Climate Protests in Ireland

weldoninhio

riffmongous wrote: »

You know protests need to be organised to account for permissions for public spaces, emergency services, stages for speakers etc. Maybe you could learn a thing or two from the kids..

It's not a weekly thing, outside of perhaps a tiny minority of people. The protests have since about last Spring been organised as mass demonstrations worldwide every few months, usually on a Friday. That's what it is.

You'll have to tell Greta that. Every week she talks about hoping to see everyone out again on Friday. It's a protest now? Was a strike when people asked why kids couldn't do it on a Saturday. You're talking yourself in circles here buddy. I've seen people on strike in my building, there were no stages, no emergency services.

Thelonious Monk

weldoninhio wrote: »

You'll have to tell Greta that. Every week she talks about hoping to see everyone out again on Friday. It's a protest now? Was a strike when people asked why kids couldn't do it on a Saturday. You're talking yourself in circles here buddy. I've seen people on strike in my building, there were no stages, no emergency services.

You've really f*cking sussed those pesky kids out haven't you big man!

riffmongous

weldoninhio wrote: »

You'll have to tell Greta that. Every week she talks about hoping to see everyone out again on Friday. It's a protest now? Was a strike when people asked why kids couldn't do it on a Saturday. You're talking yourself in circles here buddy. I've seen people on strike in my building, there were no stages, no emergency services.

You know a strike is a form of protest

https://www.businessinsider.de/global-climate-strike-photos-show-protests-around-world-school-children-2019-9?r=US&IR=T

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/climate/global-climate-strike.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49767327

And did these striking people in your building go out on to the streets in their thousands?

vriesmays

lleti wrote: »

Next recession is coming. No one will care about these protests then.

Next month.

Thelonious Monk

Recession is actually good for the environment, the amount of Co2 pumped out during the last recession decreased a fair bit. It just shows us that we shouldn't be dictating the world based on economic booms.

weldoninhio

riffmongous wrote: »

You know a strike is a form of protest

https://www.businessinsider.de/global-climate-strike-photos-show-protests-around-world-school-children-2019-9?r=US&IR=T

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/climate/global-climate-strike.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49767327

And did these striking people in your building go out on to the streets in their thousands?

What school in Ireland has anything close to a thousand students? It’s grand, it was something cool to get a day off school. They’ll be on to the next funky cause now.

is_that_so

riffmongous wrote: »

You know a strike is a form of protest

https://www.businessinsider.de/global-climate-strike-photos-show-protests-around-world-school-children-2019-9?r=US&IR=T

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/climate/global-climate-strike.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49767327

And did these striking people in your building go out on to the streets in their thousands?

Strikes are a form of withdrawal of labour and serve to produce concessions, generally accompanied by negotiations. These things are not strikes as there is no employment involved, they are protests.

is_that_so

weldoninhio wrote: »

What school in Ireland has anything close to a thousand students? It’s grand, it was something cool to get a day off school. They’ll be on to the next funky cause now.

Biggest school has 1600 students. There are some around 1000 mark as well and lots in excess of 600 students.

riffmongous

is_that_so wrote: »

Strikes are a form of withdrawal of labour and serve to produce concessions, generally accompanied by negotiations. These things are not strikes as there is no employment involved, they are protests.

Not everyone there is a student actually, depending on which 'protest/strike' you go to.

Eric Cartman

riffmongous wrote: »

Not everyone there is a student actually, depending on which 'protest/strike' you go to.

im sure there is a handful of waitresses or cleaners or what have you but it doesn't really upset the entire demographic of these things.

Thelonious Monk

Eric Cartman wrote: »

im sure there is a handful of waitresses or cleaners or what have you but it doesn't really upset the entire demographic of these things.

Im a teacher. I was there.

Eric Cartman

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Im a teacher. I was there.

that actually explains a lot.

did you instill the fear of greta in your students ?

riffmongous

Eric Cartman wrote: »

im sure there is a handful of waitresses or cleaners or what have you but it doesn't really upset the entire demographic of these things.

Probably but also a lot of academics and researchers (can personally vouch for this).. you know the people who actually know what's going on and study it for their living..unlike the people who spout their uninformed drivel here

Thelonious Monk

Eric Cartman wrote: »

that actually explains a lot.

did you instill the fear of greta in your students ?

Nope. And I dont teach in a regular school, private students. Music. But i took the time to go.

is_that_so

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Nope. And I dont teach in a regular school, private students. Music. But i took the time to go.

So you weren't on strike either? I think it's a misnomer. Why it was chosen I don't know. Perhaps labelling it a strike is to show it's a greater sacrifice. Anyone watching on would just see a protest.

is_that_so

riffmongous wrote: »

Probably but also a lot of academics and researchers (can personally vouch for this).. you know the people who actually know what's going on and study it for their living..unlike the people who spout their uninformed drivel here

Which suggests you are only tolerant of people you feel merit it or support your view. Not calling you out just noting it's a very common attitude on almost any topic these days regardless of where you stand on them.

riffmongous

is_that_so wrote: »

Which suggests you are only tolerant of people you feel merit it or support your view. Not calling you out just noting it's a very common attitude on almost any topic these days regardless of where you stand on them.

If you were a professional in an area, would you trust the opinion of people who have just shown to you they have little or no idea of how a specific topic works, maybe just the basics, or colleagues who spend their lives studying and researching it? And that's being very generous to the crap you see posted here

Portsalon

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Nope. And I dont teach in a regular school, private students. Music. But i took the time to go.

What a magnificent gesture. Almost as impressive as Bobby Sands going on a diet to achieve something or other back in 1983.

weldoninhio

is_that_so wrote: »

Biggest school has 1600 students. There are some around 1000 mark as well and lots in excess of 600 students.

Plenty of safe room within the grounds of Gorey Community School for a protest.

is_that_so

riffmongous wrote: »

If you were a professional in an area, would you trust the opinion of people who have just shown to you they have little or no idea of how a specific topic works, maybe just the basics, or colleagues who spend their lives studying and researching it? And that's being very generous to the crap you see posted here

Being a professional in another area I show enormous patience with people who often have limited knowledge of it. What you do learn is that butting heads just hardens positions and people mostly don't care to be informed. What you don't do is insult them especially if it is something they claim to believe. Ultimately you accept that putting people straight is generally completely ineffective and you have to pick your fights.

riffmongous

is_that_so wrote: »

Being a professional in another area I show enormous patience with people who often have limited knowledge of it. What you do learn is that butting heads just hardens positions and people mostly don't care to be informed. What you don't do is insult them especially if it is something they claim to believe. Ultimately you accept that putting people straight is generally completely ineffective and you have to pick your fights.

That approach hasn't worked very well so far though has it.. it's time to call a spade a spade before these idiots do any more damage

Thelonious Monk

is_that_so wrote: »

So you weren't on strike either? I think it's a misnomer. Why it was chosen I don't know. Perhaps labelling it a strike is to show it's a greater sacrifice. Anyone watching on would just see a protest.

No I just showed up to add to the numbers and see what was going on

ToBeFrank123

Anyone think its ironic that most kids are dropped to school these days in their parents car, particularly middle class areas, couldn't be bothered with walking, the bus or cycling and yet are out protesting against climate change?

weldoninhio

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Anyone think its ironic that most kids are dropped to school these days in their parents car particularly in middle class areas, couldn't be bothered with walking, the bus or cycling and yet are out protesting against climate change?

In fairness, they only protested once, no sign of them taking it seriously.

ToBeFrank123

Well here's a suggestion to protesting schoolkids.

Take the bus, walk or cycle to school.
Get off your phone, laptop or tablet in the evening, its using electricity.
Stop watching so much TV, same as above.
Cycle or walk most places.

You know, like your parents and grandparents did when they were your age.

lleti

Any protests today?

Will they keep their attendances up in the rain during the winter?

weldoninhio

lleti wrote: »

Any protests today?

Will they keep their attendances up in the rain during the winter?

I think that was a one time thing, get a day off and take in the last of the summer sun. Can't see it happening in Ireland again until next September.

vriesmays

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Im a teacher. I was there.

Have you brainwashed all your class into believing 0.04% carbon in the atmosphere is affecting our climate.

Eric Cartman

Already saw two girls get out of an audi SQ7 with XRI signs by the shelbourne, 100% as I expected, an ego masturbation movement for bored rich kids

Luxxis

lleti wrote: »

Any protests today?

Will they keep their attendances up in the rain during the winter?

Use an old oil barrel and burn Baboon's to keep warm. Very environmentally friendly.

Pa ElGrande

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Already saw two girls get out of an audi SQ7 with XRI signs by the shelbourne, 100% as I expected, an ego masturbation movement for bored rich kids

That's who they are an upper-middle-class death cult.

20Cent

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

That's who they are an upper-middle-class death cult.

Best reply yet!!!
upper-middle-class death cult.
There is a climate emergency.
The small changes we make in our own lives won't make that much of a difference. It requires government and international level cooperation.

weldoninhio

20Cent wrote: »

Best reply yet!!!
upper-middle-class death cult.
There is a climate emergency.
The small changes we make in our own lives won't make that much of a difference. It requires government and international level cooperation.

Whats the emergency??

malinheader

Anyone out causing bother to anyone going or returning to work should be stopped there benefit's for today or any day they are at it. There not exactly looking for work on these days.

Eric Cartman

Glad to see a big filthy diesel generator powering their stage on merrion square. Cant wait to see how much litter is left behind too

malinheader

Good that some people can take a week off with pay to disrupt other people trying to make a pound

20Cent

weldoninhio wrote: »

Whats the emergency??

The climate emergency.
Been in the news a bit lately.

splinter65

20Cent wrote: »

The climate emergency.
Been in the news a bit lately.

What specifically is the “emergency” bit?

20Cent

splinter65 wrote: »

What specifically is the “emergency” bit?

Not playing that game.
If the scientists don't convince you nothing will.
Climate deniars are either just being contrarian for the sake of it or willfully stupid at this stage.

weldoninhio

20Cent wrote: »

Not playing that game.
If the scientists don't convince you nothing will.
Climate deniars are either just being contrarian for the sake of it or willfully stupid at this stage.

So there is an “emergency”, you just can’t tell us what it is? Grand so.

pjohnson

weldoninhio wrote: »

Whats the emergency??

If you werent roaring crying about it in every thread it might be believable you didnt know.


Or are you admiiting to not knowing what your crying about?

weldoninhio

pjohnson wrote: »

If you werent roaring crying about it in every thread it might be believable you didnt know.


Or are you admiiting to not knowing what your crying about?

Roaring crying? Hahaha. Do you need a degree in hyperbole to post here??

pjohnson

weldoninhio wrote: »

Roaring crying? Hahaha. Do you need a degree in hyperbole to post here??

Dear god no. Dont worry no degree's needed otherwise this thread would be very short.

splinter65

20Cent wrote: »

Not playing that game.
If the scientists don't convince you nothing will.
Climate deniars are either just being contrarian for the sake of it or willfully stupid at this stage.

I’m not a climate denier.
If you say (you do say) that there’s an emergency then you must know what the emergency is.
Or you’re exposing yourself as a drama junkie bull****ter.
Are you a drama junkie bull****ter?
The fact that for over 30 years scientists have been predicting natural calamities that have never come to pass renders the “emergency” dead in the water. The Maldives were supposed to be submerged in the ocean in 2018. Why are they not?

splinter65

weldoninhio wrote: »

So there is an “emergency”, you just can’t tell us what it is? Grand so.

It’s a secret I think.

weldoninhio

splinter65 wrote: »

It’s a secret I think.

Maybe the sky is falling. I read a harrowing book about it years ago. No one would believe Chicken Little.

blueshade

I found the interviews with these narcissists protestors on RTE news last night hilarious, especially the Millennial who says she's ''been in Asia for 2 years but has come home because she feels she can do something useful''. So after 2 years of dossing about in Asia, probably after wasting taxpayer money on some pointless degree in gender studies or some such nonsense, she has now probably come home to doss about on the Dole as a part time slacktivist. The numbers should fall on Friday as the majority of them head off to the Post Office to collect their Dole payments.

20Cent

Amazing how people make up backstory's for protesters that tick all their prejudice boxes.

inforfun

The 70's had these kind of idiotic cults as well.
But at least they had LSD and other drugs as an excuse for their behaviour and thinking.

blueshade

20Cent wrote: »

Amazing how people make up backstory's for protesters that tick all their prejudice boxes.

Do tell, how I've made a prejudiced backstory? 2 years in Asia, no mention of what she'd been doing so basically doing nothing, possibly under the guise of finding herself/volunteering/holiday of a lifetime. Comes home and describes blocking traffic for a week as doing something useful.