money from?

A better question to ask is what they spend their money on, because the don’t publish any accounts online.

The video was a monumentally stupid thing for the Garda to do, he was wearing part of his uniform and it was about an event linked to his Job. He should have known better and will be reprimanded.

As for Pavee point I’ve no interest in their opinion on matters, they do good work I’m sure in some aspects but choose to roundly ignore the massive issues of the travelling community which affect the settled community.

freshpopcorn · 23-09-2019 8:11pm

lawrencesummers wrote: »

A better question to ask is what they spend their money on, because the don’t publish any accounts online.

The video was a monumentally stupid thing for the Garda to do, he was wearing part of his uniform and it was about an event linked to his Job. He should have known better and will be reprimanded.

As for Pavee point I’ve no interest in their opinion on matters, they do good work I’m sure in some aspects but choose to roundly ignore the massive issues of the travelling community which affect the settled community.

Yes, give the garda and fireman and medal and sack Martin Collins and reform Pavee Point.

STB. · 23-09-2019 8:11pm

Heres an idea.

Vote with your feet. Add a comment when donating to say you got the satire.

https://www.idonate.ie/fundraiser/11381144_fergal--mcdonagh-s-page.html

23-09-2019 8:12pm

I listened to Martin Collins earlier on the radio, I was driving so not sure which station it was. Probably today fm.
He was actually quite reasonable.
He stated they are not looking for the guard to lose his job or anything like it. In fact, he said he doesn't believe there was anything malicious meant by the video.
& he admitted that the bare knuckle fights are a major problem.

So, really very reasonable from pavee point

Galwayguy35 · 23-09-2019 8:16pm

bubblypop wrote: »

I listened to Martin Collins earlier on the radio, I was driving so not sure which station it was. Probably today fm.
He was actually quite reasonable.
He stated they are not looking for the guard to lose his job or anything like it. In fact, he said he doesn't believe there was anything malicious meant by the video.
& he admitted that the bare knuckle fights are a major problem.

So, really very reasonable from pavee point

I heard it too, he was far from reasonable calling for disciplinary action against the people in the video.

People with responsible jobs who were doing their bit for a good cause, 2 things the pavees would know nothing about.

STB. · 23-09-2019 8:16pm

@ bubblypop. He said a lot more than that to the newspapers. The chap has been suspended. Somebody complained.

Littlehorny · 23-09-2019 8:16pm

If travellers didn't make these stupid videos in the first place there would be nothing to satirise.

23-09-2019 8:17pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I heard it too, he was far from reasonable calling for disciplinary action against the people in the video.

People with responsible jobs who were doing their bit for a good cause, 2 things the pavees would know nothing about.

No, he didn't want any disciplinary action.
He wanted an apology & for the guard to undergo some extra training
We must have been listening to different shows.

STB. · 23-09-2019 8:22pm

The guard doesn't need to be sent on any training course.

It was a fundraising fight for charity between DFB vs AGS in Croke Park.

The videos are clearly satirical. Its pure poor victim mentality.

5uspect · 23-09-2019 8:31pm

bubblypop wrote: »

No, he didn't want any disciplinary action.
He wanted an apology & for the guard to undergo some extra training
We must have been listening to different shows.

Apology for what?

meeeeh · 23-09-2019 8:33pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I heard it too, he was far from reasonable calling for disciplinary action against the people in the video.

People with responsible jobs who were doing their bit for a good cause, 2 things the pavees would know nothing about.

I'm pretty sure AGS already have issues getting any information or cooperation from Travelling community. They won't get anywhere with them making the videos making fun out of them. With stuff like that it's even less likely criminals among Travelers will be caught. Maybe they should be doing their jobs firs and leave the comedy to others. It seems any stupidity can be excused with but it's for charity.

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