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President Donald Trump - Formal Impeachment Inquiry Announced

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    I see this kind of bravado everyday in what I do, guys claiming they have done the most amazing trades and made so much money and dont have any losers etc etc, but they are usually talking out of the arse

    But anyway I think this thread is getting a bit side tracked best to get back to the topic of the thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    kilns wrote: »
    15 months out from the election Trump was 12/1, even during the Republican primaries.
    If you think traders listen to media hype than I am sure Paddy Power are glad you dont trade for them :pac:

    From memory was 150/1, then held at 25/1 for ages (many months)
    I'm very, very happy with PP's current range of pol-traders, lol!

    They were fairly kind the other week also, offering FF:1.73
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112262054&postcount=11
    Today you'll get a 'in the bag' price of 1.07 for FF (Most Seats).


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,007 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Can you not read.

    Yes Perfectly, thank you.

    ebbsy wrote: »
    Where did I say I backed him twice.

    Right here.
    ebbsy wrote: »
    I got him at 6/1 a few days before the election.
    ebbsy wrote:
    I had him at 3/1 I see his odds are now half that with PP

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101084573&postcount=1422

    6/1 a few days before and 3/1 months before.

    2 bets.

    So in your own time screen shot of winnings?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    From memory was 150/1, then held at 25/1 for ages (many months)
    I'm very, very happy with PP's current range of pol-traders, lol!

    They were fairly kind the other week also, offering FF:1.73
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112262054&postcount=11
    Today you'll get a 'in the bag' price of 1.07 for FF (Most Seats).

    chart-donald-trumps-2016-election-odds-2015-8?r=US&IR=T

    This was during the primaries

    There is not a chance in hell Paddy Power let him go back out to 25/1 in a 2 horse race


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The only point making here is this 'impeachment' = improvement of DT's chances of winning, 'dramtically'.

    Many recent 'polls' are also favourable (if you pay attention to such):
    something like 3/4 of Americans reckon they're 'better off' than last year.
    Well something like that (heard it on the TV box), but generally positive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    kilns wrote: »
    This was during the primaries
    There is not a chance in hell Paddy Power let him go back out to 25/1 in a 2 horse race


    Likely so.

    Never said, or indicated it was for the final two candidates.
    Held at 25/1 for what seemed like ages during event the run up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Likely so.

    Never said, or indicated it was for the final two candidates.
    Held at 25/1 for what seemed like ages during event the run up.

    he went from 30/1 to 18/1 in the space of 5 days

    But who cares any this is not part of this thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    kilns wrote: »
    Officially from Paddy Power on 13 Nov 2010 he was 150/1
    18 June 2015 was 50/1
    23 July 2015 was 30/1
    28 July 2015 was 18/1
    There is not a chance in hell Paddy Power let him go back out to 25/1 in a 2 horse race

    Never said it was in respect of the final two market:
    August 2015, 25/1 (PP/BF):
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057476338
    Plenty of laughs in that thread, ah the memories and the banter!

    How it all compares to today's post-impeachment aquittal is massive.
    Thus: Impeachment attempt = great success.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yes Perfectly, thank you.




    Right here.





    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101084573&postcount=1422

    6/1 a few days before and 3/1 months before.

    2 bets.

    So in your own time screen shot of winnings?



    There is no way you did those 23k posts by yourself.

    Somebody must have wrote them for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Winning_Stroke


    Boggles wrote: »
    Because 2015 his odds were far longer than 14/1

    Ah the gambling expert himself!

    I hate to show you up (again) but take a gander for yourself, 18/1 a bit before I went in - https://www.businessinsider.com/chart-donald-trumps-2016-election-odds-2015-8?r=US&IR=T


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Winning_Stroke


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Well then why are the 'odds' touted correct this time round?

    What? No idea what you're on about. I've been pointing out the deliberate muddying of the water on odds by certain parties here For The Greater Good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Never said it was in respect of the final two market:
    August 2015, 25/1 (PP/BF):
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057476338
    Plenty of laughs in that thread, ah the memories and the banter!

    How it all compares to today's post-impeachment aquittal is massive.
    Thus: Impeachment attempt = great success.

    ha ha good luck to you, it seems you are a gambling genius :rolleyes:

    Now back to the thread topic


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,007 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ebbsy wrote: »
    There is no way you did those 23k posts by yourself.

    Somebody must have wrote them for you.

    I did and I own everyone of them.

    Time to own yours.

    So how many times did you bet on the Donald? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Boggles wrote: »
    I did and I own everyone of them.

    Time to own yours.

    So how many times did you bet on the Donald? :D


    Looks like there was no brains to pass down...…...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    kilns wrote: »
    ha ha good luck to you, it seems you are a gambling genius :rolleyes:
    Now back to the thread topic
    Yes, that old thread was some laugh, plenty of drama!

    Anyway yes, agree with you: back on topic.

    Q. Has Trump been aquitted of Impeachment yet?
    Q ...and is he likely to win again now due to this fiasco?

    Seems so for both, ah well.
    Bye (for now).


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    nthclare wrote: »
    But being impeached won't impair him, to him it's just a bloody nose.

    That's why his ability to get up and keep going is so impressive.

    I my self am a horticulturist and work with a lot of plants and I absolutely cannot stand clearing brambles and nettles, cannot stand the look of them. They're prickly and they graze you they sting they're not attractive to look at.

    But nettle tea has such healthy attributes and it's a great fertiliser, take brambles and you can make blackberry jam from them, make creels and baskets out of them they're very flexible and they're great pollinators, so are nettles butterflies love them.

    I think Trump can be a loose cannon and be flamboyant and he can sting now and again.

    But like a bramble or rose you prune it and trample it, hate it curse it.
    It doesn't matter it'll still flourish.
    Look at all the dumb people who's lives and hours minutes and seconds are spent obsessing with the Don and he couldn't give two fecks what they think.

    Give him a lot of **** and he just grows and grows, and the haters, negative debaters and craturs just get angrier, stressed and messed up.

    If you're able to look at the world organically, technically and factually all in one variable then its easier to accept the good with the bad.

    Thats an admirable way to look at Trump, he's able to rise above all that sh1t and keep his roots intact in the **** and come out flowering and smelling of roses.

    If I discovered a new rose or flower I'd call it the Don....

    Food for thought
    But the Democratic RoundUp team will keep trying to eradicate Trump with their herbicidal cancer inducing politics.

    After the impeachment vote Pelosi said that Trump investigations will go on. And Nadler said it’s more than likely the Ukraine probe will go on, and his committee is also investigating Trump-Russia election conspiracy. Russia, Russia, Russia all over again? Democrats, knowing how weak their presidential candidates are, refuse to accept the results of Trump’s acquittal and continue their gross abuse of constitutional power, which is simplly a crime against the public trust and a waste of taxpayer dollars. Wash, rinse and repeat... watch for a slew of lies by Shifty Schiff to democratic handmaiden reporters in the coming weeks.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,007 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's nearly 2 O'Clock.

    Time for our East Coast Correspondent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    It's nearly 2 O'Clock.

    Time for our East Coast Correspondent.
    Isn't it past your bedtime?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Winning_Stroke


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Isn't it past your bedtime?

    Shush, the lads will be getting onto Basic Probability in double maths before the end of the day. Let them study


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    alastair wrote: »
    He’s had a string of business failures
    He’s banned from ever being on the board of a charity again after operating an illegal scam charity
    He’s had to settle class action claims for his racketeering Trump University, and shut up shop
    He’s in hock to Russian lenders
    He’s failed miserably in every marriage he’s had
    He was routed in the Midterm elections
    He’s been impeached
    He has historically poor approval ratings
    He’s obsessively thin-skinned with regard to his record vs Obama.

    He’s far from flourishing.

    He's a very wealthy man and became the president of the United States !??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    He's a very wealthy man and became the president of the United States !??

    He was bankrupt 6 times, won’t release his taxes and got impeached.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Yes, that old thread was some laugh, plenty of drama!

    Anyway yes, agree with you: back on topic.

    Q. Has Trump been aquitted of Impeachment yet?
    Q ...and is he likely to win again now due to this fiasco?

    Seems so for both, ah well.
    Bye (for now).

    He has been acquitted but no exonerated which will be a big part of the election strategy I am sure coming up and Bolton could still be a joker in the pack.

    I dont think this "fiasco" has either weakened or strengthened his case for winning or losing

    Remember it is only the middle 3rd of the electorate Dems and Repubs need to target, as there is a group who sees him as a God and can do no wrong and another group that see him as the devil and is evil.

    The middle 3rd will decide it and are less partisan. The economy on the face of it is his Trump card for want of a better word. He needs that to keep going until Nov, however, the economy has alot of cracks underneath and its up to Democrats to get that message across to the middle 3rd. Whether they care or not thats another question.

    Whoever wins in 2020 is going face a huge economic meltdown before the election in 2024, so if a young Dem wins the 2020 election they will find it hard to get a second term as they will have to take some very hard decisions to clean the mess up which wont be popular. If Trump wins he wont care as he will be gone anyway in 2024 but the Republicans may suffer but again he doesnt care. The only reason he will care will be if it is Ivanka or god forbid Don Jnr on the ticket.

    In any case my feeling is winning in 2020 is a poison chalice due to the economic decisions that have been made in the last 3 years. America may be in a better place day to day economically and on the stock markets charts but scratch the surface and a crisis like 2008 or even bigger is waiting


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    He was bankrupt 6 times, won’t release his taxes and got impeached.

    Lots of business men do thats the nature of big business, big risk, big reward, he seems to be doing well at the moment, He's still the president though ... I would say a rich man who is the president of the USA is "flourishing", would you not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,007 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Lots of business men do thats the nature of big business, big risk, big reward, he seems to be doing well at the moment, He's still the president though ... I would say a rich man who is the president of the USA is "flourishing", would you not?

    Apparently the Impeachment has hit him hard personally.

    That's another reason Nancy prays for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    He's a very wealthy man and became the president of the United States !??

    Is he though? You can only take his word for it.

    He may be asset rich but what if he has borrowed against all his properties, which is the common consensus and his net worth is definitely not in the billions perhaps not even in the hundreds of millions.

    If you analyse the guy I would not be surprised as not one company in America would hire him as their CEO. But hey the American people did I guess


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Lots of business men do thats the nature of big business, big risk, big reward, he seems to be doing well at the moment, He's still the president though ... I would say a rich man who is the president of the USA is "flourishing", would you not?

    Nobody can say he is rich or not if nobody knows. You cant just take his word for it for obvious reasons


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Lots of business men do thats the nature of big business, big risk, big reward, he seems to be doing well at the moment, He's still the president though ... I would say a rich man who is the president of the USA is "flourishing", would you not?

    Explain how a successful business man can bankrupt two casinos!

    Just to remind you, casinos are places dumb people go to and basically throw their money at the owner, on the odd occasion he throws something back, the house never loses...unless the house is owned by Trump it seems!

    Only an absolute idiot could bankrupt and lose money owning a casino!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    notobtuse wrote: »
    But the Democratic RoundUp team will keep trying to eradicate Trump with their herbicidal cancer inducing politics.

    After the impeachment vote Pelosi said that Trump investigations will go on. And Nadler said it’s more than likely the Ukraine probe will go on, and his committee is also investigating Trump-Russia election conspiracy. Russia, Russia, Russia all over again? Democrats, knowing how weak their presidential candidates are, refuse to accept the results of Trump’s acquittal and continue their gross abuse of constitutional power, which is simplly a crime against the public trust and a waste of taxpayer dollars. Wash, rinse and repeat... watch for a slew of lies by Shifty Schiff to democratic handmaiden reporters in the coming weeks.

    Yes I hear you about the roundup, its a systemic chemical and out to kill everything.

    Translocation is another thing that the Dems like to carry out.

    I haven't once yet seen the Dems or sjws detach from their emotive agenda's.

    In 2012 the Democrats teamed up with Monsanto if I remember rightly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    frag420 wrote: »
    Explain how a successful business man can bankrupt two casinos!

    Just to remind you, casinos are places dumb people go to and basically throw their money at the owner, on the odd occasion he throws something back, the house never loses...unless the house is owned by Trump it seems!

    Only an absolute idiot could bankrupt and lose money owning a casino!!

    He's making plenty of money charging the secret service 650bucks a room in Mar-a-Lago.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    He was bankrupt 6 times, won’t release his taxes and got impeached.

    Henry Ford went bankrupt before bouncing back. As did Walt Disney, HJ Heinz, Larry King, William Durant, Francis Ford Copolla, PT Barnum, Mick Fleetwood, Stan Lee, Abe Lincoln.

    Also, The Donald.


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