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Islam is right about Women

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    #302
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,592 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    All the "new" accounts signing up for this thread :rolleyes:


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    #303
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Zorya wrote: »
    Grouping God with santa and goblins, which people often do as a way of dismissing awe, presupposes God can only be apprehended as some kind of anthropomorphic being. It is a limiting way of envisioning or bracketing possibilities. Dare I say it is (ironically) parochial?


    What AWE ????


    Since you question my beliefs let me question yours.



    No one ever killed in the name of Santa
    Goblins were never reported for molesting kids like the catholic church.


    How any person can worship their invisible friend, and try convince others this God exists is to me mental illness.
    If that is not bad enough the very same so called God religious people believe in would be a vindictive, insecure, flawed god who is suppose to be all powerful, yet his track record and resume is atrocious.


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    #304
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


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    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #305
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Wibbs wrote: »
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    #306
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Well considering original post was just a wankfest for some 4chan members I think the quality of thread probably improved by the detour.


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    #307
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    No one ever killed in the name of Santa
    Goblins were never reported for molesting kids ...... - Justin Credible

    Im going to stop you there. Are we SURE either of these statements are 100% true?

    :D


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    #308
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Zorya wrote: »
    No one ever killed in the name of Santa
    Goblins were never reported for molesting kids ...... - Justin Credible

    Im going to stop you there. Are we SURE either of these statements are 100% true?

    :D




    well religious people can make blanket statements about the existence of an invisible man, and when asked for proof to back up these claims when the burden of proof lies with them , they try start a circular argument as there is no proof to back up said claims.


    So I can make blanket statements and declare them true, as its my belief, and we know how people are entitled to their beliefs.



    Except when it does not agree with others


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    #309
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Zorya wrote: »
    It IS a belief system. It requires faith in an unproven credo.

    Its not in fairness Z.
    Its the absence of a belief system.
    That said, there are those who could be described as zealous in their disbelief

    Do you call someone who doesnt believe in faires, and is of the opinion, they dont exist a afairyist?


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    #310
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Zorya wrote: »
    It IS a belief system. It requires faith in an unproven credo.

    Its not in fairness Z.
    Its the absence of a belief system.
    That said, there are those who could be described as zealous in their disbelief

    Do you call someone who doesnt believe in faires, and is of the opinion, they dont exist a afairyist?

    I will leave this til tomorrow R when Im not sleepy but I disagree. Which is cool, you can think one thing and I can think differently, tis grand. Plus nuance. Very unfashionable is nuance. (Plus dont get me started about fairies. Fairies, goblins, pixies, djinns, devas, elementals - huge presence in the anthropological record. I have never seen one. Do they DEFINITELY not exist? Maybe a Mongolian shaman might have something to tell me about that...As Socrates said wisely about everything, I don't know. )


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    #311
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    On second thoughts Roger my going further into why I find atheism to be a belief system would take this thread so far more off course that we are talking interplanetary-scale diversion. I explained my thoughts on the matter earlier, it will have to suffice. And we will have to accept disagreement. Over a pint some time in a parallel universe we can battle it out :)


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    #312
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Well considering original post was just a wankfest for some 4chan members I think the quality of thread probably improved by the detour.

    I think 4chan deserves it's wankfest. 4chan is amazing , they have this power to turn something mundane and create hysteria with it.

    That is brilliant. hats off to them.


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    #313
    Veritas Libertas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Veritas Libertas


    When the flyer "It's ok to be white" came out, immediately people were declared as racists.
    I.e.
    'White supremacist' signs declaring 'it's okay to be white' appear outside MPs' offices

    They just don't know how to attack the people behind this sign. The usual tactics of attacking the character and not the argument completely collapses here.

    This flyer is a work of genius.


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    #314
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Probably about the same shade of white as Jesus.

    Unlike you I don't have to guess. It is written in the holy writings of Islam.
    I said to Abu Tufail: Did you see Allah's Messenger? He said: Yes, he had a white handsome face.
    https://quranx.com/Hadith/Muslim/USC-MSA/Book-30/Hadith-5777/
    "Who amongst you is Muhammad?"...
    We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The man then addressed him, "O Son of `Abdul Muttalib."
    https://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/USC-MSA/Volume-1/Book-3/Hadith-63/


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    #315
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    If it's ok for Mohammed to be white then surely it's ok for us to be white too?


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    #316
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,592 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    biko wrote: »
    Unlike you I don't have to guess. It is written in the holy writings of Islam.

    https://quranx.com/Hadith/Muslim/USC-MSA/Book-30/Hadith-5777/


    https://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/USC-MSA/Volume-1/Book-3/Hadith-63/

    Yeah because the writing from any 2000 year old book (translated fùck knows how many times) are always accurate. If you believe everything that's written in that then you also believe everything written in the old testament too?


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    #317
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    biko wrote: »
    If it's ok for Mohammed to be white then surely it's ok for us to be white too?

    Its not ok to be white.


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    #318
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yeah because the writing from any 2000 year old book (translated fùck knows how many times) are always accurate. If you believe everything that's written in that then you also believe everything written in the old testament too?

    Actually it tends to be accurate in both books, they have copies and fragments of the Koran and bible from rhe earliest days of both.

    Remarkably consistent.


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    #319
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Yeah because the writing from any 2000 year old book (translated fùck knows how many times) are always accurate. If you believe everything that's written in that then you also believe everything written in the old testament too?
    Do you question the holy texts of Islam? Best not mention this to your Muslim friends.


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    #320
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,592 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    biko wrote: »
    Do you question the holy texts of Islam? Best not mention this to your Muslim friends.

    I question all religions and religious texts as i think they are all bullshìt and toxic.


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    #321
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I agree, they are.


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    #322
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    topper75 wrote: »
    Islam doesn't say anything weird about women at all. Those letterbox things that women from Islamic countries wear is just what happens to be on the catwalks in Kabul this season.
    And last season. And the season before that...:P

    I don't have much of a beef with Islam if practiced as a personal faith without imposition on others. I certainly don't have a beef with the rights of one entire half of my own species.

    However there are ludicrous incongruities in the thinking of a self-styled 'progressive' left movement that claims to be the champions of the 'downtrodden', well, downtrodden as they perceive them. That is the joke here.

    Just checking back in to see if it’s all the left’s fault - whatever “it” is. And I’m delighted to see that “it” is indeed the left’s fault.

    I’ve also no problem with religions practiced as personal religion. Trying to tell other people what to do because of your personal religion is bang out of order. The catholic’s have been beaten back into their box in Ireland. I suspect Muslims would try to impose their religion on others if given the chance. No time for that. Back in their box with them. Practice their religion to their hearts’ content from within their box.


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    #323
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Its not ok to be white.

    Correct.

    Its certainly not ok to be white


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    #324
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Correct.

    Its certainly not ok to be white

    Bol1ocks. I use my whiteness to my advantage regularly. Any time you rely on a bit of charm to get away with something, it helps to be the same ethnicity as the person you’re trying to charm. Works a treat in Ireland.


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    #325
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    I use my whiteness to my advantage regularly

    You need to stop doing that.

    Its not ok to be white.

    Stop your whiteness asap.


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    #326
    Veritas Libertas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Veritas Libertas


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    You need to stop doing that.

    Its not ok to be white.

    Stop your whiteness asap.

    Blackface immediately!.... wait...:confused:....


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    #327
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    You need to stop doing that.

    Its not ok to be white.

    Stop your whiteness asap.

    Works out well for me no matter how many people ironically say it’s not ok to be white.

    Has anyone in this thread said it’s not ok to be white, in earnest? Seems like a load of people whipping themselves into a frenzy about a boogeyman they know to be imaginary.


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    #328
    ErnestBorgnine
    Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Works out well for me no matter how many people ironically say it’s not ok to be white.

    Has anyone in this thread said it’s not ok to be white, in earnest? Seems like a load of people whipping themselves into a frenzy about a boogeyman they know to be imaginary.

    Boogeyperson


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    #329
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    ErnestBorgnine wrote: »
    Boogeyperson

    Cultural appropriation of a POCs dancing.
    Reported.

    You never here a white person say they're going to get down and boogey.


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    #330
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,385 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    ErnestBorgnine wrote: »
    Boogeyperson

    Lol. But yes, this is exactly what I’m talking about. In the absence of someone who actually thinks that way, they make it up to pretend it’s prevalent.


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    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Cultural appropriation of a POCs dancing.
    Reported.

    You never here a white person say they're going to get down and boogey.




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