Why are most families houses and lives in a mess???

iamwhoiam

Gunnar Shrilling Saint wrote: »

Actually a messy house is more likely to cause stress than a tidy house.

For you maybe . You can’t speak for anyone else .Odd really that you care so much how others choose to live

Cyrus

Thiago Cold Gazebo wrote: »

Wrinkle-free shirts can save a lot of hassle! A quick steam and they look great.

They really don’t

ceadaoin.

Thiago Cold Gazebo wrote: »

Wrinkle-free shirts can save a lot of hassle! A quick steam and they look great.

Not as good as nicely starched and pressed dry cleaned shirts though. I'd rather outsource that!

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iamwhoiam wrote: »

For you maybe . You can’t speak for anyone else .Odd really that you care so much how others choose to live

Wrong, there is incontrovertible evidence suggesting clutter causes or adds to stress. Anyone who is capable of tying their shoe laces knows this. I have yet to meet someone who would prefer to work, live or relax in a messy house than a tidy one.

Graces7

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Not as good as nicely starched and pressed dry cleaned shirts though. I'd rather outsource that!



Ironing socks and tea towels is just madness :eek:

My mother also hated ironing, but was to be seen ironing my ballet tights. Over conscientious because she hated the work? I soon took over that job and cut the load a lot.

I think I do have an iron somewhere but not used it for decades....

Raconteuse

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ironing socks and tea towels is just madness :eek:

Yeah my mother does it. I love neatness but not pointlessness like that!

NSAman

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ironing socks and tea towels is just madness :eek:

Socks madness, tea towels should always be ironed, like bed linen...

Next you'll say that underwear don't need ironing..;)

HappyAsLarE

Thiago Cold Gazebo wrote: »

I'd hope that the majority of men under 50 are not depending on their wives or girlfriends to iron their shirts.

We normally do one big cleaning & tidy-up on a weekend and that's it for the week.

Never understand this type of thinking. I depend on my wife to iron my clothes. I can’t do it and don’t want to learn. She depends on me to pay the mortgage, fix the boiler, hang up photos, will I keep going??

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HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Never understand this type of thinking. I depend on my wife to iron my clothes. I can’t do it and don’t want to learn. She depends on me to pay the mortgage, fix the boiler, hang up photos, will I keep going??

I have to agree. We always had a fair distribution of labour but on the basis of the best utilisation of skills. Mrs S irons, I cut the grass, Mrs S bakes, I hoover etc,

That said, she irons things I'd never consider needing it.

ceadaoin.

NSAman wrote: »

Socks madness, tea towels should always be ironed, like bed linen...

Next you'll say that underwear don't need ironing..;)

Can't say I've ever noticed that my tea towels look particularly creased . Or my underwear for that matter! Clearly I am a huge slattern

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HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Never understand this type of thinking. I depend on my wife to iron my clothes. I can’t do it and don’t want to learn. She depends on me to pay the mortgage, fix the boiler, hang up photos, will I keep going??

In our house she does do most of the ironing, but I can iron a shirt when I need to. She also does far more of the fixing boiler / hanging photos type stuff because I'm useless at that. I'm handy enough at lighting the fire, hoovering, and filling/emptying the dishwasher.

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ceadaoin. wrote: »

Can't say I've ever noticed that my tea towels look particularly creased . Or my underwear for that matter! Clearly I am a huge slattern

Marie Kondo will be back in a minute to tell you what an embarrassment you are.

NSAman

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Can't say I've ever noticed that my tea towels look particularly creased . Or my underwear for that matter! Clearly I am a huge slattern

Oh Gawd, those undies must have creases sooooo bad! especially if cotton boxers, your knackers must be red raw! .;)

Leg End Reject

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Can't say I've ever noticed that my tea towels look particularly creased . Or my underwear for that matter! Clearly I am a huge slattern

I'd stick the iron to my face before I'd iron underwear and towels.

Greentopia

I notice the difference in peoples houses here too. Both inside their homes and outside. A lot of mess and lack of order. Obviously not everyone but many.
Yes I know both usually work, but then get a cleaner in once a week if you can't manage the time to keep a clean home?

My own Mum was extremely house proud, neat and tidy and so am I. Not that I have any choice in the matter now being with a German. :pac:
but really, they're all busy as hell too with usually both parents working and yet their homes are immaculate-3 hours per day is the average for cleaning there I once read. If they can do it why not here? not saying we should spend that much time but I do think more time and effort is clearly needed.

Irish parents buy far more presents for their kids than in other countries. I mean FAR more. A substitute for quality time with them clearly. More Chinese made crap doesn't make children happy. Time spent with their parents is what's needed and what they will remember when they're older.

Greentopia

Javion Rough Llama wrote: »

I have to agree. We always had a fair distribution of labour but on the basis of the best utilisation of skills. Mrs S irons, I cut the grass, Mrs S bakes, I hoover etc,

That said, she irons things I'd never consider needing it.

But skills can be learned. My partner when I lived with him I saw can cook and bake better than I can, washes and irons all his own clothes, can clean better than anyone I've ever seen-the kitchen is immaculate after he cooks, vacuums, can sew anything on a machine including clothes and bags, can knit, has made furniture including all the beds and sofa from scratch including making the cushions...all learned from a young age.

He was raised in a socialist country where boys learned all those skills and he's clever and picks things up fast, but everyone should be able to be self reliant and independent and have those skills to be able to look after themselves, male or female.

Junkyard Tom

When I were a lad we got a punch in the mouth for breakfast and a kick up the hole for dinner.

cj maxx

Greentopia wrote: »

But skills can be learned. My partner when I lived with him I saw can cook and bake better than I can, washes and irons all his own clothes, can clean better than anyone I've ever seen-the kitchen is immaculate after he cooks, vacuums, can sew anything on a machine including clothes and bags, can knit, has made furniture including all the beds and sofa from scratch including making the cushions...all learned from a young age.

He was raised in a socialist country where boys learned all those skills and he's clever and picks things up fast, but everyone should be able to be self reliant and independent and have those skills to be able to look after themselves, male or female.

I fvcking hate him already . Is the best lover ??

Greentopia

cjmc wrote: »

I fvcking hate him already . Is the best lover ??

That's been...interesting. Strange at times but interesting very different to other partners I've had. Their Freikörperkulture i.e. acceptance of nudity makes him very relaxed in that department. No body hangups. He's lovely though and I'm very lucky.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Greentopia wrote: »

I notice the difference in peoples houses here too. Both inside their homes and outside. A lot of mess and lack of order. Obviously not everyone but many.
Yes I know both usually work, but then get a cleaner in once a week if you can't manage the time to keep a clean home?

My own Mum was extremely house proud, neat and tidy and so am I. Not that I have any choice in the matter now being with a German. :pac:
but really, they're all busy as hell too with usually both parents working and yet their homes are immaculate-3 hours per day is the average for cleaning there I once read. If they can do it why not here? not saying we should spend that much time but I do think more time and effort is clearly needed.

Irish parents buy far more presents for their kids than in other countries. I mean FAR more. A substitute for quality time with them clearly. More Chinese made crap doesn't make children happy. Time spent with their parents is what's needed and what they will remember when they're older.

If both parents are working full-time, the bolded bits are difficult to reconcile. Maybe not impossible but life is truly too short for martyrdom and drudgery in order to satisfy curtain-twitchers who don’t care about you. And some people are far too afraid of germs.

Mtmt

[QUOTE=Mongfinder General;However, social media is a huge drain on time. She spends ****ing hours on it and then wonders why sh!t doesn’t get done.[/QUOTE] I

I see YOU are now posting on social media while things are not getting done. ..

Graces7

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Can't say I've ever noticed that my tea towels look particularly creased . Or my underwear for that matter! Clearly I am a huge slattern

Maybe depends too on if you use a dryer? I do not, and smooth eg sheets, pillowcases etc out while they are still damp. Do not use tea towels anyways.

Graces7

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

If both parents are working full-time, the bolded bits are difficult to reconcile. Maybe not impossible but life is truly too short for martyrdom and drudgery in order to satisfy curtain-twitchers who don’t care about you. And some people are far too afraid of germs.

:eek: You see simple housework as that? Unbelievable....Never heard the like.. Most of us keep clean and tidy to please ourselves

Captain Slow IRL

Tickers, bravo at the excellent trolling. You've done some excellent work in these 18 pages in getting people up in arms, I hope one day to be like you.

If you are serious, just wait until you have kids and you'll understand then.

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Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Tickers, bravo at the excellent trolling. You've done some excellent work in these 18 pages in getting people up in arms, I hope one day to be like you.

If you are serious, just wait until you have kids and you'll understand then.

Appears that telling the truth and cutting too close to the bone is now considered trolling.

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Greentopia wrote: »

I notice the difference in peoples houses here too. Both inside their homes and outside. A lot of mess and lack of order. Obviously not everyone but many.
Yes I know both usually work, but then get a cleaner in once a week if you can't manage the time to keep a clean home?

My own Mum was extremely house proud, neat and tidy and so am I. Not that I have any choice in the matter now being with a German. :pac:
but really, they're all busy as hell too with usually both parents working and yet their homes are immaculate-3 hours per day is the average for cleaning there I once read. If they can do it why not here? not saying we should spend that much time but I do think more time and effort is clearly needed.

Irish parents buy far more presents for their kids than in other countries. I mean FAR more. A substitute for quality time with them clearly. More Chinese made crap doesn't make children happy. Time spent with their parents is what's needed and what they will remember when they're older.

Excuse me but I’ve been to a number of European including German households, in Ireland, and they’re guilty of the same thing only in their cases the experience was worse because they ask you to remove your shoes before entering their scruffy houses.

screamer

Who actually cares...... live your life as you wish, keep your house as you wish. You only get one life, spend your time wisely, no matter what you chose to do or not do in the time you have on this planet.

Cantona's Collars

I've been in homes which are properly messy,not the kids toys messy. These are,get a skip and 200 litres of bleach dirty
One person actually couldn't find their TV cos the sitting room was so untidy. It was under a pile of clothes. Another had cat faeces around the floor and they threw their bin bags out the window into the front garden.
A few toys etc are nothing compared to that level of dirt.

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screamer wrote: »

Who actually cares...... live your life as you wish, keep your house as you wish. You only get one life, spend your time wisely, no matter what you chose to do or not do in the time you have on this planet.

Cleaning your home is generally understood to be time well spent.

anewme

GwaneTIme wrote: »

Because women are lazy nowadays? I see that on my sister. I have to get back from home and clean the house because she's sitting all day on the phone and scroll social media platforms

I must have missed the memo where women are responsible for house cleaning.