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President Donald Trump - Formal Impeachment Inquiry Announced

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    #3902
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Great opening so far by Trumps lawyers. The adults have finally entered the room.

    There should be an investigation into the Democrat House managers and if any of them are lawyers they should be disbarred.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3903
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Great opening so far by Trumps lawyers. The adults have finally entered the room.

    I counted half dozen lies so far?

    Couple of outlets live fact checking it.


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    #3904
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,278 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Great opening so far by Trumps lawyers. The adults have finally entered the room.

    There should be an investigation into the Democrat House managers and if any of them are lawyers they should be disbarred.

    You really haven't a deep (or shallow) comprehension of the workings of these proceedings have?

    Based on what you've said here, or previous posts


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    #3905
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    To be fair to Jay Sekulow he has done "a lot" for charities.

    How to Get Rich Suing For Jesus

    :pac:


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    #3906
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Have they compared Trump to Jesus yet?


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    #3907
    notobtuse
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    Boggles wrote: »
    I counted half dozen lies so far?

    Couple of outlets live fact checking it.

    I'm curious... did those outlets you speak of live fact check the House Democrat managers fantacies?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3908
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    duploelabs wrote: »
    You really haven't a deep (or shallow) comprehension of the workings of these proceedings have?

    Based on what you've said here, or previous posts

    I know the democtat's outright lies and contrived misleading statements given as their 'case' should be investigated.

    The democrats opened the door to Hunter Biden's actions in the matter in their prostituon prosecution. If he's not called as a witness the Senate now has reason to investigate him to prove the validity of their statements.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3909
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Have they compared Trump to Jesus yet?

    Not yet I don't think.

    But the Republican Party are about to make Trump a King.

    It is beyond bizarre.


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    #3910
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I'm curious... did those outlets you speak of live fact check the House Democrat managers fantacies?

    Lies are lies son, facts are facts.


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    #3911
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I know the democtat's outright lies and contrived misleading statements given as their 'case' should be investigated.

    The democrats opened the door to Hunter Biden's actions in the matter in their prostituon prosecution. If he's not called as a witness the Senate now has reason to investigate him to prove the validity of their statements.

    Should Trump testify?


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    #3912
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Boggles wrote: »
    Not yet I don't think.

    But the Republican Party are about to make Trump a King.

    It is beyond bizarre.

    He’ll eventually take them all down with him.


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    #3913
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    Lies are lies son, facts are facts.

    I take it from your answer they didn't.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3914
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Should Trump testify?

    Why should he... giving ligitamcy to a purely political witch hunt our Founding Fathers warned of.

    He's already won!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3915
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Cody montana wrote: »
    He’ll eventually take them all down with him.

    "Head on a Pike"

    Jesus could it be any clearer to them.


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    #3916
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Why should he... giving ligitamcy to a purely political witch hunt our Founding Fathers warned of.

    He's already won!

    So hunter Biden, who had nothing to do with this, should testify.
    But Trump, who the trial is about, shouldn’t testify.
    Wonderful logic.

    *I find it very easy when you use their own words again them*


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    #3917
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Cody montana wrote: »
    So hunter Biden, who had nothing to do with this, should testify.
    But Trump, who the trial is about, shouldn’t testify.
    Wonderful logic.

    *I find it very easy when you use their own words again them*

    It's quite simple. Having Hunter Biden testify would undoubtedly indicate Biden (both him and his father) quid pro quo corruption which would prove Trump's actions were both warranted and a duty of his office.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3918
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    It's quite simple. Having Hunter Biden testify would undoubtedly indicate Biden (both him and his father) quid pro quo corruption which would prove Trump's actions were both warranted and a duty of his office.

    The European Union, the IMF and several American allies were all in on it.

    :pac::pac::pac:

    Again for reasons of reality.

    Trump didn't want an investigation, he wanted an announcement of an investigation.


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    #3919
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    The European Union, the IMF and several American allies were all in on it.

    :pac::pac::pac:

    Great rebuttal... Right out of the Adam Shiff playbook.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3920
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Great rebuttal... Right out of the Adam Shiff playbook.

    American foreign policy, World Economic Entities, the EU, multiple US Allies.

    Versus

    Ruddy and some goons running around the Ukraine.

    :D

    Arise King Trump!


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    #3921
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    notobtuse wrote: »
    It's quite simple. Having Hunter Biden testify would undoubtedly indicate Biden (both him and his father) quid pro quo corruption which would prove Trump's actions were both warranted and a duty of his office.

    What do you think the Bidens have to say on trumps abuse of power and obstruction of Congress?
    Also why would Hunter Biden indicate Joe Bidens “Quid pro quo”, seeing as he said it publicly?


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    #3922
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    Sure, let Biden testify, provided Trump does the same and doesn't run chicken


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    #3923
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »

    Arise King Trump!

    More like Life Of Brian. :rolleyes:;)

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3924
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    Sure, let Biden testify, provided Trump does the same and doesn't run chicken

    The Republican Party by Trumps blunt order will not let anyone testify.

    They will have taken Impeachment out of the constitution.

    Again, That is the Republican Party.

    Let that sink in for a minute.


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    #3925
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    And they are wrapping up early.

    People can only take so much fiction, I suppose.


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    #3926
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    And they are wrapping up early.

    People can only take so much fiction, I suppose.

    Facts are facts, son.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3927
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Facts are facts, son.

    They sure are, enjoy your Monarchy going forward.


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    #3928
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,695 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Not a single piece of exculpatory evidence presented by the WH defence.

    They have slung mud at the Dem's, called out the motivation for the impeachment but not at any point have they presented any rebuttal or refutation of the actual actions undertaken or charges laid.

    The fact that Parnas' and the continuing drip of detail since has completely undermined Trump's stated position only further undermines the defence.
    Not that any actual defence has taken place or even been floated yet, other than Trump can do what he pleases...


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    #3929
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,695 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Alternative Facts are facts, son.

    FYP


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    #3930
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    They sure are, enjoy your Monarchy going forward.

    I'm sure several senators are thanking Trumps lawyers so they can get back to the campaign trail. Seems odd though they would continue in their campaign efforts since they're mere subjects in a monarchy, eh?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #3931
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I'm sure several senators are thanking Trumps lawyers so they can get back to the campaign trail. Seems odd though they would continue in their campaign efforts since they're mere subjects in a monarchy, eh?

    Who says King Trump will abdicate the throne? ;)

    Again the Republican Party are about to remove Impeachment from the constitution going forward.

    Let that sink in.


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